Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
Frozen Sick
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Casting Time: 1 minute
Range: Self (10-foot-radius hemisphere)
As per the description. Do you follow the casting time for ritual spells or the 1 minute stated?
Second does the hemisphere have a floor to keep out flowing water or creatures from digging up into it? Thus poison can get in buy way of the bottom?
Using it for every single rest period is what its made for.
Using it to protect themselves from monsters does not mean the monsters stay away from it. Wondering creatures will just wait for the food to get out.
Smart monsters have many ways to TPK the group inside a Tiny Hut.
If you want to limit the spell you could always state that it can't be cast inside a room or area that is too small for it. The hemisphere is 20 foot wide and 10 feet tall. Just make the room 9 feet tall or the room is only 19 ft 11 inches or less. How many 20 foot areas free of trees do you find out in a forest?
It's 1 minute if cast as a non-ritual, 11 minutes if cast as a ritual.
Which is a problem if the intent is that resting is difficult or impossible.
The easy fix is either "this spell does not exist" or "this spell uses the 3rd edition description for what it does".
The rules are explicitly written in idiomatic English. That's what comfortable means in this context in normal conversational English.
And the sentence reinforces that interpretation with the ending clause "regardless of the weather outside". Dry and comfortable is only talking about weather. Poison gas is not weather. The spell never says it makes it comfortable in all imaginable ways, so it doesn't. It says it makes it comfortable regardless of weather, so it only affects weather to make it comfortable.
It does not keep out flowing water. Flowing water is a liquid, not an object. Nor is flowing water 'weather' or 'atmosphere', so it is not made dry.
It has a bottom because it's an Emanation. It extends until it hits total cover. (And that means a 'too small space' doesn't stop it from working, as well).
Water is absolutely either an object or a collection of objects.
Water is not an object as the term is defined in D&D, as it is not distinct.
In addition to what Pantagruel said, liquids in conversational 'idiomatic' English are not objects. Nor are gases. Only solids can be objects.
Are you saying a glass of water wouldn't be distinct? Because if a smaller portion is, then the larger amount is either an object or a collection of objects.
The glass would be distinct. The contents would not.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/distinct
Both 1 and 3 feel relevant as possible definitions of how they use distinct. Explain how it doesn't fit both of those.
It doesn't fit definition 1; it's only distinguishable by location. Also, an object is a thing subject to breaking objects.
"Water is separate from the land it runs through." When the text of the definition can be used in a sensible sentence, the definition fits.
As for breaking objects, that's a general rule which, as we all know (or should know), doesn't cover edge cases. Water doesn't break the same way as wood or stone, but it could absolutely be damaged. For instance, a good DM could rule that fire will cause it to evaporate.
Additionally, ice is in the list and ice is just a form of water. Does a river suddenly become an object because it froze?
And a chunk of ice is an object. It's a distinct solid thing. So yes, a river suddenly becomes an object when it freezes. (Similarly, a bar of iron stops being an object, and stops being a bar at all, when it melts). This is perfectly normal English usage. An ice cube is an object. A puddle of water is not an object. And literally any native English speaker would understand it that way in a normal conversation.
We already know the game doesn't treat ice and water interchangeably, because Shape Water only shapes liquid water, not ice or water vapor.
(Nor should LTH be a way to dam a river. The consequence of your unnatural reading is also absurd. And if I ever ended up in a game where a DM ruled liquid water was an object, yes, I'm absolutely doing that.)
Edit: and the DMG is perfectly clear on this, fwiw: "For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone, not a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects."
Yes. Chunks of ice are in fact distinct objects.
-A frozen river is much more than a chunk of ice, the only valid answer is one that answers for the whole river freezing over as one massive piece as I was asking.
-Molten metal isn't suddenly not an object just because of its state of matter. This leads down an entire discussion of states of matter, softness of objects, and how easily something can be separated. For instance, if a puddle isn't an object, how can a ball of clay be an object when it can similarly be reshaped or separated?
Whether Shape Water works on other states of matter isn't relevant to this discussion in the slightest. Shape Water isn't based on object rules.
-Nobody said it could. A river would likely just flow around LTH, maybe rise a little around where the LTH is, but that's it.
-I already addressed this by pointing out a river would count as a collection of objects. It would be ruled more like a building or vehicle in that text.
There is no evidence that D&D has atoms; it generally uses Aristotelian chemistry (fire/air/earth/water).
Not only are the two compatible with each other, there's no evidence that it doesn't. Actually, that our literal Earth is canonically part of the D&D multiverse and magic still functions here would indicate that atomic structure is, in fact, a thing.
The next time I see someone casting a spell outside of a video game and it doing anything, I'll call that point relevant.
It's relevant whether you like it or not. In D&D lore, Earth exists and multiple prominent characters have visited in the past. This necessarily means that atoms exist in the D&D multiverse because they made no changes to how Earth works. (They also noted that Earth used to have magic naturally but it's faded over centuries, which is why we don't have magic users now.)
IMO, if water were an object or a collection of objects, then you could not Teleport to that space or occupy freely that space:
A couple of threads where water and space were debated:
- Can You Misty Step Through A Door With a Window? What Is A Space You Can See?
- Teleportation Circle and "nearest unoccupied space"