How does the Hide action interact with attacking?

The action gives the invisible condition, and the invisible condition gives advantage on attack rolls. However, the invisible condition from hide also ends once an attack roll of made, so if you attack someone after taking the hide action, does it have advantage or not? Need to know so I can bully my players with Shadows and Shadow Dragons next session :)

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...so if you attack someone after taking the hide action, does it have advantage or not?

Yes, just the once, hit or miss. (Though there are some class features and feats that mess with that a bit.)

It's the same as how Invisibility stops as soon as you attack. Although the Condition ended the attacker still has Advantage.

One thing to be aware of, however, There  are arguments to be made that on occasion the Invisibility condition for Hide may be broken before the attack is made (e.g., if the person Hiding is forced to approach their target from the front without adequate cover for a long enough distance), but these arguments are not without people who will vehemently disagree. It comes down to exactly how you interpret certain phrases (primarily the phrase 'an enemy finds you') and how potent you want Stealth to be.

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The action gives the invisible condition, and the invisible condition gives advantage on attack rolls. However, the invisible condition from hide also ends once an attack roll of made, so if you attack someone after taking the hide action, does it have advantage or not? Need to know so I can bully my players with Shadows and Shadow Dragons next session :)

The invisible condition from hide ends immediately after making an attack roll, and thus the attack roll benefits from being invisible (unless invisibility is ended by something else, of course).

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The action gives the invisible condition, and the invisible condition gives advantage on attack rolls. 

Perhaps even more importantly, the Hide action causes you to become hidden (concealed).  

The resulting interaction asked about in this OP is covered elsewhere in the general rules in a sidebar called Unseen Attackers and Targets:

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When a creature can’t see you, you have Advantage on attack rolls against it.

If you are hidden when you make an attack roll, you give away your location when the attack hits or misses.

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It's the same as how Invisibility stops as soon as you attack. Although the Condition ended the attacker still has Advantage.

One thing to be aware of, however, There  are arguments to be made that on occasion the Invisibility condition for Hide may be broken before the attack is made (e.g., if the person Hiding is forced to approach their target from the front without adequate cover for a long enough distance), but these arguments are not without people who will vehemently disagree. It comes down to exactly how you interpret certain phrases (primarily the phrase 'an enemy finds you') and how potent you want Stealth to be.

It's impossible to draw line of sight to a Hidden creature, because they're Invisible.  So the only way to 'find them' is pass the perception check. 

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It's the same as how Invisibility stops as soon as you attack. Although the Condition ended the attacker still has Advantage.

One thing to be aware of, however, There  are arguments to be made that on occasion the Invisibility condition for Hide may be broken before the attack is made (e.g., if the person Hiding is forced to approach their target from the front without adequate cover for a long enough distance), but these arguments are not without people who will vehemently disagree. It comes down to exactly how you interpret certain phrases (primarily the phrase 'an enemy finds you') and how potent you want Stealth to be.

 

It's impossible to draw line of sight to a Hidden creature, because they're Invisible.  So the only way to 'find them' is pass the perception check. 

 RAW, this is correct. However, the Invisible does not specify a duration. Most DM's would rule that you can not take the Hide action in the brush at the edge of a field, then move into the open and spend the next 3 turns standing in that open field in broad daylight and remain unseen by the enemies all around you. While this is strictly within the rules, it makes no sense from a narrative or logical perspective. Ultimately, it is up to the DM do decide when the conditions of any given situation make it difficult (possibly requiring a Stealth check) or downright impossible for you to remain Invisible to the enemies. 

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It's the same as how Invisibility stops as soon as you attack. Although the Condition ended the attacker still has Advantage.

One thing to be aware of, however, There  are arguments to be made that on occasion the Invisibility condition for Hide may be broken before the attack is made (e.g., if the person Hiding is forced to approach their target from the front without adequate cover for a long enough distance), but these arguments are not without people who will vehemently disagree. It comes down to exactly how you interpret certain phrases (primarily the phrase 'an enemy finds you') and how potent you want Stealth to be.

 

It's impossible to draw line of sight to a Hidden creature, because they're Invisible.  So the only way to 'find them' is pass the perception check. 

 RAW, this is correct. However, the Invisible does not specify a duration. Most DM's would rule that you can not take the Hide action in the brush at the edge of a field, then move into the open and spend the next 3 turns standing in that open field in broad daylight and remain unseen by the enemies all around you. While this is strictly within the rules, it makes no sense from a narrative or logical perspective. Ultimately, it is up to the DM do decide when the conditions of any given situation make it difficult (possibly requiring a Stealth check) or downright impossible for you to remain Invisible to the enemies. 

The DM can not follow the rules whenever they choose.  But this is the Rules & Game Mechanics forum.  The rules are the law.

And it does specify a duration. "You stop being hidden immediately after any of the following occurs: you make a sound louder than a whisper, an enemy finds you, you make an attack roll, or you cast a spell with a Verbal component."  How long are you Hidden?  Until one of those things happen.

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It's the same as how Invisibility stops as soon as you attack. Although the Condition ended the attacker still has Advantage.

One thing to be aware of, however, There  are arguments to be made that on occasion the Invisibility condition for Hide may be broken before the attack is made (e.g., if the person Hiding is forced to approach their target from the front without adequate cover for a long enough distance), but these arguments are not without people who will vehemently disagree. It comes down to exactly how you interpret certain phrases (primarily the phrase 'an enemy finds you') and how potent you want Stealth to be.

 

It's impossible to draw line of sight to a Hidden creature, because they're Invisible.  So the only way to 'find them' is pass the perception check. 

 RAW, this is correct. However, the Invisible does not specify a duration. Most DM's would rule that you can not take the Hide action in the brush at the edge of a field, then move into the open and spend the next 3 turns standing in that open field in broad daylight and remain unseen by the enemies all around you. While this is strictly within the rules, it makes no sense from a narrative or logical perspective. Ultimately, it is up to the DM do decide when the conditions of any given situation make it difficult (possibly requiring a Stealth check) or downright impossible for you to remain Invisible to the enemies. 

The DM can not follow the rules whenever they choose.  But this is the Rules & Game Mechanics forum.  The rules are the law.

And it does specify a duration. "You stop being hidden immediately after any of the following occurs: you make a sound louder than a whisper, an enemy finds you, you make an attack roll, or you cast a spell with a Verbal component."  How long are you Hidden?  Until one of those things happen.

This is from the Sage Advice Compendium, which are considered official rulings:

Adventuring

If I’m hidden and a creature with Blindsight or Truesight sees me, am I still hidden?

No. Being hidden is a game state that gives you the Invisible condition. If a creature finds you, you’re no longer hidden and lose that condition, as explained in the Hide action (see appendix C of the Player’s Handbook).

If you are seen, you are no longer hidden and lose the Invisible condition. Standing in plain sight with enemies around would would obviously qualify as being seen in the same way that Blindsight or Truesight would.

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