Question for my fellow DMs. If you were making an NPC for your party to face off against who was in a pact with Tiamat and were giving said NPCs class levels instead of a standard monster stat block, would you pick Great Old One or Celestial? Would you homebrew something entirely unique?
I'm running my party through tyranny of dragons (and also contemplating exploding it to smithereens and stealing bits of the Chroma Conclave from CR) and they killed one of the wyrmspeakers last session. I was thinking of replacing them with a wyrmspeaker who is either a cleric of Tiamat (just spent a couple hours homebrewing a draconic domain for clerics of draconic deities) or a warlock with a secret pact with Tiamat that the cult doesn't know about. Just bouncing ideas around and wanted to get input from those more experienced with the class since I have never played either class.
If you look ahead in the Rise of Tiamat book, it list Tiamat as a fiend. Which means any one with a pact with her is now a fiend warlock. Make them have player levels, cause then they get more features. Like throwing one of the players through the nine hells. That's a thing they get
If I were you, I would look for the features/skills that I want this class or sub-class to be able to access first. Then I would re-flavor/reskin the description of those abilities to better match what you want.
I don't see any reason a deity couldn't be a warlock patron too. It's just that their relationship with the warlock would be different than the relationship a cleric would have with the deity. As for Tiamat, I think the fiend patron is probably the best. Tiamat would be a great patron from a lore standpoint too. She would want the warlock to become powerful enough to help her escape from the nine hells.
I don't see any reason a deity couldn't be a warlock patron too. It's just that their relationship with the warlock would be different than the relationship a cleric would have with the deity. As for Tiamat, I think the fiend patron is probably the best. Tiamat would be a great patron from a lore standpoint too. She would want the warlock to become powerful enough to help her escape from the nine hells.
This is exactly my opinion about it, and it still works if you also choose to use an abishai either THE patron or as her messenger.
Question for my fellow DMs. If you were making an NPC for your party to face off against who was in a pact with Tiamat and were giving said NPCs class levels instead of a standard monster stat block, would you pick Great Old One or Celestial? Would you homebrew something entirely unique?
I'm running my party through tyranny of dragons (and also contemplating exploding it to smithereens and stealing bits of the Chroma Conclave from CR) and they killed one of the wyrmspeakers last session. I was thinking of replacing them with a wyrmspeaker who is either a cleric of Tiamat (just spent a couple hours homebrewing a draconic domain for clerics of draconic deities) or a warlock with a secret pact with Tiamat that the cult doesn't know about. Just bouncing ideas around and wanted to get input from those more experienced with the class since I have never played either class.
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If you look ahead in the Rise of Tiamat book, it list Tiamat as a fiend. Which means any one with a pact with her is now a fiend warlock. Make them have player levels, cause then they get more features. Like throwing one of the players through the nine hells. That's a thing they get
Well, Tiamat is technically a deity, so I think that warlock would be a cleric.
But fiend fits best out of all warlock patrons.
You could make a warlock with a powerful abishai as a patron though.
If I were you, I would look for the features/skills that I want this class or sub-class to be able to access first. Then I would re-flavor/reskin the description of those abilities to better match what you want.
I don't see any reason a deity couldn't be a warlock patron too. It's just that their relationship with the warlock would be different than the relationship a cleric would have with the deity. As for Tiamat, I think the fiend patron is probably the best. Tiamat would be a great patron from a lore standpoint too. She would want the warlock to become powerful enough to help her escape from the nine hells.
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Thanks for all the great food for thought everybody!
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This is exactly my opinion about it, and it still works if you also choose to use an abishai either THE patron or as her messenger.
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Give them the Dragon's Breath spell (Xanathar's) in their spell list if you go warlock, will add some flavor to them.