Grappling may only require one hand, so it is possible under the right circumstances to grapple multiple targets.
If two people grapple one person, that person is just as grappled as when one person grapples them, but they would have to make separate attempts to break free from each.
EDIT: I misunderstood your first question. You can absolutely grapple someone who is grappling someone else. In that case, both of the other people would have the grappled condition.
Just remember for the grappling a grappler chain, if a non-grappled grappler (A) drags his grappled target (B) away from his target's (B's) grapple target (C), then that target (C) is no longer grappled once out of reach.
Just remember for the grappling a grappler chain, if a non-grappled grappler (A) drags his grappled target (B) away from his target's (B's) grapple target (C), then that target (C) is no longer grappled once out of reach.
Bummer, I really wanted to make a grappling conga line.
Our DM ruled it that 2 different people grappling the same person applied Restrained to that person. Unsure of whether or not it was just that particular situation (1 person had the torso, the other had the legs) or if that would be a broader "this is what always happens" thing.
Our DM ruled it that 2 different people grappling the same person applied Restrained to that person. Unsure of whether or not it was just that particular situation (1 person had the torso, the other had the legs) or if that would be a broader "this is what always happens" thing.
I agree that two people grappling the same creature could cause restrained, but it's a house rule and wouldn't apply to larger creatures or those with strange anatomy.
Our DM ruled it that 2 different people grappling the same person applied Restrained to that person.
fwiw: using the standard rules, two grapplers couldGrapple a person, then Shove them Prone, which creates modifiers that are very similar to Restrained (and they can't stand while still Grappled).
Our DM ruled it that 2 different people grappling the same person applied Restrained to that person.
fwiw: using the standard rules, two grapplers couldGrapple a person, then Shove them Prone, which creates modifiers that are very similar to Restrained (and they can't stand while still Grappled).
Very good point, and frankly that's exactly why the Grappler feat is trash. Restraining a target does not logically mean that you become restrained as well. Someone whom is "restrained" is so specifically because they are not in control. If I have my foot planted in someone's back so firmly that they cannot move, that does not mean I am unable to move/attack/block/dodge/adjust as needed. I could also just release at any time and go about my day; the target actually being restrained cannot, so it's illogical to say that my own attacks are at disadvantage & attacks against me have advantage.
The advantage while normally grappling targets is the only real benefit. Trying to restrain just creates a net-negative benefit for the cost of an action.
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You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
The advantage while normally grappling targets is the only real benefit. Trying to restrain just creates a net-negative benefit for the cost of an action.
Nah. Knocking a creature prone is a pain in the ass for everyone that's not in the front lines, and it also doesn't grant disadvantage on Dexterity saves. All the feat needs to get out of the mediocre category to being average is a +1 bonus to Strength.
First question would be, is it possible for a grappler to grapple someone who grappling someone else. (Sorry I know its a mouthful)
Second question is what if two people grapple one person.
EDIT: I misunderstood your first question. You can absolutely grapple someone who is grappling someone else. In that case, both of the other people would have the grappled condition.
"Not all those who wander are lost"
Just remember for the grappling a grappler chain, if a non-grappled grappler (A) drags his grappled target (B) away from his target's (B's) grapple target (C), then that target (C) is no longer grappled once out of reach.
Bummer, I really wanted to make a grappling conga line.
Our DM ruled it that 2 different people grappling the same person applied Restrained to that person. Unsure of whether or not it was just that particular situation (1 person had the torso, the other had the legs) or if that would be a broader "this is what always happens" thing.
I agree that two people grappling the same creature could cause restrained, but it's a house rule and wouldn't apply to larger creatures or those with strange anatomy.
fwiw: using the standard rules, two grapplers could Grapple a person, then Shove them Prone, which creates modifiers that are very similar to Restrained (and they can't stand while still Grappled).
Very good point, and frankly that's exactly why the Grappler feat is trash. Restraining a target does not logically mean that you become restrained as well. Someone whom is "restrained" is so specifically because they are not in control. If I have my foot planted in someone's back so firmly that they cannot move, that does not mean I am unable to move/attack/block/dodge/adjust as needed. I could also just release at any time and go about my day; the target actually being restrained cannot, so it's illogical to say that my own attacks are at disadvantage & attacks against me have advantage.
The advantage while normally grappling targets is the only real benefit. Trying to restrain just creates a net-negative benefit for the cost of an action.
You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
Nah. Knocking a creature prone is a pain in the ass for everyone that's not in the front lines, and it also doesn't grant disadvantage on Dexterity saves. All the feat needs to get out of the mediocre category to being average is a +1 bonus to Strength.