The Undertale/Deltarune Cult (Rebooted!)

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Little theory regarding the secret boss items

Chapter 1- Jevil- Devilsknife- Susie

Chapter 2- Spamton- PuppetScarf- Ralsei 

Chapter 3- Rory- BlackShard- Kris

Susie-Ralsei-Kris

Chapter 4- Gerson- Justiceaxe- Susie

Now this is where I assumed that chapter 5 was going to have a ralsei based item, however, we received item(s) for all three, and Ralsei's FloweryScarf

1.Assuming that the boss item is the FloweryScarf (as like, a story perspective), this continues the pattern, chapter 6 being an item for kris, ending the second loop of Susie-Ralsei-Kris, making chapter 7 have no item, or having an item for all three

2.Assuming that the item is meant to be the Petalarmors (name for the items you buy from the flowers), then the loop is disrupted, most likely continuing through Ralsei chapter 6 and Kris chapter 7

HOWEVER

Deltarune side B

if you did the weird route, the item given by Spamton is... the ThornRing

which would make the cycle

Susie-Noelle-Kris

Susie-

 

Noelle

for chapter 5

 

Kris

for chapter 7B

 

Ima call this Secret Cycle Theory and get, like, 2 upvotes on Reddit

 

 

 Well if we're talking secret bosses, Chapter 5 was the last shadow crystal. Although I personally think we'll fight Seam in Chapter 6 for the Pure Crystal, after that there probably won't be any more secret bosses. (Although if we do fight Seam they could give Kris an item along with the Pure Crystal, letting the cycle end exactly)

As for the weird route, we don't really get any actual items in Chapter 5 except for the Bread...

 I made the Noelle segment for chapter 5 just be... the lake scene

and yes, I am just now realizing we have all 5 shadow crystals, but that doesn't mean that we won't get anymore items for our efforts

I mean yeah I see your point, I just don't think that anything with the lake scene qualifies as a secret boss item. Although since the Weird Route already breaks the game so much, it would make sense for it to break the cycle as well.

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I mean yeah I see your point, I just don't think that anything with the lake scene qualifies as a secret boss item. Although since the Weird Route already breaks the game so much, it would make sense for it to break the cycle as well.

 another thing, in the normal route, we get a very clear disruption in the PetalArmors, however, Flowery then proceeds (no pun intended) to give us a Ralsei items, making it ambiguous as to whether or not Chapter 5 breaks the cycle

and of course Flowery is the one doing this