The Empire not only brought order to the galaxy but they actively helped people's lives get better, they had legions of people becoming troopers, Patrol Troopers are literally just cops, you could argue the leaders were evil, but Palpatine is an emperor, and he wants everyone to bow to him he wanted power for power's sake, like every single king, queen, emperor, or president. The Death Star had to atleast give a planet worth of people jobs, contractors, construction workers, engineers, architects, and all of those Troopers assigned to it, millions of not billions of people were involved with it, they're just soldiers. I love the comics because it literally tells us kids looked up to storm troopers, they took prisoners when they could, they're fighting terrorists too so I know they must be mad at the rebels. Almost you're looking at a trooper who's killed people and may have known the atrocities they're committing, but that's a handful. Even if the Empire was built on blood the New Republic was too. At least the Empire brought order, look at every show that takes place after the original trilogy, Mandalorian has crime syndicates all over the place, Book of Boba fett is literally a gang war, and in all of them there's people still loyal to the Empire, people who lived during the old republic and still liking the Empire better. The 2nd Death Star probably was even less moral to fire upon, because it wasn't even finished, like I've been saying; there where entire families living on it. They blew up planets that were planning on attacking and adding terrorist, that's just war, and it wasn't even all of them they just got rid of some so the war could end.
As a reminder: The death star blew up planets... Just because the rebels were imperfect doesn't make the empire 'good guys'. They were irredeemably evil, and as for people looking up to them? Thats sorta what propaganda does. Besides a select few high up members- such as inquisitors and Grand Admiral Thrawn- the empire was also extremely xeophobic. Advancing only humans, as the core worlds were mainly populated by humans, giving them political advantage and support in the core worlds. But its constantly shown the outer rim suffered under their rule, such as Ryloth, Lothal, Kashyyyk(wookies were literally taken as muscle slaves by the empire), and not least of all an actual core world of Alderaan. Yes, the rebels killed a LOT of people, and certainly the new republic didnt do amazing at stopping crime at the time it was getting set up, but its important to note any transition of power will be messy and difficult. The empire is certainly not 'the good guys', and was completely corrupt at best, and psychopathically evil at worst
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As a reminder: The death star blew up planets... Just because the rebels were imperfect doesn't make the empire 'good guys'. They were irredeemably evil, and as for people looking up to them? Thats sorta what propaganda does. Besides a select few high up members- such as inquisitors and Grand Admiral Thrawn- the empire was also extremely xeophobic. Advancing only humans, as the core worlds were mainly populated by humans, giving them political advantage and support in the core worlds. But its constantly shown the outer rim suffered under their rule, such as Ryloth, Lothal, Kashyyyk(wookies were literally taken as muscle slaves by the empire), and not least of all an actual core world of Alderaan. Yes, the rebels killed a LOT of people, and certainly the new republic didnt do amazing at stopping crime at the time it was getting set up, but its important to note any transition of power will be messy and difficult. The empire is certainly not 'the good guys', and was completely corrupt at best, and psychopathically evil at worst
I'm glad someone had a counter-argument, I was just gonna say "no you're wrong".
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CUT YOUR QUOTE CHAINS EARLIER IM ON MOBILE AND ITS HELL TO SCROLL THROUGH THEM
The Empire not only brought order to the galaxy but they actively helped people's lives get better, they had legions of people becoming troopers, Patrol Troopers are literally just cops, you could argue the leaders were evil, but Palpatine is an emperor, and he wants everyone to bow to him he wanted power for power's sake, like every single king, queen, emperor, or president. The Death Star had to atleast give a planet worth of people jobs, contractors, construction workers, engineers, architects, and all of those Troopers assigned to it, millions of not billions of people were involved with it, they're just soldiers. I love the comics because it literally tells us kids looked up to storm troopers, they took prisoners when they could, they're fighting terrorists too so I know they must be mad at the rebels. Almost you're looking at a trooper who's killed people and may have known the atrocities they're committing, but that's a handful. Even if the Empire was built on blood the New Republic was too. At least the Empire brought order, look at every show that takes place after the original trilogy, Mandalorian has crime syndicates all over the place, Book of Boba fett is literally a gang war, and in all of them there's people still loyal to the Empire, people who lived during the old republic and still liking the Empire better. The 2nd Death Star probably was even less moral to fire upon, because it wasn't even finished, like I've been saying; there where entire families living on it. They blew up planets that were planning on attacking and adding terrorist, that's just war, and it wasn't even all of them they just got rid of some so the war could end.
