I tried to install the app on my iPad, but when attempting to log on using Google credentials received the message that I had to give the app permission to track my activity across ALL WEBSITES. Why is this required? I'm a paid member and shouldn't have to cede permissions to have my information tracked and sold just to use the app. The point here is that I don't want it to track me. I shouldn't have to give permission to track just to use a D&D app. It's an egregious invasion of privacy.
Whenever an app is free, you’re not the customer, you’re the product.
Except in this case we're both. We're required to give up privacy to access the content we paid for.
Also, this was posted on the Feedback forum, but the thread was locked because it supposedly belongs here under bugs support. So the question is: is it A) really considered a bug that will be fixed, or B) intentional behavior, making the topic actually belong in the feedback forum after all (and then why was that thread locked)?
I will not allow this setting. I pay for this service and am not interested in sharing any private information. Google and Apple don’t get to track me. I’m sure some summer intern accidentally released a proposed feature that was never meant to go to production.
Whenever an app is free, you’re not the customer, you’re the product.
Except in this case we're both. We're required to give up privacy to access the content we paid for.
Technically not, no. We are absolutely capable of accessing that content without additional expense and sans tracking through the website. One is only required to give up their privacy for the convenience of using the free app. And as I said previously, any time an app is free, the user is the product. If they charged us to download or use the app, even just $1 at download, then we would be the app’s “customers.” Then we could tell them to stick their tracking up their noses and they’d have to listen. But as long as the app is free…. That’s how they getcha, see? That’s why I don’t download any apps I can avoid downloading, I refuse to be anyone’s product if I can at all avoid it.
Whenever an app is free, you’re not the customer, you’re the product.
Except in this case we're both. We're required to give up privacy to access the content we paid for.
Technically not, no. We are absolutely capable of accessing that content without additional expense and sans tracking through the website. One is only required to give up their privacy for the convenience of using the free app. And as I said previously, any time an app is free, the user is the product. If they charged us to download or use the app, even just $1 at download, then we would be the app’s “customers.” Then we could tell them to stick their tracking up their noses and they’d have to listen. But as long as the app is free…. That’s how they getcha, see? That’s why I don’t download any apps I can avoid downloading, I refuse to be anyone’s product if I can at all avoid it.
How can I legally access that purchased content offline on my phone without using the app?
Whenever an app is free, you’re not the customer, you’re the product.
Except in this case we're both. We're required to give up privacy to access the content we paid for.
Technically not, no. We are absolutely capable of accessing that content without additional expense and sans tracking through the website. One is only required to give up their privacy for the convenience of using the free app. And as I said previously, any time an app is free, the user is the product. If they charged us to download or use the app, even just $1 at download, then we would be the app’s “customers.” Then we could tell them to stick their tracking up their noses and they’d have to listen. But as long as the app is free…. That’s how they getcha, see? That’s why I don’t download any apps I can avoid downloading, I refuse to be anyone’s product if I can at all avoid it.
How can I legally access that purchased content offline on my phone without using the app?
You cannot. But DDB has since its inception always been an online tool. The app’s offline access is a supplemental “free” convenience, only as you have noted there is a price to be paid, and that price is tracking. If the app was part of a subscription, then it would be a paid service. If the app cost anything, even just a one time payment of a $1, then it would be a paid service. But it isn’t, and it doesn’t, so it’s not. Truth is anyone can use the app whether they have a subscription or have ever purchased anything here or not. It’s free to everyone. That means it’s not a paid service. And as I’ve said multiple times, if the app is free, then the user is the product. That’s the main reason why I don’t use the app, I just use the website, even from my phone. In fact I use my phone almost exclusively when on DDB, I just never use the app.
Then there still is the question of whether this is intentional behavior (making the feedback forum the appropriate place for discussion), or a bug (that needs to be fixed).
Some potentially useful information from that policy for those that do want to limit their ability to use the information gathered to send you ads.
