Hi guys! First of all, sorry for my bad english. Yesterday, playing with my friends we got a argue ( a friendly one). One of them used burning hands to a man creature. And he kill it with the fire. Later he wanted to take her clothes and use it for wear it. I say to him that there was no possible, cause the fire for my logic burns her clothes! But he argue that in the spell information says only:
The fire ignites any flammable Objects in the area that aren't being worn or carried.
but not the clothes that the enemy is wearing. In dont understand that like this. What do you think?
Spells only do what they say they do, so your player is correct RAW (rules as written). As a DM you can change it.
I think WotC did this for balance, to keep players from loosing all their gear if they take fire damage, to keep players from targeting objects to burn that a creature might have, to keep from losing the Mcguffin of the campaign accidentally, and a bunch of other shenanigans players might get up to.
If you want to change it, talk to the player so they understand and maybe let them swap out the spell if they don’t like your ruling.
When a creature dies, their body is considered an Object.
When the fire spell kills a creature, they are no longer alive and both their body and everything they are wearing are no longer considered "worn or carried".
Hi guys! First of all, sorry for my bad english. Yesterday, playing with my friends we got a argue ( a friendly one). One of them used burning hands to a man creature. And he kill it with the fire. Later he wanted to take her clothes and use it for wear it. I say to him that there was no possible, cause the fire for my logic burns her clothes! But he argue that in the spell information says only:
The fire ignites any flammable Objects in the area that aren't being worn or carried.
but not the clothes that the enemy is wearing. In dont understand that like this. What do you think?
When a creature dies, their body is considered an Object.
When the fire spell kills a creature, they are no longer alive and both their body and everything they are wearing are no longer considered "worn or carried".
Yeah OP, this is your answer here.
The spell killed them. So all their "worn or carried" objects are no longer being worn or carried. They're all just objects in the spells area. So they ignite. So would the body if you consider it flammable enough since it too is an object.
I would add this from the Basic Rules (also from the intro of the Monster Manual):
A stat block rarely refers to equipment, other than armor or weapons used by a monster. A creature that customarily wears clothes, such as a humanoid, is assumed to be dressed appropriately.
You can equip monsters with additional gear and trinkets however you like, and you decide how much of a monster's equipment is recoverable after the creature is slain and whether any of that equipment is still usable. A battered suit of armor made for a monster is rarely usable by someone else, for instance. If a spellcasting monster needs material components to cast its spells, assume that it has the material components it needs to cast the spells in its stat block.
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Hi guys! First of all, sorry for my bad english. Yesterday, playing with my friends we got a argue ( a friendly one). One of them used burning hands to a man creature. And he kill it with the fire. Later he wanted to take her clothes and use it for wear it. I say to him that there was no possible, cause the fire for my logic burns her clothes! But he argue that in the spell information says only:
The fire ignites any flammable Objects in the area that aren't being worn or carried.
but not the clothes that the enemy is wearing. In dont understand that like this. What do you think?
Really thanks!
Spells only do what they say they do, so your player is correct RAW (rules as written). As a DM you can change it.
I think WotC did this for balance, to keep players from loosing all their gear if they take fire damage, to keep players from targeting objects to burn that a creature might have, to keep from losing the Mcguffin of the campaign accidentally, and a bunch of other shenanigans players might get up to.
If you want to change it, talk to the player so they understand and maybe let them swap out the spell if they don’t like your ruling.
Here's a kind of workaround...
When a creature dies, their body is considered an Object.
When the fire spell kills a creature, they are no longer alive and both their body and everything they are wearing are no longer considered "worn or carried".
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Yeah OP, this is your answer here.
The spell killed them. So all their "worn or carried" objects are no longer being worn or carried. They're all just objects in the spells area. So they ignite. So would the body if you consider it flammable enough since it too is an object.
I got quotes!
Think my only change is it would need to do more damage then the creature had HP but I agree with TransmorpherDDS ruling.
Okey guys thanks! You're right. He has the reason. So the next campaign im going to make him happy haha
I would add this from the Basic Rules (also from the intro of the Monster Manual):