WHAT IF I WANT TO USE THE 2014 VERSION OF A SPELL OR MAGIC ITEM?
If you wish to use the old version of a magic item or spell that has been replaced by its 2024 counterpart, you will need to create a homebrew copy of it and enable homebrew content on your character sheet. Then, you can add it to your character sheet.
This is probably the worst way DDB could've handled this. I'm having a hard enough time convincing my players to get on board with the 2024 ruleset at all - the only way I'm getting them onboard is with the understanding they're not forced to use the 2024 content. Except now if we're using DDB, they're being forced to use the 2024 spells and magic items unless I spend huge time home-brewing all the stuff that's already in my paid-for books back in. Which is time I don't have to spend.
Nonsense like this could be the straw that breaks the camels back, and they decide they just want to go back to their old physical books they already own, and we do it with pen and paper exclusively - at which point we cancel all our subscriptions.
Adding a blanket legacy tag would've been so much easier, and have preserved so much more goodwill. Everything we've bought and paid for should be easily accessible through the character builder, as its always been.
The proposed solution of making home-brewed copies is not only incredibly boring and time-consuming, but - in my personal situation - useless.
I'm in a campaign where I'm a player. I'm also the one who has bought the books that are being shared. This means that I'm the only one who can actually make the copies. Unfortunately, private copies are accessible to the other players only if the DM for the campaign has made them. And you can't make the copies public because they are identical to official material.
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Oh, I’m absolutely cancelling my subscription right this second then and pulling all my characters off the platform. I use ddb for convenience, and as soon as that convenience goes away, I leave.
If I purchased the 2014 edition of the rules, then I should have access to the 2014 edition of the rules in my sheets. Full stop. I was mildly interested in the new rules but you’ve made me completely change my mind on this one.
Seriously, **** y’all. Thanks for ruining the ecosystem of my games with this one.
Remember that other VTT's like Roll 20 and Foundry will not be editing your old information. Personally I have digital copies of all the 5e books as well as many of the books. There are also many open source 5E sites with all of the information you need for free. This just proves they want to force people to upgrade to 6e. Time to stop the lies from them and call it as it is.
Why are you even touching our old character sheets? Just mark them as legacy and move on. This is going to ruin campaigns that don't want to update but ate forced too because half the character sheet has changed.
Let us save character sheets as legacy sheets and just leave them alone.
This ******* sucks, guys. You're altering content we paid for and expected to be able to keep using to comply with a new ruleset many of us did not want.
Yeah, my DM has just announced that our campaign will be leaving DDB because of this. Changes to new characters is one thing, but forcing changes on existing characters is not useful. If I own the old rules, I want to apply those rules to my sheet. And if I can't filter out homebrew because I've had to duplicate all of the spells and magic items, the site loses even more utility for me.
I am a DM of 3 campaigns using 2014 rules that are very important to the foundations of the homebrewed world, and a player in another world that is the same. I've canceled my subscription for this exact same reason, there is no more use for this site and I've wasted every penny that I've spent because of this forced update, and am deleting my account once I copy down my dozens(!!!!!!!) of character sheets that are about to become unusable. Time to go back to pen and paper.
Thanks for the update! When this goes live I'll be able to cancel my Master Tier Subscription I've had for years, because the whole reason I paid all this money for access to this content was to make it easier for my players to build and track characters in 5e.
Thanks for the update! When this goes live I'll be able to cancel my Master Tier Subscription I've had for years, because the whole reason I paid all this money for access to this content was to make it easier for my players to build and track characters in 5e.
Now your site is worthless for that.
Yeah, I'm thinking of downgrading to hero tier at the very least, if not cancelling my subscription. Will see after the 2024 material launches as to which path I will take.
Thanks for the update! When this goes live I'll be able to cancel my Master Tier Subscription I've had for years, because the whole reason I paid all this money for access to this content was to make it easier for my players to build and track characters in 5e.
Now your site is worthless for that.
Why wait? Cancel your auto-renew now so they know how badly they've ****ed this up because that's what wotc/hasbro will notice. You'll still have access for the time you've already paid for but they'll see the flood of cancelled auto subscriptions.
I don't see why, like so many others have said here, a switch can't be made to switch between the 2014 and 2024 rules for those who aren't ready to switch over yet. I am a player in a long standing campaign and share my content via my master tier with the other players and DM. Most of the players in the campaign are new players who are still learning the 2014 rules, and having to completely start over may put them off completely from the game. If the code exists for all of the old spells, they can easily keep them somewhere so the burden of rewriting it as homebrew is not put on us as players and DMs. This may make my players and I transfer to another platform to finish our campaign and for any future games.
Thanks for the update! When this goes live I'll be able to cancel my Master Tier Subscription I've had for years, because the whole reason I paid all this money for access to this content was to make it easier for my players to build and track characters in 5e.
Now your site is worthless for that.
Why wait? Cancel your auto-renew now so they know how badly they've ****ed this up because that's what wotc/hasbro will notice. You'll still have access for the time you've already paid for but they'll see the flood of cancelled auto subscriptions.
Is it possible to reinstate your subscription if you cancel it?
So what happens with the existing character sheets does that just get converted to the new ones? I want to keep my character sheets as is especially my late mothers characters that we worked on.