App-Specific Technologies. You can reset your mobile Ad ID at any time through your device settings, which will allow you to limit the use of information collected about you. For information on how to do this on Apple devices, visit Apple.com or https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074. For information on how to do this on Android devices, visit Google.com. You can stop all collection of information via an app by uninstalling the app.
You may also limit our use of information collected from or about your mobile device for purposes of serving targeted ads to you by going to your device settings and selecting "Limit Ad Tracking" (for iOS devices) or "Opt-out of Interest-Based Ads" (for Android devices).
App / extension stores will have only a certain list of permissions to select from - sometimes you have to select more than what you want to track. I don't know if that's the case here or not but just for info.
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I tried to install the app on my iPad, but when attempting to log on using Google credentials received the message that I had to give the app permission to track my activity across ALL WEBSITES. Why is this required? I'm a paid member and shouldn't have to cede permissions to have my information tracked and sold just to use the app. The point here is that I don't want it to track me. I shouldn't have to give permission to track just to use a D&D app. It's an egregious invasion of privacy.
Whenever an app is free, you’re not the customer, you’re the product.
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Except in this case we're both. We're required to give up privacy to access the content we paid for.
Also, this was posted on the Feedback forum, but the thread was locked because it supposedly belongs here under bugs support. So the question is: is it A) really considered a bug that will be fixed, or B) intentional behavior, making the topic actually belong in the feedback forum after all (and then why was that thread locked)?
I will not allow this setting. I pay for this service and am not interested in sharing any private information. Google and Apple don’t get to track me.
I’m sure some summer intern accidentally released a proposed feature that was never meant to go to production.
This needs immediate attention.
Technically not, no. We are absolutely capable of accessing that content without additional expense and sans tracking through the website. One is only required to give up their privacy for the convenience of using the free app. And as I said previously, any time an app is free, the user is the product. If they charged us to download or use the app, even just $1 at download, then we would be the app’s “customers.” Then we could tell them to stick their tracking up their noses and they’d have to listen. But as long as the app is free…. That’s how they getcha, see? That’s why I don’t download any apps I can avoid downloading, I refuse to be anyone’s product if I can at all avoid it.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting
How can I legally access that purchased content offline on my phone without using the app?
You cannot. But DDB has since its inception always been an online tool. The app’s offline access is a supplemental “free” convenience, only as you have noted there is a price to be paid, and that price is tracking. If the app was part of a subscription, then it would be a paid service. If the app cost anything, even just a one time payment of a $1, then it would be a paid service. But it isn’t, and it doesn’t, so it’s not. Truth is anyone can use the app whether they have a subscription or have ever purchased anything here or not. It’s free to everyone. That means it’s not a paid service. And as I’ve said multiple times, if the app is free, then the user is the product. That’s the main reason why I don’t use the app, I just use the website, even from my phone. In fact I use my phone almost exclusively when on DDB, I just never use the app.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
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this is an insane answer, i just want my shit
Don’t shoot the messenger. I didn’t make things the way they are, I’m just the one tellin’ it the way it is. Beware of free apps.
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Then there still is the question of whether this is intentional behavior (making the feedback forum the appropriate place for discussion), or a bug (that needs to be fixed).
It’s intentional. If it wasn’t they would have fixed it by now.
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I wish this were the case across the whole site 😂.
Aside from that to the OP and others: https://company.wizards.com/en/legal/wizards-coasts-privacy-policy applies to their app and website. This is what they state they are actually collecting and using.
Some potentially useful information from that policy for those that do want to limit their ability to use the information gathered to send you ads.
You may also limit our use of information collected from or about your mobile device for purposes of serving targeted ads to you by going to your device settings and selecting "Limit Ad Tracking" (for iOS devices) or "Opt-out of Interest-Based Ads" (for Android devices).
App / extension stores will have only a certain list of permissions to select from - sometimes you have to select more than what you want to track. I don't know if that's the case here or not but just for info.