I love the plane-touched races, be they the angelic aasimar, the misunderstood tiefling, the elemental genasi...a nice change from the classic "human-dwarf-elf" races.
However, as I prepare to create a new character for an upcoming campaign, I am wondering about a particular backstory where a child is born to an aasimar mother, and tiefling father.
These two particular races tend to be at odds with each other, in a cosmic sense, so it is unclear if a child born of these two parents would be a tiefling, or an aasimar.
My theory is that it would be an aasimar, though one of the Fallen Aasimar sub race, as they tend to be "touched by some dark power". This makes the mingling of tiefling & aasimar more acceptable. It also offers a potential story hook, as the dark temptations that normally come with tieflings could still apply to the aasimar. Sort of a "torn between two worlds" type story...
I may even have him have a tiefling sibling, just to sort of show the contrast in their family.
I also wonder about genasi...do they pass on their elemental heritage? What happens when a earth genasi and, say, a fire genasi have a child? What is the dominant factor...?
What do you all think? What happens when two plane-touched races collide?
In my campaigns, aasimar and tieling mating results in no viable children. That is mine...you could end up with a human in yours (the planetouched canceling each other out) or perhaps a 50/50. A fallen Aasimar being one step removed from a tiefling, probably would have tiefling children.
For no canonical reason my order of how breeding works planar wise ( and this is opinion not canon)
Planetouched beats all regular races. An Aasimar begats and Aasimar, Tiefling begats a tiefling, etc.
Outer plane touched beats inner. An Aasimar/Tiefling trumps a Gensai.
Inner beats all prime. (restating obvious, but a Genasi trumps normal races)
Mixed inner planetouched is a 50/50. You could make this MORE complicated, like you get 50/50 chance of the other two Genasi, if opposites mate.
Eladrin and Elves always get half-elves. You never can get a full elf back from breeding, and half-elves breed true and don't become humans later. I list them here, because of the new story of elves with MTOF, where they were the blood of a god, left to the feywild, and then left for the prime. Very diluted planetouched, so in the absence of a stronger one, they get half-elves.
Eladrin, Elves, Half-Elves are trumped by all Planetouched. The elven blood isn't strong enough to counter planetouched.
This is completely made up (except the elven part, that came from Keith Baker writings on Eberron and the view of the undying court has on half-elves). But like anything else, it's what the DM allows, and you can negotiate.
With aasimar and tieflings, my headcanon is that either it's a 50/50 chance that you get one or the other OR you end up with fraternal twins. One of each.
My dm said it is rare for the two to be able to make a viable offspring and even rarer for it to be mixed... however I am working on a current character of this type of parentage. A fallen aasimar w a teifling slave. The mother has conceived a Nephilim wich is a dark mix of the two bloodlines. The lore is scarce and the race is not widely accepted by all DMs because of the possibility of ot being OP. Anyways.... when the nephilim is conceived, all the planes touched beings feel an uncomfortable almost tingly surge of power. The celestial feel almost ominously compelled to set out and hunt down this unnatural being. If the mother survives till delivery she will always die during the procedure. All of the mothers worries, essential and basic knowledge are then inherited by the child. If the mothers concern for the child is great enough, the child might even grow to full adult size in as little as an hr in extreme cases. The nephilim lives a life on the run from celestial beings as well as corrupt individuals who want to manipulate and use the nephilim for power. I found thos super intriguing and I hope it helps!
Personally, I think mixing the influences both makes sense and is an interesting path to explore. Fallen aasimar is probably the closest you can find in the official rules, but if it were my campaign, I would totally consider homebrewing a race that mixes the traits. After all, I see no problem (and actually think it sounds fascinating!) to have someone be touched by multiple planes. With the inner planes genasi, that absolutely makes sense since the planes themselves blend and interact, so why shouldn't their influence on creatures?
For the outer planes, I could see someone arguing that one planar influence would push out the other, but I still like the idea of them being mixed. In fact, this is stirring up an idea I've toyed with in the past of a homebrew race that (wish there was a better term but it fits the concept perfectly) is a planar mutt. The influences all blend together into something different.
My thing of be to go custom heritage, and make it what you want.
Cannonically, it's a magic world, and you're talking two of the most hand wavy "magical" species in the game who at least one of gets it's traits from a retroactive "curse" and a particular demon that anything else.
I haven't looked, but apparently there was some sort of early One D&D UA that addressed this kind of thing.
