"We are not meant to be able to kill them. Think of it from their perspective. Would you want a creation you worked hard to create to turn and try to kill you?"
“Have you seen a god go mad, or decide that that nation shouldn’t be there”
"Well, that's their decision. When that happens, the other deities notice and try to fix it. It isn't something we should get caught up in."
"But it is something you get caught up in. The gods use mortals as tools, pawns to bring about their own ends."
"Not all of them. And many of them only use those who are willing. It's obvious I won't be able to convince you, though, so we should probably stop arguing."
"You won't convince me because I'm right. I've lived for thousand of years. I served the gods for millennia. Your naivete will end, one day."
“Tell me have you been trapped on an island where you can’t truly die for 727 years knowing that the gods are watching your torture”
"I haven't, actually. I don't die. I'm not mortal, and was never meant to be."
“I don’t think you understand I could and did starve, bleed out and die of thirst, I would just come back the next day”
*Wait, didn't you copy a bunch of things.*
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*He's not a demigod. He's as powerful as a demigod. There's a difference.*
*It seems about the same as the difference between a god and an Elder Evil. They aren't very similar in the interpretation I used for Eris.*
*That's like saying a demon lord is an angel because they have the same CR.*
*And that applies to my interpretation of Elder Evils.*
*It's not the same thing. It's more like saying a 20th level fighter is a pit fiend. There's no relation. Elder Evils are the antithesis of the gods, completely foreign from what the gods made the universe to be.*
*I don't understand how that's disagreeing with me. Elder Evils are completely different from gods.*
*They're the opposite of the gods, which actually means that they share many similarities.*
*Like challenge rating and having worshipers?*
*Cultist/warlocks, not worshippers.*
*See? Gods have worshipers/clerics.*
*So know demon lords and archfey are gods?*
*1. Mostly warlocks.
2. Possibly, if GOOs count.*
*Not all GOOs. Just Elder Evils.*
*Oh. I don't think Eris is specifically an Elder Evil.*
"We are not meant to be able to kill them. Think of it from their perspective. Would you want a creation you worked hard to create to turn and try to kill you?"
“Have you seen a god go mad, or decide that that nation shouldn’t be there”
"Well, that's their decision. When that happens, the other deities notice and try to fix it. It isn't something we should get caught up in."
"But it is something you get caught up in. The gods use mortals as tools, pawns to bring about their own ends."
"The lack of good morality is the source of evil." Faen sheathes his swords and folds his arms. "I believe that the gods, such as Yondolla, that stand for goodness and wellbeing are gods that will soon bring peace to these war ridden worlds."
"Peace through war. That is what they claim. But it's wrong. War leads to death, death leads to war, all in an endless cycle. The gods send their followers to war in search of power, if they are ambitious, or in search of peace, if they are foolish. The only way they have the peace they claim they wish for is through genocide."
"I think you should sit this adventure out friend. I might accidentally shoot you out of a pure ethical loop hole." Faen joked and held his friendly smile. The angel was going to be a problem, that was a given, but maybe he could use that to his advantage.
"Friend? Doubtful. Ally? For now. Though if you do attempt to hurt me, I assure you that I will not hold back."
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“I don’t think you understand I could and did starve, bleed out and die of thirst, I would just come back the next day”
*Wait, didn't you copy a bunch of things.*
( what things?)
*Grey, Groundhog Day (the movie), other things I don't remember right now.*
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“You would think there would be more demons then there are right now”
"More than infinity?" A faint smiles touches Calius' lips. "Perhaps."
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*They're the opposite of the gods, which actually means that they share many similarities.*
*Like challenge rating and having worshipers?*
*Cultist/warlocks, not worshippers.*
*See? Gods have worshipers/clerics.*
*So know demon lords and archfey are gods?*
*1. Mostly warlocks.
2. Possibly, if GOOs count.*
*Not all GOOs. Just Elder Evils.*
*Oh. I don't think Eris is specifically an Elder Evil.*
*Cthulu is, so I thought Eris was.*
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*They're the opposite of the gods, which actually means that they share many similarities.*
*Like challenge rating and having worshipers?*
*Cultist/warlocks, not worshippers.*
*See? Gods have worshipers/clerics.*
*So know demon lords and archfey are gods?*
*1. Mostly warlocks.