Probably the people who paid for it in the first place? I for one don't appreciate this unilateral decision to prevent paying customers from accessing the content they paid for and then, presumably, charging them again just to use a newer version of those spells.
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This is probably the worst way DDB could've handled this. I'm having a hard enough time convincing my players to get on board with the 2024 ruleset at all - the only way I'm getting them onboard is with the understanding they're not forced to use the 2024 content. Except now if we're using DDB, they're being forced to use the 2024 spells and magic items unless I spend huge time home-brewing all the stuff that's already in my paid-for books back in. Which is time I don't have to spend.
Nonsense like this could be the straw that breaks the camels back, and they decide they just want to go back to their old physical books they already own, and we do it with pen and paper exclusively - at which point we cancel all our subscriptions.
Adding a blanket legacy tag would've been so much easier, and have preserved so much more goodwill. Everything we've bought and paid for should be easily accessible through the character builder, as its always been.
The proposed solution of making home-brewed copies is not only incredibly boring and time-consuming, but - in my personal situation - useless.
I'm in a campaign where I'm a player. I'm also the one who has bought the books that are being shared. This means that I'm the only one who can actually make the copies. Unfortunately, private copies are accessible to the other players only if the DM for the campaign has made them. And you can't make the copies public because they are identical to official material.
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Oh, I’m absolutely cancelling my subscription right this second then and pulling all my characters off the platform. I use ddb for convenience, and as soon as that convenience goes away, I leave.
If I purchased the 2014 edition of the rules, then I should have access to the 2014 edition of the rules in my sheets. Full stop. I was mildly interested in the new rules but you’ve made me completely change my mind on this one.
Seriously, **** y’all. Thanks for ruining the ecosystem of my games with this one.
Remember that other VTT's like Roll 20 and Foundry will not be editing your old information. Personally I have digital copies of all the 5e books as well as many of the books. There are also many open source 5E sites with all of the information you need for free. This just proves they want to force people to upgrade to 6e. Time to stop the lies from them and call it as it is.
Why are you even touching our old character sheets? Just mark them as legacy and move on. This is going to ruin campaigns that don't want to update but ate forced too because half the character sheet has changed.
Let us save character sheets as legacy sheets and just leave them alone.
This ******* sucks, guys. You're altering content we paid for and expected to be able to keep using to comply with a new ruleset many of us did not want.
Enigmagtic, Entertaining, Informative, Lobsterly.
I am a DM of 3 campaigns using 2014 rules that are very important to the foundations of the homebrewed world, and a player in another world that is the same. I've canceled my subscription for this exact same reason, there is no more use for this site and I've wasted every penny that I've spent because of this forced update, and am deleting my account once I copy down my dozens(!!!!!!!) of character sheets that are about to become unusable. Time to go back to pen and paper.
All I can say is, if they wanted feedback, they sure as heck are getting it!
Thanks for the update! When this goes live I'll be able to cancel my Master Tier Subscription I've had for years, because the whole reason I paid all this money for access to this content was to make it easier for my players to build and track characters in 5e.
Now your site is worthless for that.
Yeah, I'm thinking of downgrading to hero tier at the very least, if not cancelling my subscription. Will see after the 2024 material launches as to which path I will take.
Why wait? Cancel your auto-renew now so they know how badly they've ****ed this up because that's what wotc/hasbro will notice. You'll still have access for the time you've already paid for but they'll see the flood of cancelled auto subscriptions.
Yeah! I DM two ongoing campaigns and play in a third, all using 2014 rules with no desire or intent to change. This is stupid.
Enigmagtic, Entertaining, Informative, Lobsterly.
Yeah, but if they don't make it super inconvenient for us we'll be less likely to buy the new books.
I also would like to voice my displeasure after four years of using this site. I do think the solution that TherealCarian is the more common sense route. DDB I beg you to do this. I’m in the middle of two campaigns (one of which I am running) and the changes that you are forcing will mess up EVERYTHING. I’ve put a lot of money into this site on master tier and I do not appreciate the bait and switch. I do not want to leave but if this screws up my campaigns I will and my whole group will likely follow.
Please consider TherealCarian‘s idea.
I don't see why, like so many others have said here, a switch can't be made to switch between the 2014 and 2024 rules for those who aren't ready to switch over yet. I am a player in a long standing campaign and share my content via my master tier with the other players and DM. Most of the players in the campaign are new players who are still learning the 2014 rules, and having to completely start over may put them off completely from the game. If the code exists for all of the old spells, they can easily keep them somewhere so the burden of rewriting it as homebrew is not put on us as players and DMs. This may make my players and I transfer to another platform to finish our campaign and for any future games.
Is it possible to reinstate your subscription if you cancel it?
Do even though I was planning on not buying or using any of the 2024 content it's still replacing my 2014 content?
Pretty much. I'd suggest reading through the current changelog for details as to what they are planning to change on the website.
So what happens with the existing character sheets does that just get converted to the new ones? I want to keep my character sheets as is especially my late mothers characters that we worked on.
Probably the people who paid for it in the first place? I for one don't appreciate this unilateral decision to prevent paying customers from accessing the content they paid for and then, presumably, charging them again just to use a newer version of those spells.