Introducing D&D Beyond Drops: A Growing Content Library to Expand Your Game

Drops are replacing Subscriber Perks to give subscribers a bit more for their money. They’re totally optional if you don't want them in your game. I’m not a fan of big corporations, but I don't see an issue here—it makes sense that those who subscribe receive a little something extra, and it is always a choice to use them or not.

Quote from Caerwyn_Glyndwr >>

Since feedback was requested, I would like to express my support for the player-facing options being shared.  Player options are always at their best when the entire group has access, and the benefits here are so minor that they do not justify a subscription for a single character’s build (as one cannot use multiple options for g same character).

I would also like to note for the ranting posters on this thread.. Wizards already said “Our next step is simple: make Drops the program you want it to be. We’ll be listening, iterating, and shaping what comes next together with you. I can’t wait to see where we take it from here!”

They already invited feedback. A bunch of voices engaged in good faith feedback saying “here is why we think this should be shared” is a whole lot more effective than “how dare you Wizards!” posts drowning out the voices actually trying to get this matter to constructively change.

 I'm going to add my own two cents to this and say that, since this post's comments will most likely be used as a source of feedback, an angry comment that can be summed up as "This sucks! Why can't we share this stuff with our players?" is going to be more constructive than an angry comment that can be summed up as "How dare you, Wizards, you greedy bastards!" That doesn't mean your anger is unjustified.

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This is also why they don't want to enable content sharing: oh you want to have the same access to content as the rest of your table? Guess everyone has to sub now not just the GM.

 Or the DM could just manually add it to someone's character sheet. Or they could just duplicate it with D&D Beyond's homebrew creator.

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This is also why they don't want to enable content sharing: oh you want to have the same access to content as the rest of your table? Guess everyone has to sub now not just the GM.

 Or the DM could just manually add it to someone's character sheet. Or they could just duplicate it with D&D Beyond's homebrew creator.

I don't think creating mountains of additional work for DMs is a particularly useful subscription feature…

When is this going to be available on the app? 

Specifically, the spells, background, and feats and potentially any other character options.

And this should also be shareable in campaigns with a master tier subscription? I appreciate the new things but as primarily a DM, I wont see them played by my players which is what id want for them.

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This is also why they don't want to enable content sharing: oh you want to have the same access to content as the rest of your table? Guess everyone has to sub now not just the GM.

 Or the DM could just manually add it to someone's character sheet. Or they could just duplicate it with D&D Beyond's homebrew creator.

 

I don't think creating mountains of additional work for DMs is a particularly useful subscription feature…

 I know. But, right now, those are unfortunately the only ways subscribers can share this stuff with those who don't have a subscription. :/

Wait, why can't I share these benefits with my friends??? We've been able to share everything else. I've bought every single book, every extra, and every small thing that adds character options so that my friends and I have access to everything. Why in the world would you start putting things behind a wall AND not let us who have them share???

Im sorry. Can we call this what it is? 

You're rebranding Subscriber Perks as Drops and making them go away when you unsub. 

I would love to see the maps.

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Quote from Caerwyn_Glyndwr >>

Since feedback was requested, I would like to express my support for the player-facing options being shared.  Player options are always at their best when the entire group has access, and the benefits here are so minor that they do not justify a subscription for a single character’s build (as one cannot use multiple options for g same character).

I would also like to note for the ranting posters on this thread.. Wizards already said “Our next step is simple: make Drops the program you want it to be. We’ll be listening, iterating, and shaping what comes next together with you. I can’t wait to see where we take it from here!”

They already invited feedback. A bunch of voices engaged in good faith feedback saying “here is why we think this should be shared” is a whole lot more effective than “how dare you Wizards!” posts drowning out the voices actually trying to get this matter to constructively change.

 Here's a crazy idea, hold on to your butts for this one:

You can say what you think should be changed and you can also say "how dare you Wizards!" at the same time. It's pretty understandable why people like myself are upset that player options, which are all 100% shareable, are now no longer shareable. At least not the concept that comes from these drops. Do I honestly have to blatantly spell it out that I think that they should not do this and instead make the content shareable? Pretty sure that's implied but here we are I guess LOL

This is obviously a negative for the customer because all of our content has been shareable up until this point. What's next? Do you have to buy a special pass along with a subscription to share content? Is the $60 a year no longer good enough to share content, are they going to start charging something like $20 a month instead to share all content?

 
Open Homebrew. Make copy of thing you want to share. Save. As long as you share homebrew and do not publish it, you solved your problem.

The reason ranting is ineffective is because, in reality, it is not a topic worth ranting about.  This is a minor annoyance at best, an you lose all credibility when you pretend it is a real problem.

I think this content should be shared - it would be vastly more convenient if it did so automatically.  But, in the end, it is a problem solved in some four clicks.  Anyone who is trying to turn it into some kind of grand conspiracy lacks credibility and therefore is a distraction from those of us who want to provide legitimate feedback. 

???? Your solution to a problem that didn't exist before is that the DM now has to manually create a Homebrew item for every single drop they release? Instead of just being able to share it as normal? Wotc created a problem, why does the consumer now have to solve it by paying money or doing extra work they didn't need to before?

This is absolutely a topic worth ranting about, why are you defending corporate decisions made to take your money and reduce the value of your dollar? That is absolute insanity. There is zero reason why content should not be shareable. Subscriber benefits before were personalized Cosmetics that you can apply to your character sheets and the master tier benefit is that everything you buy can be shared. They're Now setting a new precedent that some content can be shared in some cannot. Which is crazy and it's obviously a ploy to get more money from you. Which is bad?