2. Possibly, if GOOs count.*
*Not all GOOs. Just Elder Evils.*
*Oh. I don't think Eris is specifically an Elder Evil.*
*Cthulu is, so I thought Eris was.*
*It depends. If Eris is a PC, then I guess it depends on what happens to her. I'll use the Hive as a reference. All Hive start as Thrall, basically commoners. Thrall can become stronger through the Sword Logic, killing and conquering and learning. So, eventually, if they live long enough they can become Hive Gods such as Oryx, Xivu, and Savathun, who are actual gods. However, there are Hive like Crota who are more similar to Calius in there power. Not godly, but godlike. If that makes sense. So I'd say it's a matter of whether or not Eris is Godly, or Godlike, get what I'm sayin?*
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The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that... "Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent* "Eliksni must rise...yes?" _________ When it comes to pronouns I preferVariks-Senpai(But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
“You would think there would be more demons then there are right now”
"More than infinity?" A faint smiles touches Calius' lips. "Perhaps."
“I mean attacking us a patrol or scouting party heck random imps we haven’t seen any of that and that worries me. They could be setting up an ambush”
"Apparently, you haven't learned much in your supposed 727 years. We're fighting devils, not demons. Quite different."
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“You would think there would be more demons then there are right now”
"More than infinity?" A faint smiles touches Calius' lips. "Perhaps."
“I mean attacking us a patrol or scouting party heck random imps we haven’t seen any of that and that worries me. They could be setting up an ambush”
"Apparently, you haven't learned much in your supposed 727 years. We're fighting devils, not demons. Quite different."
“Devils are organized demons aren’t”
"More or less." Faen agreed, though, there was a distinct difference.
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The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that... "Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent* "Eliksni must rise...yes?" _________ When it comes to pronouns I preferVariks-Senpai(But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
“You would think there would be more demons then there are right now”
"More than infinity?" A faint smiles touches Calius' lips. "Perhaps."
“I mean attacking us a patrol or scouting party heck random imps we haven’t seen any of that and that worries me. They could be setting up an ambush”
"Apparently, you haven't learned much in your supposed 727 years. We're fighting devils, not demons. Quite different."
“Devils are organized demons aren’tl”
Calius sighs. "No, you haven't learned much at all. Devils and demons are fundamentally different. Devils are the embodiment of tyranny and duplicity, whereas demons are the manifestations of greed and selfishness."
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*Oh. I don't think Eris is specifically an Elder Evil.*
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
( what things?)
Mostly nocturnal
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"Friend? Doubtful. Ally? For now. Though if you do attempt to hurt me, I assure you that I will not hold back."
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*Grey, Groundhog Day (the movie), other things I don't remember right now.*
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"More than infinity?" A faint smiles touches Calius' lips. "Perhaps."
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*Kind of Eris(She went through a suicide phase once).*
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
(If I copy from everything then it is something new.also it was 727 days as far as he knows)
Mostly nocturnal
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*Not the way I've played her. I think Azathoth would be, but not Eris.*
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
“I mean attacking us a patrol or scouting party heck random imps we haven’t seen any of that and that worries me. They could be setting up an ambush”
Mostly nocturnal
help build a world here
*Imps are devils, not demons.*
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
*It depends. If Eris is a PC, then I guess it depends on what happens to her. I'll use the Hive as a reference. All Hive start as Thrall, basically commoners. Thrall can become stronger through the Sword Logic, killing and conquering and learning. So, eventually, if they live long enough they can become Hive Gods such as Oryx, Xivu, and Savathun, who are actual gods. However, there are Hive like Crota who are more similar to Calius in there power. Not godly, but godlike. If that makes sense. So I'd say it's a matter of whether or not Eris is Godly, or Godlike, get what I'm sayin?*
The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that...
"Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent*
"Eliksni must rise...yes?"
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When it comes to pronouns I prefer Variks-Senpai (But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
"Apparently, you haven't learned much in your supposed 727 years. We're fighting devils, not demons. Quite different."
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(Devils in the Abyssal Tract)
Mostly nocturnal
help build a world here
“Devils are organized demons aren’t”
Mostly nocturnal
help build a world here
*I know. You said demons.*
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
"More or less." Faen agreed, though, there was a distinct difference.
The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that...
"Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent*
"Eliksni must rise...yes?"
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When it comes to pronouns I prefer Variks-Senpai (But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
(Fair)
Mostly nocturnal
help build a world here
Calius sighs. "No, you haven't learned much at all. Devils and demons are fundamentally different. Devils are the embodiment of tyranny and duplicity, whereas demons are the manifestations of greed and selfishness."
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