There are only spell lists for the following classes:
Artificer
Bard
Cleric
Druid
Paladin
Ranger
Sorcerer
Warlock
Wizard
Any feature or ability that lets you pick a spell from any spell list lets you pick from those spell lists.
Subclasses get expanded spell lists, but those are not spell lists in of themselves. For example, the the Arcana Domain cleric has access to magic missile, but this does not change the cleric spell list, or exist as a spell list in of itself. The same is true of the dunamancy spells; they did not exist on any spell list, instead they are added to the wizard spell list if you are an appropriate subclass.
There are only spell lists for the following classes:
Artificer
Bard
Cleric
Druid
Paladin
Ranger
Sorcerer
Warlock
Wizard
Any feature or ability that lets you pick a spell from any spell list lets you pick from those spell lists.
Subclasses get expanded spell lists, but those are not spell lists in of themselves. For example, the the Arcana Domain cleric has access to magic missile, but this does not change the cleric spell list, or exist as a spell list in of itself. The same is true of the dunamancy spells; they did not exist on any spell list, instead they are added to the wizard spell list if you are an appropriate subclass.
Please look up the "Dunamancy Spell List" section in the Wildemount book, that specifically states "Dunamancy Spell List". Can't be any clearer that this is a spell list.
As for Domain Spells, it is probably not relevant since they are also on other lists. Though I would like to point out that each domain has a "List of Spells" which means the same as a Spell List unless the books actually defines such to be different. Don't know that they do, but they might and I am ok being wrong on this point.
Domain Spells
Each domain has a list of spells — its domain spells — that you gain at the cleric levels noted in the domain description. Once you gain a domain spell, you always have it prepared, and it doesn’t count against the number of spells you can prepare each day.
The art when clicked on says the link is not available and was not formatted properly so I can’t see the art individually to show my players on the app at the table with my iPad it’s really frustrating
There are only spell lists for the following classes:
Artificer
Bard
Cleric
Druid
Paladin
Ranger
Sorcerer
Warlock
Wizard
Any feature or ability that lets you pick a spell from any spell list lets you pick from those spell lists.
Subclasses get expanded spell lists, but those are not spell lists in of themselves. For example, the the Arcana Domain cleric has access to magic missile, but this does not change the cleric spell list, or exist as a spell list in of itself. The same is true of the dunamancy spells; they did not exist on any spell list, instead they are added to the wizard spell list if you are an appropriate subclass.
Please look up the "Dunamancy Spell List" section in the Wildemount book, that specifically states "Dunamancy Spell List". Can't be any clearer that this is a spell list.
As for Domain Spells, it is probably not relevant since they are also on other lists. Though I would like to point out that each domain has a "List of Spells" which means the same as a Spell List unless the books actually defines such to be different. Don't know that they do, but they might and I am ok being wrong on this point.
Domain Spells
Each domain has a list of spells — its domain spells — that you gain at the cleric levels noted in the domain description. Once you gain a domain spell, you always have it prepared, and it doesn’t count against the number of spells you can prepare each day.
RAW I would have to agree with this, even if it’s not RAI.
I think the best short-term solution would be to have a toggle for the campaign that allows/forbids Dunamancy spells for use outside of those two subclasses.
If you look at this page linked below, under the city Nicodranas, you'll see that the population percent of all the races only add up to 99%. This is a small issue, and it could be a typo, just wanted to bring it to people's attention.
If you look at this page linked below, under the city Nicodranas, you'll see that the population percent of all the races only add up to 99%. This is a small issue, and it could be a typo, just wanted to bring it to people's attention.
I've gone through my sources to check - having time off has its benefits above manual labour - and I must agree with all himmels has stated previously.
1) EgtW lists all Dunamancy spells under a subsection labeled "Dunamancy Spell List".
2) The Death Domain Cleric's Reaper ability states "....from any spell list...."
Doesn't this mean RAW, these rules apply to one another?
Not sure if brought up yet, but in the Dunamancy section, Fortunes Favour has a range of 60ft, yet when you search for that spell in beyond, it states the range as Touch? Which is correct?
I've gone through my sources to check - having time off has its benefits above manual labour - and I must agree with all himmels has stated previously.
1) EgtW lists all Dunamancy spells under a subsection labeled "Dunamancy Spell List".
2) The Death Domain Cleric's Reaper ability states "....from any spell list...."
Doesn't this mean RAW, these rules apply to one another?
RAW no. When the rules refer to a spell list, they are referring to the 12 spell lists as they appear in the Player's Handbook section on spells (one for each class)* These are 'formal' spell lists as a rules concepts
Lists of spells, such as the dunamancy list, are not formal spell lists and so do not count under '...from any spell list...."
* I've yet to see any errata that says the Artificer spell list counts as one of these formal, rules concept spell lists.
Not sure if brought up yet, but in the Dunamancy section, Fortunes Favour has a range of 60ft, yet when you search for that spell in beyond, it states the range as Touch? Which is correct?
Thanks for letting us know! The answer is 60 feet. 😊
I've gone through my sources to check - having time off has its benefits above manual labour - and I must agree with all himmels has stated previously.