Starting with just the founding of the Empire, where clone troopers (real people, these are not robots) were chipped and forced to kill people they were friends with. Then Stormtroopers were phased in by draft - these were not all volunteers. Stormtroopers that continuously die for the Emperor's gain, for causes they probably don't even know what they're fighting for. Stormtroopers being a symbol of power and control for kids to look up to is quite literally the definition of fascist propaganda. Have you watched Andor yet? Palpatine become an emperor so that he could control and exploit other planets, and the "order" it brought was quite literally suppressing people under a police state and killing/imprisoning people exercising free speech. Those crime syndicates existed under Palpatine - it is a core part of the fourth movie that Jabba is running a lucrative and successful business running spice and other materials. In fact, those crime syndicates were BOLSTERED by Palpatine, who largely ignored them as long as they didn't interfere with his plans because the premise of the original war (old Republic vs CIS) was that the CIS was being ignored by New Republic when trying to deal with their crime rates and such. Also Anakin Skywalker killed children. And they slaughtered the entire Jedi Council. Aldaraan was not a terrorist planet, that is a literal war crime to wipe out every living thing on a planet with no warning because there is ONE suspected terrorist base on it. There's also so much more I could go into here, but no, the Empire is built literally to satirize fascist, authoritarian regimes. You would probably have a good life under the Empire if you're a mid-high income human living in a closer proximity world to Coruscant.
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— δ ψινο • the croc master • hε/hιm δ — “sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ, ɪ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪɴ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀ ᴜs.” ——————| EXTENDED SIG |—————— Φ • happily married to • ☁️ℝ𝔼𝔻ℙ𝔼𝕃𝕋☁️ • As vast as the sun, stars, and the sky itself, so is my promise to you • Φ
sorry I love star wars, it was like flashing the bat signal :p
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— δ ψινο • the croc master • hε/hιm δ — “sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ, ɪ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪɴ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀ ᴜs.” ——————| EXTENDED SIG |—————— Φ • happily married to • ☁️ℝ𝔼𝔻ℙ𝔼𝕃𝕋☁️ • As vast as the sun, stars, and the sky itself, so is my promise to you • Φ
— δ ψινο • the croc master • hε/hιm δ — “sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ, ɪ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪɴ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀ ᴜs.” ——————| EXTENDED SIG |—————— Φ • happily married to • ☁️ℝ𝔼𝔻ℙ𝔼𝕃𝕋☁️ • As vast as the sun, stars, and the sky itself, so is my promise to you • Φ
if you look in the percy jackson thread or on my recent posts with arch you can find out i'd rather not say it on this thread because unlike the percy jackson thread it wont be buried after a bit of time
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sorry I love star wars, it was like flashing the bat signal :p
I know almost nothing about Star Wars, but it’s interesting to read.
