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Isn't the 19+ level the same as a 4+ level requirement?
If you multi class a character 4 times at third level, you can have a 12 level multi class character that not once qualified to get a ASI. Carry that further you do 2 other classes stopping at 3rd level and now you are at 18 level with no ASI. If I choose to start a new class, the first level class will also grant me an epic boon because I am 19 level total? But my 19 level character not once qualified for ASI.
Both are total level. To take your example, a Fighter 3/Rogue 3/Monk 3/Barbarian 3/Cleric 3/Paladin 3/Wizard 1, while it now meet the Prerequisite: Level 4+ of the Ability Score Improvement feat and the Prerequisite: Level 19+ of the Boon of Combat Prowess feat, it's not able to take any of those feat because no Class Feature allows it to take a feat at any level.
If instead such character reach level 4 in any of it's class instead of multiclassing Wizard 1, it would be able to take either feat.
But aren't people writing that you can be multi class 10/9 level and still take epic boon?
If I understand those that state multi class at level 19 and the above, then the two interpretations contradict each other.
Yes, it's called a disagreement, hence why this thread exists lol
If something have a level prerequisite and doesn't specify a class, it's referencing your total character level
The prerequisite for an epic boon feat is character level 19+
So if you level up and you would get a feat as part of a class feature and your total character level is 19+, you can take an epic boon feet.
For example, if were a multiclass of Barbarian 11/Fighter 3/Monk 3/Rogue 1 (stay with me here) for a total class level of 18, if you levelled up your Barbarian, Fighter, or Monk classes you'd be a level 19 character able to pick a feat for which you qualify. This includes Epic Boon Feats as their prerequisite is "Prerequisite: Level 19+".
Say you chose fighter 4—if you then levelled up barbarian to 12, you'd be able to pick a second Epic Boon Feat.
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The only arguement i read that you CAN take two Epic Boons is because when no specific feat category is stated you can take any category.
But why then go over the trouble of mentioning the Epic Boon option at level 19 at each class table?
Why make Epic Boon feats a whole different category instead of a general feat with a level 19 requirement?
Couldn't it be another oversight from WoTC?
Every feat category is tied to a specific aspect of the character, Weapon Masteries and Fighting Styles to their respective class traits and Origin feats to Backgrounds, why should Epic Boon be any different?
A character leveling to 10/9 gains no Class Feature at such level giving a feat such as Ability Score Improvement.
Perhaps a better way to state it is that to take a feat when you level up, two things must both be true: first, the level you are taking must grant you a feat; second, you must meet all the feat’s prerequisites.
For Epic Boon feats, the prerequisite is that your total character level is at least 19. So, you can take one at character level 19 and/or 20, but only if the first condition I mentioned is also true.
(Note that this means you actually can take one as a 10/9 character, if the 10 is in Rogue and it’s the 19th level you take. That’s because this class grants a feat at level 10. Other classes don’t.)
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There could be an exeption in the event you can Rebuild part of your character such as in the LEGEND OF GREYHAWK Organized Play.
Then a character 10/9 rebuild may change a feat taken at level 4 and or 8 for another one, which could be Epic Boon feat.
To highlight the new option and make a different feat recommendation.
No. It's not an oversight.
At levels 4, 8, 12, and 16, you are not required to take a general feat. You can take a Fighting Style or Origin feat instead. Weapon Masteries are not feats. So, yes, Epic Boons are not any different in that you can take them at those class levels, as long as your character level is 19+. At those class levels, you are never restricted in the category of feat as long as you meet the prerequisites.
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Two very good questions that the designers haven't publicly answered. It might be that they do so in the future and then we will find out what they intended, but until they do so all we have is the rules as they stand and they don't make any more limitations than being level 19.
Nah you are getting the reasons wrong.
Your character isn't prohibited from taking a feat because of whatever level he is (in total or in a specific class) he is prohibited because he hasn't yet gained a class feature that allows him to take a feat.
If that character had taken his 19th level not in a new class but rather by becoming 4th level in one of the classes he already had then he would be level 19 and allowed to take a feat, which could then be any feat he meets the requirement for (such as an epic boon).