I created a Human Sorcerer. For his feat I took Magic Initiate but took it in the Warlock Class. I did this to get Eldritch Blast and Hex. Is this allowed by the rules?
The Magic Initiate feat is mostly used to do exactly what you're doing, getting spells from a class other than yours, usually with the same casting stat if you already have one. Just, as was mentioned, as long as your DM has OK'd using feats (which most do).
1) Yes it is allowed, it is the expected use of the feat.
2) It is rather weak. EB is a fantastic spell...once you add in the Invocations. Without the invocation, Toll of the Dead does more damage and lots of other spells have great add ons. Hex is OK, comparable with some low level abilities and the ranger spell Hunter's Mark.
My favorite use of Magic Initiate is to get Faerie Fire (best first level spell) and some of the useful M cantrips: Mage Hand/Mending/Message/Minor Illusion
Best? A barbarian grappling someone and jumping off a cliff and then casting Feather Fall on himself is a lot more entertaining. And since the Magic Initiate spell isn't prepared, RAW it's a once per day thing. Goodberry once a day means never having to buy rations or foraging for food.
But to answer the question (again), yes taking warlock spells with Magic Initiate as a Sorcerer is allowed by RAW and RAI.
Best? A barbarian grappling someone and jumping off a cliff and then casting Feather Fall on himself is a lot more entertaining. And since the Magic Initiate spell isn't prepared, RAW it's a once per day thing. Goodberry once a day means never having to buy rations or foraging for focubod.
But to answer the question (again), yes taking warlock spells with Magic Initiate as a Sorcerer is allowed by RAW and RAI.
Wow, that is a fantastic battle plan! And it has such great synergy with my 9th level spell CREATE CLIFF. So it will be so very useful all the time!
Faerie Fire is a first level spell that a) creates light, b) defeats invisibility, and c) grants advantage to hit against everyone that fails a save in a 20 x 20 cube. Nobody ever regrets getting it and it is one of those spells like Shield that you will still be using at 20th level.
Goodberry is a nice spell but if you are worrying about buying food you should retire from adventuring.
Goodberry is a nice spell but if you are worrying about buying food you should retire from adventuring.
Yes, because in dungeons and wildernesses there are always merchants around ready to take all your gold!
Faerie Fire only negates the benefit of being invisible if the target fails the save and while having the target emit dim light in a 10' radius is nice, it doesn't give your friend that's on two death saves a hit point back. But it's still a nice spell as long as you've got a good Charisma modifier, which a Sorcerer should have. Not really sure about a Barbarian though, but that Create Cliff homebrew of yours may benefit from it.
Kinda surprised there are feats that grant invocations, lesser pacts or whatever. Since they don't exist I guess they can't be simply home-brewed and would require some some whole cloth homebrew if that's doable, probably not in a way that could be integrated with EB either.
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Kinda surprised there are feats that grant invocations, lesser pacts or whatever.
Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has the Eldritch Adept feat. It grants one warlock Eldritch Invocation of your choice. But if it has a prerequisite you must be a warlock that meets the listed prerequisite.
Kinda surprised there are feats that grant invocations, lesser pacts or whatever.
Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has the Eldritch Adept feat. It grants one warlock Eldritch Invocation of your choice. But if it has a prerequisite you must be a warlock that meets the listed prerequisite.
Yay! and Boo! I forgot that one, but I wonder if you can liberate that feat from the prerequisite in the homebrew tools?
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Kinda surprised there are feats that grant invocations, lesser pacts or whatever.
Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has the Eldritch Adept feat. It grants one warlock Eldritch Invocation of your choice. But if it has a prerequisite you must be a warlock that meets the listed prerequisite.
Yay! and Boo! I forgot that one, but I wonder if you can liberate that feat from the prerequisite in the homebrew tools?
It'd be tricky, since they don't let you use homebrew to replicate already published rules. That said, there are some real banger Invocations that don't have prereqs: Agonizing Blast, Mask of Many Faces, and Eyes of the Rune Keeper are just a few examples.
Kinda surprised there are feats that grant invocations, lesser pacts or whatever.
Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has the Eldritch Adept feat. It grants one warlock Eldritch Invocation of your choice. But if it has a prerequisite you must be a warlock that meets the listed prerequisite.
Yay! and Boo! I forgot that one, but I wonder if you can liberate that feat from the prerequisite in the homebrew tools?
It'd be tricky, since they don't let you use homebrew to replicate already published rules. That said, there are some real banger Invocations that don't have prereqs: Agonizing Blast, Mask of Many Faces, and Eyes of the Rune Keeper are just a few examples.
I thought that was only if you published that kind of home brew, as long as it is for you and your games I thought you could copy items from say your physical PHB to your private homebrew.