*throws ultra ball at Cyno*
WAHHHHHHHHHH
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— δ ψινο • the croc master • hε/hιm δ — “sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ, ɪ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪɴ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀ ᴜs.” ——————| EXTENDED SIG |—————— Φ • happily married to • ☁️ℝ𝔼𝔻ℙ𝔼𝕃𝕋☁️ • As vast as the sun, stars, and the sky itself, so is my promise to you • Φ
The Empire not only brought order to the galaxy but they actively helped people's lives get better, they had legions of people becoming troopers, Patrol Troopers are literally just cops, you could argue the leaders were evil, but Palpatine is an emperor, and he wants everyone to bow to him he wanted power for power's sake, like every single king, queen, emperor, or president. The Death Star had to atleast give a planet worth of people jobs, contractors, construction workers, engineers, architects, and all of those Troopers assigned to it, millions of not billions of people were involved with it, they're just soldiers. I love the comics because it literally tells us kids looked up to storm troopers, they took prisoners when they could, they're fighting terrorists too so I know they must be mad at the rebels. Almost you're looking at a trooper who's killed people and may have known the atrocities they're committing, but that's a handful. Even if the Empire was built on blood the New Republic was too. At least the Empire brought order, look at every show that takes place after the original trilogy, Mandalorian has crime syndicates all over the place, Book of Boba fett is literally a gang war, and in all of them there's people still loyal to the Empire, people who lived during the old republic and still liking the Empire better. The 2nd Death Star probably was even less moral to fire upon, because it wasn't even finished, like I've been saying; there where entire families living on it. They blew up planets that were planning on attacking and adding terrorist, that's just war, and it wasn't even all of them they just got rid of some so the war could end.
The Empire not only brought order to the galaxy but they actively helped people's lives get better, they had legions of people becoming troopers, Patrol Troopers are literally just cops, you could argue the leaders were evil, but Palpatine is an emperor, and he wants everyone to bow to him he wanted power for power's sake, like every single king, queen, emperor, or president. The Death Star had to atleast give a planet worth of people jobs, contractors, construction workers, engineers, architects, and all of those Troopers assigned to it, millions of not billions of people were involved with it, they're just soldiers. I love the comics because it literally tells us kids looked up to storm troopers, they took prisoners when they could, they're fighting terrorists too so I know they must be mad at the rebels. Almost you're looking at a trooper who's killed people and may have known the atrocities they're committing, but that's a handful. Even if the Empire was built on blood the New Republic was too. At least the Empire brought order, look at every show that takes place after the original trilogy, Mandalorian has crime syndicates all over the place, Book of Boba fett is literally a gang war, and in all of them there's people still loyal to the Empire, people who lived during the old republic and still liking the Empire better. The 2nd Death Star probably was even less moral to fire upon, because it wasn't even finished, like I've been saying; there where entire families living on it. They blew up planets that were planning on attacking and adding terrorist, that's just war, and it wasn't even all of them they just got rid of some so the war could end.
OHMIGOSH dat is absoluteli da mostest crazeest thing eva
In all seriousness that is pretty interesting
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As a reminder: The death star blew up planets... Just because the rebels were imperfect doesn't make the empire 'good guys'. They were irredeemably evil, and as for people looking up to them? Thats sorta what propaganda does. Besides a select few high up members- such as inquisitors and Grand Admiral Thrawn- the empire was also extremely xeophobic. Advancing only humans, as the core worlds were mainly populated by humans, giving them political advantage and support in the core worlds. But its constantly shown the outer rim suffered under their rule, such as Ryloth, Lothal, Kashyyyk(wookies were literally taken as muscle slaves by the empire), and not least of all an actual core world of Alderaan. Yes, the rebels killed a LOT of people, and certainly the new republic didnt do amazing at stopping crime at the time it was getting set up, but its important to note any transition of power will be messy and difficult. The empire is certainly not 'the good guys', and was completely corrupt at best, and psychopathically evil at worst
NNCHRIS: SOUL THIEF, MASTER OF THE ARCANE, AND KING OF NEW YORKNN
Gdl Creator of Ilheia and her Knights of the Fallen Stars ldG
Lesser Student of Technomancy [undergrad student in computer science]
Supporter of the 2014 rules, and a MASSIVE Homebrewer. Come to me all ye who seek salvation in wording thy brews!
Open to homebrew trades at any time!! Or feel free to request HB, and Ill see if I can get it done for ya!
Characters (Outdated)
I'm glad someone had a counter-argument, I was just gonna say "no you're wrong".
Pokemon Master, Hero of Hyrule, Jedi Knight, Minecrafter, Celestial Being Beyond Comprehension, Bounty Hunter, Salmon Runner, Nailmaster, Yarn Yoshi Enjoyer, Animal Lover, Math Rock Roller, Nerd King in all Aspects.
