So just put an 8th lvl spell in it to cast 6 times. Thats more broken than upcast fireball. So why the restriction. If it can hold 6 lvl 8 spells that recharge why does a lower spell upcast cause issue. I mean 6 firestorm or 6 incendiary clouds would be better than 6 upcast fireballs. So then why take issue with the upcast?
We don’t even have direction on whether or not a wizard capable of casting fireball at a higher level (for example) could imbue that higher level fireball into a staff.
My immediate thought balance wise would be no, but lore wise why would a caster of that power be unable to spend the extra time and cost to imbue the staff/weapon with more potent magic? Is the time and cost the limiting factor, or the usual rules surrounding casting from an item?
If I'm not wrong, I'd say it's possible.
For example, you could craft an Enspelled Staff with a spell of level 8, in this case Fireball at that level. This would create a Legendary staff.
Then, according to the Magic Item Crafting Time and Cost table in the 2024 DMG, a Legendary item would take 250 days and 100k GP to craft.
Oh, reading the thread after popping up again, I see that what I said here is not right, RAW. I made the same mistake in a couple of threads.
Sorry, I was wrong. I didn't read the rules or the first reply in this thread carefully. Xalthu explained it well. See also this answer from another thread:
I don't know if I agree with that last part — it doesn't say that you're actually casting the spell each day when you're crafting the scroll, just that you have to have it prepared. It doesn't make any mention of using a spell slot at any point in the process, and you have to actually use a spell slot to upcast something.
Hey , I am fairly new to dnd and we probably get to choose a very rare item before an important Boss fight. So the only thing i would Like to know about enspelled weapons is , If you can have them as a +1,+2,+3 Version which is sorta important to me as a gish,or if they basicly stay as they are with only the stored spells in them getting stronger
Give an Enspelled Dagger with Tenser's Transformation on it.
6 times/day, for 10 minutes they get:
50 Temp HP, advantage on all attacks, +2d12 Force damage/hit.
and this is why DMs should be wary of putting them in the game.
6th level Enspelled items are Legendary tier, so it's more a matter of recognizing the scope of magic item power levels than this being an especially broken instance.
Give an Enspelled Dagger with Tenser's Transformation on it.
6 times/day, for 10 minutes they get:
50 Temp HP, advantage on all attacks, +2d12 Force damage/hit.
and this is why DMs should be wary of putting them in the game.
6th level Enspelled items are Legendary tier, so it's more a matter of recognizing the scope of magic item power levels than this being an especially broken instance.
Sure 6th is legendary but at almost every spell level you will find spells that when you can cast them 6 times a day will swing the balance of power by a massive degree. The enspelled items were a terrible add to the game.
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So just put an 8th lvl spell in it to cast 6 times. Thats more broken than upcast fireball. So why the restriction. If it can hold 6 lvl 8 spells that recharge why does a lower spell upcast cause issue. I mean 6 firestorm or 6 incendiary clouds would be better than 6 upcast fireballs. So then why take issue with the upcast?
Oh, reading the thread after popping up again, I see that what I said here is not right, RAW. I made the same mistake in a couple of threads.
Give an Enspelled Dagger with Tenser's Transformation on it.
6 times/day, for 10 minutes they get:
50 Temp HP, advantage on all attacks, +2d12 Force damage/hit.
Hey , I am fairly new to dnd and we probably get to choose a very rare item before an important Boss fight. So the only thing i would Like to know about enspelled weapons is , If you can have them as a +1,+2,+3 Version which is sorta important to me as a gish,or if they basicly stay as they are with only the stored spells in them getting stronger
RAW the only properties of an Enspelled Weapon are what's printed in the block- adding anything else is homebrew.
and this is why DMs should be wary of putting them in the game.
6th level Enspelled items are Legendary tier, so it's more a matter of recognizing the scope of magic item power levels than this being an especially broken instance.
Thank you
Sure 6th is legendary but at almost every spell level you will find spells that when you can cast them 6 times a day will swing the balance of power by a massive degree. The enspelled items were a terrible add to the game.