Were it I as DM, in a general FR sense, I would sit down with you and figure out which traits came along. Essentially creating a "new species". But I am also a mixed heritage person myself, so I have perhaps a smidge more personal interest in helping out that kind of thing.
In my upcoming campaign, such wouldn't be possible. But I also have all manner of halflings, and a much, much simpler underlying basis all of it than the full range of options.
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I love the plane-touched races, be they the angelic aasimar, the misunderstood tiefling, the elemental genasi...a nice change from the classic "human-dwarf-elf" races.
However, as I prepare to create a new character for an upcoming campaign, I am wondering about a particular backstory where a child is born to an aasimar mother, and tiefling father.
These two particular races tend to be at odds with each other, in a cosmic sense, so it is unclear if a child born of these two parents would be a tiefling, or an aasimar.
My theory is that it would be an aasimar, though one of the Fallen Aasimar sub race, as they tend to be "touched by some dark power". This makes the mingling of tiefling & aasimar more acceptable. It also offers a potential story hook, as the dark temptations that normally come with tieflings could still apply to the aasimar. Sort of a "torn between two worlds" type story...
I may even have him have a tiefling sibling, just to sort of show the contrast in their family.
I also wonder about genasi...do they pass on their elemental heritage? What happens when a earth genasi and, say, a fire genasi have a child? What is the dominant factor...?
What do you all think? What happens when two plane-touched races collide?
In my campaigns, aasimar and tieling mating results in no viable children. That is mine...you could end up with a human in yours (the planetouched canceling each other out) or perhaps a 50/50. A fallen Aasimar being one step removed from a tiefling, probably would have tiefling children.
For no canonical reason my order of how breeding works planar wise ( and this is opinion not canon)
This is completely made up (except the elven part, that came from Keith Baker writings on Eberron and the view of the undying court has on half-elves). But like anything else, it's what the DM allows, and you can negotiate.
With aasimar and tieflings, my headcanon is that either it's a 50/50 chance that you get one or the other OR you end up with fraternal twins. One of each.
My dm said it is rare for the two to be able to make a viable offspring and even rarer for it to be mixed... however I am working on a current character of this type of parentage. A fallen aasimar w a teifling slave. The mother has conceived a Nephilim wich is a dark mix of the two bloodlines. The lore is scarce and the race is not widely accepted by all DMs because of the possibility of ot being OP. Anyways.... when the nephilim is conceived, all the planes touched beings feel an uncomfortable almost tingly surge of power. The celestial feel almost ominously compelled to set out and hunt down this unnatural being. If the mother survives till delivery she will always die during the procedure. All of the mothers worries, essential and basic knowledge are then inherited by the child. If the mothers concern for the child is great enough, the child might even grow to full adult size in as little as an hr in extreme cases. The nephilim lives a life on the run from celestial beings as well as corrupt individuals who want to manipulate and use the nephilim for power. I found thos super intriguing and I hope it helps!
Personally, I think mixing the influences both makes sense and is an interesting path to explore. Fallen aasimar is probably the closest you can find in the official rules, but if it were my campaign, I would totally consider homebrewing a race that mixes the traits. After all, I see no problem (and actually think it sounds fascinating!) to have someone be touched by multiple planes. With the inner planes genasi, that absolutely makes sense since the planes themselves blend and interact, so why shouldn't their influence on creatures?
For the outer planes, I could see someone arguing that one planar influence would push out the other, but I still like the idea of them being mixed. In fact, this is stirring up an idea I've toyed with in the past of a homebrew race that (wish there was a better term but it fits the concept perfectly) is a planar mutt. The influences all blend together into something different.
Did you ever make him?
My thing of be to go custom heritage, and make it what you want.
Cannonically, it's a magic world, and you're talking two of the most hand wavy "magical" species in the game who at least one of gets it's traits from a retroactive "curse" and a particular demon that anything else.
I haven't looked, but apparently there was some sort of early One D&D UA that addressed this kind of thing.
Were it I as DM, in a general FR sense, I would sit down with you and figure out which traits came along. Essentially creating a "new species". But I am also a mixed heritage person myself, so I have perhaps a smidge more personal interest in helping out that kind of thing.
In my upcoming campaign, such wouldn't be possible. But I also have all manner of halflings, and a much, much simpler underlying basis all of it than the full range of options.
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Wyrlde: Adventures in the Seven Cities
.-=] Lore Book | Patreon | Wyrlde YT [=-.
An original Setting for 5e, a whole solar system of adventure. Ongoing updates, exclusies, more.
Not Talking About It / Dubbed The Oracle in the Cult of Mythology Nerds