I want to find a way to trick a dragon into willingly letting me cast this on them, masking them as a celestial, fiend, etc, and then instant-casting Planar Binding on them from a Glyph of Warding. Boom! Ancient Red Dragon familiar. That's right.
I want to find a way to trick a dragon into willingly letting me cast this on them, masking them as a celestial, fiend, etc, and then instant-casting Planar Binding on them from a Glyph of Warding. Boom! Ancient Red Dragon familiar. That's right.
A trick which would also involve hiding the Glyph from them AND mean them failing the Cha save (which they could LR if they have any for the day). Good luck with that.
I want to find a way to trick a dragon into willingly letting me cast this on them, masking them as a celestial, fiend, etc, and then instant-casting Planar Binding on them from a Glyph of Warding. Boom! Ancient Red Dragon familiar. That's right.
That's in the realm of "can I try this" between you and your DM- about the only RAW way to facilitate this would be hitting them with a Dominate Monster, but good luck beating a +8 with advantage saving throw plus 4 or 5 LRs.
Technically, glyph of warding does not say anything about casting instantly. There's a valid argument for saying that if you store a spell with a casting time of an hour in a glyph of warding, when the glyph is triggered the spell is cast over the next hour.
Technically, glyph of warding does not say anything about casting instantly. There's a valid argument for saying that if you store a spell with a casting time of an hour in a glyph of warding, when the glyph is triggered the spell is cast over the next hour.
That's because Glyph of Warding's trigger doesn't cast a spell. It makes it take effect. Same wording as Wish. The spell is cast as part of casting Glyph of Warding instead.
I want to find a way to trick a dragon into willingly letting me cast this on them, masking them as a celestial, fiend, etc, and then instant-casting Planar Binding on them from a Glyph of Warding. Boom! Ancient Red Dragon familiar. That's right.
You might as well just have a Cleric use Divine Intervention for this to get your instant Planar Binding... But keep in mind that Adult and Ancient Dragons have Legendary Resistances and will brush it off. So the best you can hope for is a Young pet dragon :)
Actually, now that I think about it... If I can get the dragon to burn off it's legendary resistances, I could hit it with a Suggestion to "hold still and willingly accept the effects of any spells I cast on it for the next 8 hours." That would make it 'willing' for the purposes of Nystul's, and give me the time to cast Planar Binding without the need for Glyph of Warding or Divine Intervention. The changes to Suggestion in 2024 (no longer has to be "reasonable") should make that valid.
Actually, now that I think about it... If I can get the dragon to burn off it's legendary resistances, I could hit it with a Suggestion to "hold still and willingly accept the effects of any spells I cast on it for the next 8 hours." That would make it 'willing' for the purposes of Nystul's, and give me the time to cast Planar Binding without the need for Glyph of Warding or Divine Intervention. The changes to Suggestion in 2024 (no longer has to be "reasonable") should make that valid.
That will require failing 4 to 5 saves so the best option would be to target Int saves and hope that it wants to use the Legendary Resistance as opposed to taking the effect.
Actually, now that I think about it... If I can get the dragon to burn off it's legendary resistances, I could hit it with a Suggestion to "hold still and willingly accept the effects of any spells I cast on it for the next 8 hours." That would make it 'willing' for the purposes of Nystul's, and give me the time to cast Planar Binding without the need for Glyph of Warding or Divine Intervention. The changes to Suggestion in 2024 (no longer has to be "reasonable") should make that valid.
I want to find a way to trick a dragon into willingly letting me cast this on them, masking them as a celestial, fiend, etc, and then instant-casting Planar Binding on them from a Glyph of Warding. Boom! Ancient Red Dragon familiar. That's right.
A trick which would also involve hiding the Glyph from them AND mean them failing the Cha save (which they could LR if they have any for the day). Good luck with that.
That's in the realm of "can I try this" between you and your DM- about the only RAW way to facilitate this would be hitting them with a Dominate Monster, but good luck beating a +8 with advantage saving throw plus 4 or 5 LRs.
Technically, glyph of warding does not say anything about casting instantly. There's a valid argument for saying that if you store a spell with a casting time of an hour in a glyph of warding, when the glyph is triggered the spell is cast over the next hour.
That's because Glyph of Warding's trigger doesn't cast a spell. It makes it take effect. Same wording as Wish.
The spell is cast as part of casting Glyph of Warding instead.
You might as well just have a Cleric use Divine Intervention for this to get your instant Planar Binding... But keep in mind that Adult and Ancient Dragons have Legendary Resistances and will brush it off. So the best you can hope for is a Young pet dragon :)
Actually, now that I think about it... If I can get the dragon to burn off it's legendary resistances, I could hit it with a Suggestion to "hold still and willingly accept the effects of any spells I cast on it for the next 8 hours." That would make it 'willing' for the purposes of Nystul's, and give me the time to cast Planar Binding without the need for Glyph of Warding or Divine Intervention. The changes to Suggestion in 2024 (no longer has to be "reasonable") should make that valid.
That will require failing 4 to 5 saves so the best option would be to target Int saves and hope that it wants to use the Legendary Resistance as opposed to taking the effect.
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Which is somewhat difficult, I believe; most official INT save spells don’t really rate an LR.
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Yeah, speaking as a DM running a group that includes a sorcerer who throws this spell around a lot, that's not a save you want to fail.
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This was proposed in the video Suggestion is Stupid Broken in D&D 2024 Player's Handbook! I shared it in a thread with a similar idea you're proposing (Suggestion spell)
Personally, I don't think it's the intent of the spell.
A couple of related threads:
- Polymorph, suffocation, and 2024 rules
- Arcane Armor vs Suggestion Spell