(And, of course, Dragon Tamer. It is in the name, after all)
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CUT YOUR QUOTE CHAINS EARLIER IM ON MOBILE AND ITS HELL TO SCROLL THROUGH THEM
Starting with just the founding of the Empire, where clone troopers (real people, these are not robots) were chipped and forced to kill people they were friends with. Then Stormtroopers were phased in by draft - these were not all volunteers. Stormtroopers that continuously die for the Emperor's gain, for causes they probably don't even know what they're fighting for. Stormtroopers being a symbol of power and control for kids to look up to is quite literally the definition of fascist propaganda. Have you watched Andor yet? Palpatine become an emperor so that he could control and exploit other planets, and the "order" it brought was quite literally suppressing people under a police state and killing/imprisoning people exercising free speech. Those crime syndicates existed under Palpatine - it is a core part of the fourth movie that Jabba is running a lucrative and successful business running spice and other materials. In fact, those crime syndicates were BOLSTERED by Palpatine, who largely ignored them as long as they didn't interfere with his plans because the premise of the original war (old Republic vs CIS) was that the CIS was being ignored by New Republic when trying to deal with their crime rates and such. Also Anakin Skywalker killed children. And they slaughtered the entire Jedi Council. Aldaraan was not a terrorist planet, that is a literal war crime to wipe out every living thing on a planet with no warning because there is ONE suspected terrorist base on it. There's also so much more I could go into here, but no, the Empire is built literally to satirize fascist, authoritarian regimes. You would probably have a good life under the Empire if you're a mid-high income human living in a closer proximity world to Coruscant.
— δ ψινο • the croc master • hε/hιm δ —
“sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ, ɪ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪɴ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀ ᴜs.”
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Φ • happily married to • ☁️ℝ𝔼𝔻ℙ𝔼𝕃𝕋☁️ • As vast as the sun, stars, and the sky itself, so is my promise to you • Φ
hi cyno :)
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Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
hello drizzt :) how are you?
— δ ψινο • the croc master • hε/hιm δ —
“sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ, ɪ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪɴ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀ ᴜs.”
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Φ • happily married to • ☁️ℝ𝔼𝔻ℙ𝔼𝕃𝕋☁️ • As vast as the sun, stars, and the sky itself, so is my promise to you • Φ
GASP wild cyno spotted!
i'm doing okay i guess
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
sorry I love star wars, it was like flashing the bat signal :p
— δ ψινο • the croc master • hε/hιm δ —
“sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ, ɪ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪɴ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀ ᴜs.”
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Φ • happily married to • ☁️ℝ𝔼𝔻ℙ𝔼𝕃𝕋☁️ • As vast as the sun, stars, and the sky itself, so is my promise to you • Φ
lol
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
did something happen?
— δ ψινο • the croc master • hε/hιm δ —
“sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ, ɪ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪɴ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀ ᴜs.”
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Φ • happily married to • ☁️ℝ𝔼𝔻ℙ𝔼𝕃𝕋☁️ • As vast as the sun, stars, and the sky itself, so is my promise to you • Φ
I know almost nothing about Star Wars, but it’s interesting to read.
*throws ultra ball at Cyno*
if you look in the percy jackson thread or on my recent posts with arch you can find out i'd rather not say it on this thread because unlike the percy jackson thread it wont be buried after a bit of time
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
WAHHHHHHHHHH
— δ ψινο • the croc master • hε/hιm δ —
“sᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ, ɪ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪɴ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴇᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀ ᴜs.”
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Φ • happily married to • ☁️ℝ𝔼𝔻ℙ𝔼𝕃𝕋☁️ • As vast as the sun, stars, and the sky itself, so is my promise to you • Φ
NOW FIGHT FOR ME
Lmao cyno has 4 moves sleep, draw,summon and deal making
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Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
cyno if you want to know what happened its at the top of page 2762 for percy jackson thread
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Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
How much is the propaganda department paying you?
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