Best? A barbarian grappling someone and jumping off a cliff and then casting Feather Fall on himself is a lot more entertaining. And since the Magic Initiate spell isn't prepared, RAW it's a once per day thing. Goodberry once a day means never having to buy rations or foraging for food.
Rage blocks spellcasting. So that might not work quite as well. (Or would work equally well with any other STR-focused class.)
Kinda surprised there are feats that grant invocations, lesser pacts or whatever.
Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has the Eldritch Adept feat. It grants one warlock Eldritch Invocation of your choice. But if it has a prerequisite you must be a warlock that meets the listed prerequisite.
Yay! and Boo! I forgot that one, but I wonder if you can liberate that feat from the prerequisite in the homebrew tools?
I'm not a homebrew expert, but I think I've heard it can be done. IIRC however there's no "choose an invocation" option however. So it has to do with how you name the feat. (But that didn't work when I tried it. But I may have had issues.)
The only prereq Eldritch Adept has is "Spellcasting or Pact Magic feature." Individual invocations sometimes have their own prereqs, however, and the feat doesn't bypass those.
(Also, you can turn off feat prereqs, at least, with a switch on dndbeyond.)
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I created a Human Sorcerer. For his feat I took Magic Initiate but took it in the Warlock Class. I did this to get Eldritch Blast and Hex. Is this allowed by the rules?
RAW I think it is ok, just remember feats are an optional rule so ultimately it is up to your DM/group and a great question to ask at session 0.
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The Magic Initiate feat is mostly used to do exactly what you're doing, getting spells from a class other than yours, usually with the same casting stat if you already have one. Just, as was mentioned, as long as your DM has OK'd using feats (which most do).
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1) Yes it is allowed, it is the expected use of the feat.
2) It is rather weak. EB is a fantastic spell...once you add in the Invocations. Without the invocation, Toll of the Dead does more damage and lots of other spells have great add ons. Hex is OK, comparable with some low level abilities and the ranger spell Hunter's Mark.
My favorite use of Magic Initiate is to get Faerie Fire (best first level spell) and some of the useful M cantrips: Mage Hand/Mending/Message/Minor Illusion
Best? A barbarian grappling someone and jumping off a cliff and then casting Feather Fall on himself is a lot more entertaining. And since the Magic Initiate spell isn't prepared, RAW it's a once per day thing. Goodberry once a day means never having to buy rations or foraging for food.
But to answer the question (again), yes taking warlock spells with Magic Initiate as a Sorcerer is allowed by RAW and RAI.
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Wow, that is a fantastic battle plan! And it has such great synergy with my 9th level spell CREATE CLIFF. So it will be so very useful all the time!
Faerie Fire is a first level spell that a) creates light, b) defeats invisibility, and c) grants advantage to hit against everyone that fails a save in a 20 x 20 cube. Nobody ever regrets getting it and it is one of those spells like Shield that you will still be using at 20th level.
Goodberry is a nice spell but if you are worrying about buying food you should retire from adventuring.
Yes, because in dungeons and wildernesses there are always merchants around ready to take all your gold!
Faerie Fire only negates the benefit of being invisible if the target fails the save and while having the target emit dim light in a 10' radius is nice, it doesn't give your friend that's on two death saves a hit point back. But it's still a nice spell as long as you've got a good Charisma modifier, which a Sorcerer should have. Not really sure about a Barbarian though, but that Create Cliff homebrew of yours may benefit from it.
Kinda surprised there are feats that grant invocations, lesser pacts or whatever. Since they don't exist I guess they can't be simply home-brewed and would require some some whole cloth homebrew if that's doable, probably not in a way that could be integrated with EB either.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has the Eldritch Adept feat. It grants one warlock Eldritch Invocation of your choice. But if it has a prerequisite you must be a warlock that meets the listed prerequisite.
Yay! and Boo! I forgot that one, but I wonder if you can liberate that feat from the prerequisite in the homebrew tools?
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
It'd be tricky, since they don't let you use homebrew to replicate already published rules. That said, there are some real banger Invocations that don't have prereqs: Agonizing Blast, Mask of Many Faces, and Eyes of the Rune Keeper are just a few examples.
I thought that was only if you published that kind of home brew, as long as it is for you and your games I thought you could copy items from say your physical PHB to your private homebrew.
Is this not the case?
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Rage blocks spellcasting. So that might not work quite as well. (Or would work equally well with any other STR-focused class.)
I'm not a homebrew expert, but I think I've heard it can be done. IIRC however there's no "choose an invocation" option however. So it has to do with how you name the feat. (But that didn't work when I tried it. But I may have had issues.)
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This isn't really the thread topic, but
The only prereq Eldritch Adept has is "Spellcasting or Pact Magic feature." Individual invocations sometimes have their own prereqs, however, and the feat doesn't bypass those.
(Also, you can turn off feat prereqs, at least, with a switch on dndbeyond.)