So why aren't the 2024 spells and the like added when using the 2024 class with the Subclasses? Or in the very least using the 2014 spells. As it stands now, using 2024 rules nets you no Spell List for paladin, even when you turn on 2014 and legacy.
Hey is it just me, or are you not able to select proficiency for Surgeon's Tools at all? No background, class, or feat (even the ones that come with this book)
Any fix for this because I have a Doctor Cleric that this would be perfect for.
So why aren't the 2024 spells and the like added when using the 2024 class with the Subclasses? Or in the very least using the 2014 spells. As it stands now, using 2024 rules nets you no Spell List for paladin, even when you turn on 2014 and legacy.
This is a known issue when using non-2024 subclasses on the 2024 Paladin.
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Hey is it just me, or are you not able to select proficiency for Surgeon's Tools at all?
Seems like it's an issue in the character builder specifically. You can add it directly on the character sheet by clicking inside Proficiencies & Training, then using the sidebar.
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So why aren't the 2024 spells and the like added when using the 2024 class with the Subclasses? Or in the very least using the 2014 spells. As it stands now, using 2024 rules nets you no Spell List for paladin, even when you turn on 2014 and legacy.
This is a known issue when using non-2024 subclasses on the 2024 Paladin.
Is there any update on getting this known issue fixed?
I mentioned it to the devs the other day as part of a short list of 2024 issues that still get mentioned the most, but I don't know what they're currently working on or what their next priorities are.
The other ones I'd mentioned were Ritual Caster, Martial Arts Die, Warlock invocations, and (now fixed!) XGTE feat prerequisites.
Hey is it just me, or are you not able to select proficiency for Surgeon's Tools at all? No background, class, or feat (even the ones that come with this book)
Any fix for this because I have a Doctor Cleric that this would be perfect for.
You can manually do it by clicking your tool prof box on your character sheet and adding a custom tool, not a perfect fix but it's something
When viewed on the character sheet, Water Whip has the text "Special: 15 ft." under the damage. This seems totally unrelated to anything actually in the text of the spell, which has a range of 60 ft for the purpose of targeting a water source, lets you choose a target withing 30 ft. of the water source, and then pull them 10 ft. towards it. So where is "Special: 15 ft." coming from?
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The "Special: 15 ft." appears from levels 5-10, indicating the increased distance you can pull a target at those levels. The 10 ft. distance applies to levels 1-4 only.
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The "Always Prepared" spells for the Oath of the Harvest Paladin do not appear on the Spells tab of the Character Sheet. It does show them as "always prepared" when using the Manage Spells feature of the site, but doesn't list them as Prepared there either. https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/148373759
I saw that it was posted above, but the remark that it was working doesn't seem like it does, so asking again.
My Cyclopian Biomancy Wizard level 10 has issues with my subclass spells. I try adding them manually (as they don't add automatically) and because I had already reached my prepared spell limit, I can't add them to my prepared spells, even though these should be accessible and not count against my prepared spell limit. Basically I can't use my subclass spells unless I restrict my prepared spells to accomodate them, which isn't right.
Biomancy Spells*
Level
Spells
1st
false life, longstrider
2nd
alter self, darkvision, spider climb
3rd
haste, water breathing
4th
stoneskin
6th
flesh to stone
7th
simulacrum
9th
shapechange
I also can't select the surgeon's tools (even though it added to my proficiencies) and keeps advising I haven't selected an option (only one is surgeon's tools). I'm wondering if this is causing the spells to not integrate because it is under the same feature.
Biomancy Savant 1 choice - 3rd level
3rd-level School of Biomancy feature
Beginning when you select this school at 3rd level, the gold and time you must spend to copy a biomancy spell into your spellbook is halved. In addition, you gain proficiency with surgeon’s tools, and the following spells are considered biomancy spells for you instead of their normal school.
My Cyclopian Biomancy Wizard level 10 has issues with my subclass spells. [...] Basically I can't use my subclass spells unless I restrict my prepared spells to accomodate them, which isn't right.
Where does it say they should be added automatically, or not count against your prepared spell limit?
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i never saw that thank you
So why aren't the 2024 spells and the like added when using the 2024 class with the Subclasses? Or in the very least using the 2014 spells. As it stands now, using 2024 rules nets you no Spell List for paladin, even when you turn on 2014 and legacy.
Hey is it just me, or are you not able to select proficiency for Surgeon's Tools at all? No background, class, or feat (even the ones that come with this book)
Any fix for this because I have a Doctor Cleric that this would be perfect for.
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Is there any update on getting this known issue fixed?
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ModeratorI mentioned it to the devs the other day as part of a short list of 2024 issues that still get mentioned the most, but I don't know what they're currently working on or what their next priorities are.
The other ones I'd mentioned were Ritual Caster, Martial Arts Die, Warlock invocations, and (now fixed!) XGTE feat prerequisites.
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You can manually do it by clicking your tool prof box on your character sheet and adding a custom tool, not a perfect fix but it's something
The Daydream spell from this book can be selected for the Fey Touched feat from the 2024 PHB, but not the one from Tasha's Cauldron of Everything. Additionally, Corrupting Ichor can be selected for 2024 Shadow Touched, but not the 2014 version.
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The range and reload amounts still haven't been fixed
When viewed on the character sheet, Water Whip has the text "Special: 15 ft." under the damage. This seems totally unrelated to anything actually in the text of the spell, which has a range of 60 ft for the purpose of targeting a water source, lets you choose a target withing 30 ft. of the water source, and then pull them 10 ft. towards it. So where is "Special: 15 ft." coming from?
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Ah, didn't occur to me it might be level based. Thank you for the clarification!
The "Always Prepared" spells for the Oath of the Harvest Paladin do not appear on the Spells tab of the Character Sheet. It does show them as "always prepared" when using the Manage Spells feature of the site, but doesn't list them as Prepared there either. https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/148373759
I saw that it was posted above, but the remark that it was working doesn't seem like it does, so asking again.
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ModeratorThat remark was not about these subclass spells. Those are part of a larger issue with non-2024 subclasses used on the 2024 Paladin class.
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My Cyclopian Biomancy Wizard level 10 has issues with my subclass spells. I try adding them manually (as they don't add automatically) and because I had already reached my prepared spell limit, I can't add them to my prepared spells, even though these should be accessible and not count against my prepared spell limit. Basically I can't use my subclass spells unless I restrict my prepared spells to accomodate them, which isn't right.
I also can't select the surgeon's tools (even though it added to my proficiencies) and keeps advising I haven't selected an option (only one is surgeon's tools). I'm wondering if this is causing the spells to not integrate because it is under the same feature.
Biomancy Savant 1 choice - 3rd level
3rd-level School of Biomancy feature
Beginning when you select this school at 3rd level, the gold and time you must spend to copy a biomancy spell into your spellbook is halved. In addition, you gain proficiency with surgeon’s tools, and the following spells are considered biomancy spells for you instead of their normal school.
*See Heliana’s Guide to Monster Hunting for lists of spells that can be from the school of biomancy.
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