I'll not be using content that is locked behind a subscription that I can't share with my players. I DM on alternate weeks with the same play group. It's unfair for me to have access to this without the other players despite me paying for my current subscription for compendium sharing. 

Blatant, greedy monetization disguised as extra content. Allow compendium sharing on these. 

Very nice! Awesome work from the team! :D 

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Since feedback was requested, I would like to express my support for the player-facing options being shared.  Player options are always at their best when the entire group has access, and the benefits here are so minor that they do not justify a subscription for a single character’s build (as one cannot use multiple options for g same character).

I would also like to note for the ranting posters on this thread.. Wizards already said “Our next step is simple: make Drops the program you want it to be. We’ll be listening, iterating, and shaping what comes next together with you. I can’t wait to see where we take it from here!”

They already invited feedback. A bunch of voices engaged in good faith feedback saying “here is why we think this should be shared” is a whole lot more effective than “how dare you Wizards!” posts drowning out the voices actually trying to get this matter to constructively change.

 Here's a crazy idea, hold on to your butts for this one:

You can say what you think should be changed and you can also say "how dare you Wizards!" at the same time. It's pretty understandable why people like myself are upset that player options, which are all 100% shareable, are now no longer shareable. At least not the concept that comes from these drops. Do I honestly have to blatantly spell it out that I think that they should not do this and instead make the content shareable? Pretty sure that's implied but here we are I guess LOL

This is obviously a negative for the customer because all of our content has been shareable up until this point. What's next? Do you have to buy a special pass along with a subscription to share content? Is the $60 a year no longer good enough to share content, are they going to start charging something like $20 a month instead to share all content?

 
Open Homebrew. Make copy of thing you want to share. Save. As long as you share homebrew and do not publish it, you solved your problem.

The reason ranting is ineffective is because, in reality, it is not a topic worth ranting about.  This is a minor annoyance at best, an you lose all credibility when you pretend it is a real problem.

I think this content should be shared - it would be vastly more convenient if it did so automatically.  But, in the end, it is a problem solved in some four clicks.  Anyone who is trying to turn it into some kind of grand conspiracy lacks credibility and therefore is a distraction from those of us who want to provide legitimate feedback. 

 

???? Your solution to a problem that didn't exist before is that the DM now has to manually create a Homebrew item for every single drop they release? Instead of just being able to share it as normal? Wotc created a problem, why does the consumer now have to solve it by paying money or doing extra work they didn't need to before?

This is absolutely a topic worth ranting about, why are you defending corporate decisions made to take your money and reduce the value of your dollar? That is absolute insanity. There is zero reason why content should not be shareable. Subscriber benefits before were personalized Cosmetics that you can apply to your character sheets and the master tier benefit is that everything you buy can be shared. They're Now setting a new precedent that some content can be shared in some cannot. Which is crazy and it's obviously a ploy to get more money from you. Which is bad?

 You start by assuming "share as normal" but the fairly obvious reality is that this is new content of a sort we have never seen before, and thus there is no baseline of what is "normal" for this type of content.  Wizards set the normal for this type of content, now it is on us to convince them it is worthwhile to change that normal.  You then veer into nonsensical territory when you move on to accuse me of defending a decision I have said multiple times should be changed.

I do not disagree with your goals - I disagree with your methods and the fact your misplaced aggression makes those of us who want the situation changed look bad, drowning out legitimate feedback that might be more effective.  You are hurting the cause by lashing out, even at those who would be your allies.  You, and others, should try acting like you are providing feedback instead of rants - otherwise you run the risk Wizards is going to take the same action I am about to... ignoring anything else you post on the assumption it will be more misplaced and groundless personal attacks.

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WOTC: Hey subscribers, here's a boatload of free stuff, just for you!

Comments section: wow guys, didn't realize you were so greedy. 

 Right? Oh no! Free perks for being a subscriber! How dare they! How dare they provide player options for DMS and DM options for players it's not as if someone might play and DM at the same time! Or take turns!

And how dare a business try to encourage people to subscribe to their service. Oh no! The price of a subscription for a whole year less than 20 cents a day.

And if you want to provide these things to your group without them having to subscribe, it's not like you can't spend 10 minutes copying it over in Homebrew creation. It's not rocket surgery.

This whole comment section is just proof that people will find reason to complain about anything no matter how awesome it is.

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Im sorry. Can we call this what it is? 

You're rebranding Subscriber Perks as Drops and making them go away when you unsub. 

 
Yea this also a tad concerning as well...

It's a nice bump to the content of the subscription, but to lose all of these different decorative options when we unsub is definitely a deceptive move since that was not clarified. Maybe you still keep what you earned while your subscription was active but you lose all the older content temporarily? But like, what about the character options then? Are they archived as an obtained perk that you keep when you leave or are those only tied to an active subscription. 

Hopefully they answer more in the AMA...

The article has FAQ that tells us that it works exactly how you want it not to work.

Either these drops are sharable, or my subscription disappears - I don't mind deleting characters and using the free tier of Beyond, or playing without it. I *do* mind having content gated off behind a master subscription that my friend who is willing to pay you guys can't share even if he wants to.  This is greedy, unreasonable nonsense. 

The Drop announcement should have a linked list of everything released so people can more easily find what was added.

Ehhhh... I dunno about putting actual player content behind subscriptions. VTT maps for the DM, I can understand, but content for players to use is another matter entirely. Will there be another way to get this content?

So... monthly untested homebrew with no playtesting phase?