1) EgtW lists all Dunamancy spells under a subsection labeled "Dunamancy Spell List".
2) The Death Domain Cleric's Reaper ability states "....from any spell list...."
Doesn't this mean RAW, these rules apply to one another?
RAW no. When the rules refer to a spell list, they are referring to the 12 spell lists as they appear in the Player's Handbook section on spells (one for each class)* These are 'formal' spell lists as a rules concepts
Lists of spells, such as the dunamancy list, are not formal spell lists and so do not count under '...from any spell list...."
* I've yet to see any errata that says the Artificer spell list counts as one of these formal, rules concept spell lists.
Can you please let me know where I can find this information in the books, thanks.
This chapter describes the most common spells in the worlds of Dungeons & Dragons. The chapter begins with the spell lists of the spellcasting classes. The remainder contains spell descriptions, presented in alphabetical order by the name of the spell.
This chapter describes the most common spells in the worlds of Dungeons & Dragons. The chapter begins with the spell lists of the spellcasting classes. The remainder contains spell descriptions, presented in alphabetical order by the name of the spell.
That in no way defines that the term "spell list" refers only to the "class spell list", it merely defines class spell lists. Thus the "Dunamancy Spell List" is still a "Spell List", and technically so are "Domain Spell Lists". Based on that, Reaper ability by RAW should be able to choose from the dunamancy spell list.
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There are only spell lists for the following classes:
Any feature or ability that lets you pick a spell from any spell list lets you pick from those spell lists.
Subclasses get expanded spell lists, but those are not spell lists in of themselves. For example, the the Arcana Domain cleric has access to magic missile, but this does not change the cleric spell list, or exist as a spell list in of itself. The same is true of the dunamancy spells; they did not exist on any spell list, instead they are added to the wizard spell list if you are an appropriate subclass.
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Please look up the "Dunamancy Spell List" section in the Wildemount book, that specifically states "Dunamancy Spell List". Can't be any clearer that this is a spell list.
As for Domain Spells, it is probably not relevant since they are also on other lists. Though I would like to point out that each domain has a "List of Spells" which means the same as a Spell List unless the books actually defines such to be different. Don't know that they do, but they might and I am ok being wrong on this point.
The art when clicked on says the link is not available and was not formatted properly so I can’t see the art individually to show my players on the app at the table with my iPad it’s really frustrating
Yeah that’s pretty damn confusing – hopefully they rethink this soon.
RAW I would have to agree with this, even if it’s not RAI.
I think the best short-term solution would be to have a toggle for the campaign that allows/forbids Dunamancy spells for use outside of those two subclasses.
I just purchased the Echo Knight but it does not appear as an option in the Fighter subclass drop-down.
Have you toggled on Critical Role content in the home tab for the character?
Nope. And that did it! Thank you!!
If you look at this page linked below, under the city Nicodranas, you'll see that the population percent of all the races only add up to 99%. This is a small issue, and it could be a typo, just wanted to bring it to people's attention.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/egtw/wildemount-gazetteer-menagerie-coast#Nicodranas
p.s. This is my first time posting so I'm sorry if this is the wrong place for this.
p.178 Orcs Traits, Size: « Orcs are easily 8 feet tall... »
size modifier 2d8
height = 5 feet + 4 inches + your size modifier
that means an orcs can’t be taller then 6 feet and 8 inches if your size modifier is 16.
I supposed the intent was to set the orcs at « easily 6 feet tall not 8 feet, is it ?
This is the right place!
That said, I suspect it's just a rounding issue, and if anything it's probably an issue in the original book (which DDB is faithfully reproducing).
Thanks, couldn't find it on mobile! Much appreciated!
I've gone through my sources to check - having time off has its benefits above manual labour - and I must agree with all himmels has stated previously.
1) EgtW lists all Dunamancy spells under a subsection labeled "Dunamancy Spell List".
2) The Death Domain Cleric's Reaper ability states "....from any spell list...."
Doesn't this mean RAW, these rules apply to one another?
Very minor but I think a word is missing in this sentence "As masters of acquisitions, expositors answer only their High Curator." should likely be "only to their High Curator." From https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/egtw/factions-and-societies#LibraryoftheCobaltSoul
Not sure if brought up yet, but in the Dunamancy section, Fortunes Favour has a range of 60ft, yet when you search for that spell in beyond, it states the range as Touch? Which is correct?
RAW no. When the rules refer to a spell list, they are referring to the 12 spell lists as they appear in the Player's Handbook section on spells (one for each class)* These are 'formal' spell lists as a rules concepts
Lists of spells, such as the dunamancy list, are not formal spell lists and so do not count under '...from any spell list...."
* I've yet to see any errata that says the Artificer spell list counts as one of these formal, rules concept spell lists.
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Thanks for letting us know! The answer is 60 feet. 😊
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Can you please let me know where I can find this information in the books, thanks.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/phb/spells
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That in no way defines that the term "spell list" refers only to the "class spell list", it merely defines class spell lists. Thus the "Dunamancy Spell List" is still a "Spell List", and technically so are "Domain Spell Lists". Based on that, Reaper ability by RAW should be able to choose from the dunamancy spell list.