There have been a lot of people asking why some partnered content on DDB (e.g. Obojima subclasses, Critical Role content, etc.) does not work with the 2024 ruleset, so I'm putting this here for folks to refer to.
Put simply, we (Wizards of the Coast) don't determine whether or not partnered content gets updated to the 2024 rules, our partners do. Until they come to us and say 'yes, we're going to update this', we can't do anything with it.
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Do they need the updated SRD to make 2024 versions?
To publish them, yes, but it's not a requirement from us, so the ball is still in their court to tell us "yes we will be updating this content for the new rules".
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I do think it needs to be a requirement enforced by DDB/WotC that any third-party book published on DDB needs to make the compatibility status very clear before purchasing the book. There have already been a few books released that caused confusion, or even been outright misleading about whether or not they are compatible with 2024 rules.
There needs to be a standardized icon, symbol, or tag that is in the same place on every book's page in the market place, and this needs to be a requirement to publish on DDB. It also can't be buried in the description or hidden at the end a scrolling bar, as that would completely defeat the purpose.
Did I get it right from the description of the book, that the "Crooked Moon" is fully 2024 compatible? Are the new subclasses in there 2024 compatible as well or just the adventure. Sorry if it's clear, I'm no native speaker and didn't get it from the description.
Crooked Moon is built for the 2024 core rules. Its subclasses will be available for use on DDB only by selecting the 2024 classes. All other character options should be available regardless of class version.
I don't know where else to post this, but Thank You! Thank you to WotC for publishing the updated SRD. This was an important issue for me, I didn't care for the way the OGL got handled, but you delivered on your promise to make it better. I appreciate that you listened to the community. I hope whoever was involved sees this or gets some other gratitude thrown their way.
Crooked Moon is built for the 2024 core rules. Its subclasses will be available for use on DDB only by selecting the 2024 classes. All other character options should be available regardless of class version.
From the official Pre-Order pitch:
The Crooked Moon is written for the new fifth edition core rules, and **fully compatible** with your 2014 content.
This makes it sound like Crooked Moon subclasses will be usable with 2014 classes. Might want to saw off that last bit if they aren't coming to both.
Crooked Moon is built for the 2024 core rules. Its subclasses will be available for use on DDB only by selecting the 2024 classes. All other character options should be available regardless of class version.
From the official Pre-Order pitch:
The Crooked Moon is written for the new fifth edition core rules, and **fully compatible** with your 2014 content.
This makes it sound like Crooked Moon subclasses will be usable with 2014 classes. Might want to saw off that last bit if they aren't coming to both.
That's exactly why I believe a clear label/icon needs to be enforced in DDB's marketplace pages in the same way that the content is made clear. That sentence makes it sound like that book is only compatible with the 2014 rules. "The new fifth edition core rules" doesn't exactly scream "OneD&d".
I fully dismissed that book from my mind since I thought it was only compatible with 2014 rules, since those are the only rules that are explicitly called out.
If you aren't providing a way to toggle play with just the 2014 rule set for the system I am no longer interested in using DND Beyond in any capacity and neither should anyone else. This site is basically useless now. It was made to help with making it easier to manage my characters for play and as a dm but now its forcing me to use new rules that I do not want and even if I had been open to it am now staunchly against ever purchasing since they broke every campaign I was playing and running. Please provide the toggle or I will move off your system permanently.
There wouldn't seem to be any financial incentive for 3rd parties to update their content since it would cost them money and not result in many new sales. I think they would want an incentive to do those updates. Has anything been offered? WOTC benefits the most from updating content to the new rules so it seems fair to share the burden or pay for it. I suppose the homebrew option allows the public to do the work and it costs WOTC nothing. Unfortunately, that doesn't work with Invocations. Perhaps filtering for homebrew could be improved to make it easier to find the homebrew versions.
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D&D StaffThere have been a lot of people asking why some partnered content on DDB (e.g. Obojima subclasses, Critical Role content, etc.) does not work with the 2024 ruleset, so I'm putting this here for folks to refer to.
Put simply, we (Wizards of the Coast) don't determine whether or not partnered content gets updated to the 2024 rules, our partners do. Until they come to us and say 'yes, we're going to update this', we can't do anything with it.
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so, it's a money thing?
No one said or implied that. You'd have to ask each third party publisher as to what the limiting factors are for them
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you really dont think its about money? come on.
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I simply said "No one said or implied that" and "You'd have to ask each third party publisher as to what the limiting factors are for them"
I wasn't expressing any of my opinions on the matter.
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I do think it needs to be a requirement enforced by DDB/WotC that any third-party book published on DDB needs to make the compatibility status very clear before purchasing the book. There have already been a few books released that caused confusion, or even been outright misleading about whether or not they are compatible with 2024 rules.
There needs to be a standardized icon, symbol, or tag that is in the same place on every book's page in the market place, and this needs to be a requirement to publish on DDB.
It also can't be buried in the description or hidden at the end a scrolling bar, as that would completely defeat the purpose.
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Did I get it right from the description of the book, that the "Crooked Moon" is fully 2024 compatible? Are the new subclasses in there 2024 compatible as well or just the adventure. Sorry if it's clear, I'm no native speaker and didn't get it from the description.
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I don't know where else to post this, but Thank You! Thank you to WotC for publishing the updated SRD. This was an important issue for me, I didn't care for the way the OGL got handled, but you delivered on your promise to make it better. I appreciate that you listened to the community. I hope whoever was involved sees this or gets some other gratitude thrown their way.
From the official Pre-Order pitch:
The Crooked Moon is written for the new fifth edition core rules, and **fully compatible** with your 2014 content.
This makes it sound like Crooked Moon subclasses will be usable with 2014 classes. Might want to saw off that last bit if they aren't coming to both.
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That's exactly why I believe a clear label/icon needs to be enforced in DDB's marketplace pages in the same way that the content is made clear. That sentence makes it sound like that book is only compatible with the 2014 rules. "The new fifth edition core rules" doesn't exactly scream "OneD&d".
I fully dismissed that book from my mind since I thought it was only compatible with 2014 rules, since those are the only rules that are explicitly called out.
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If you aren't providing a way to toggle play with just the 2014 rule set for the system I am no longer interested in using DND Beyond in any capacity and neither should anyone else. This site is basically useless now. It was made to help with making it easier to manage my characters for play and as a dm but now its forcing me to use new rules that I do not want and even if I had been open to it am now staunchly against ever purchasing since they broke every campaign I was playing and running. Please provide the toggle or I will move off your system permanently.
There wouldn't seem to be any financial incentive for 3rd parties to update their content since it would cost them money and not result in many new sales. I think they would want an incentive to do those updates. Has anything been offered? WOTC benefits the most from updating content to the new rules so it seems fair to share the burden or pay for it. I suppose the homebrew option allows the public to do the work and it costs WOTC nothing. Unfortunately, that doesn't work with Invocations. Perhaps filtering for homebrew could be improved to make it easier to find the homebrew versions.