I believe I asked the question before if a warlock could read a scroll with a wizard spell on it and I seem to remember the answer as being it would have to be a spell thats listed for warlocks. IE tagged on this site for that particular class.
But I noticed today in the DMG that it says any creature who can read the language can attempt the spell. INT saving throw with DC10 a failed throw and you go to the scroll mishap table. Am I misunderstanding this?
What about wands. Can any caster use any wand...or can anyone use any wand? I'm having a hard time finding clarification in the rules. Thanks.
Scrolls can be confusing. When most people I know say "scrolls", they mean "spell scrolls", which is just a subcategory of scrolls in 5th edition.
As usual, there is a general rule about them, and a specific one for spell scrolls that overrides the general.
The general rule says you need to be able to read a written language to attempt to use a scroll. This is for all scrolls that do not contradict this rule, such as Scroll of Protection.
Spell Scrolls are different. They contain a specific spell, and their specific rules mention that if that spell is not in your spell list, the scroll is unintelligible.
The mishap table can likely be used in both cases - attempting to successfully use a non-spell scroll, or attempting to cast a spell scroll that contains a spell of greater level than you can normally cast.
Wands are simpler: They are standard magic items, with standard activation procedures. All you need to do is be attuned to it, if it requires attunement. Note, however, that most wands that require attunement usually require such by a spellcaster. Otherwise, for example the Wand of Magic Missiles, anyone can use them.
Thanks for the clarification. So the Bard who found the spell scroll of Melfs acid arrow and the spell scroll of entangle can basically just sell them or give them to someone who can cast them.
However the wand of Entangle the party found, any of the spell casters can attune themselves to it since it only stipulates that it must be attuned to a spell caster, and doesn't say a particular class. Right?
Just keep in mind there are always exceptions. For example, the aforementioned Bard could get Melf's Acid Arrow or Entangle as the spell of choice for Magical Secrets, in which case they practically enter the bard's list. He could cast the relevant scroll(s) then.
As mentioned above, Wands have very little rules baggage. They're standard magic items, so anyone can follow the item's activation procedures depending on the description, and get the stated result.
The only thing you need to keep in mind is attunement rules. In this case, [Tooltip Not Found] has no attunement requirements, so anyone can use it.
...you know, assuming they can follow the needs of its description. That poor fighter that has been Polymorphed to a sea urchin can't really hold it, which is a requirement in the wand's description. :p
Edit: ...wow, that was the mother of all necromantic rituals. The last post here was from January of 2018!
I believe I asked the question before if a warlock could read a scroll with a wizard spell on it and I seem to remember the answer as being it would have to be a spell thats listed for warlocks. IE tagged on this site for that particular class.
But I noticed today in the DMG that it says any creature who can read the language can attempt the spell. INT saving throw with DC10 a failed throw and you go to the scroll mishap table. Am I misunderstanding this?
What about wands. Can any caster use any wand...or can anyone use any wand? I'm having a hard time finding clarification in the rules. Thanks.
Scrolls can be confusing. When most people I know say "scrolls", they mean "spell scrolls", which is just a subcategory of scrolls in 5th edition.
As usual, there is a general rule about them, and a specific one for spell scrolls that overrides the general.
The general rule says you need to be able to read a written language to attempt to use a scroll. This is for all scrolls that do not contradict this rule, such as Scroll of Protection.
Spell Scrolls are different. They contain a specific spell, and their specific rules mention that if that spell is not in your spell list, the scroll is unintelligible.
The mishap table can likely be used in both cases - attempting to successfully use a non-spell scroll, or attempting to cast a spell scroll that contains a spell of greater level than you can normally cast.
Wands are simpler: They are standard magic items, with standard activation procedures. All you need to do is be attuned to it, if it requires attunement. Note, however, that most wands that require attunement usually require such by a spellcaster. Otherwise, for example the Wand of Magic Missiles, anyone can use them.
Thanks for the clarification. So the Bard who found the spell scroll of Melfs acid arrow and the spell scroll of entangle can basically just sell them or give them to someone who can cast them.
However the wand of Entangle the party found, any of the spell casters can attune themselves to it since it only stipulates that it must be attuned to a spell caster, and doesn't say a particular class. Right?
Sounds about right.
Just keep in mind there are always exceptions. For example, the aforementioned Bard could get Melf's Acid Arrow or Entangle as the spell of choice for Magical Secrets, in which case they practically enter the bard's list. He could cast the relevant scroll(s) then.
What about Wand of Secrets and other non-spell wands? Can 'anyone' use them?
As mentioned above, Wands have very little rules baggage. They're standard magic items, so anyone can follow the item's activation procedures depending on the description, and get the stated result.
The only thing you need to keep in mind is attunement rules. In this case, [Tooltip Not Found] has no attunement requirements, so anyone can use it.
...you know, assuming they can follow the needs of its description. That poor fighter that has been Polymorphed to a sea urchin can't really hold it, which is a requirement in the wand's description. :p
Edit: ...wow, that was the mother of all necromantic rituals. The last post here was from January of 2018!
Here is a pretty good discussion on this topic over at rpg stack exchange: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/56111/can-a-non-spellcaster-attune-to-use-a-wand-or-staff-that-doesnt-require-a-spe