When you equip armor on a character that the character is not proficient in, they get disadvantage on ability checks related to Dexterity, and this is helpfully indicated next to related skills with a red D. However, initiative is a dexterity ability check too and there is no indication on the character sheet that they get disadvantage on initiative when equipping that armor. Just as a level 7 barbarian gets a small A next to their initiative to indicate advantage, can a red D be placed there when other Dexterity ability checks are marked as such?
I dont think it's an oversight, but a bug? within the system that isnt showing the Disadvantage within the system. I just went and checked such, since I tend to only use equip on a char that gets Adv to Init so never noticed such before.
However I just tested it on a wizard I have for testing my homebrew on and noticed that with a Dagger of Warning attuned on the char and dropped Chain Mail onto the char, the Advantage stayed in place.
It’s a limitation, not a bug. Stuff like this is handled through the use of something called “modifiers.” All of the Weapons of Warning have the following: “Modifier: Advantage->Subtype: Initiative” because they grant advantage to initiative rolls for everyone.
There is no “initiative” modifier subtype associated with the “disadvantage” modifier however. So it cannot apply a modifier that doesn’t exist.
Thenreaon it doesn’t exist is because the system has no way of only applying certain modifiers “sometimes,” or only to “some character sheets.” So even if that modifier subtype did exist, they couldn’t use it since, were they to add it to armor such as chain mail for example, then that would get applied to every PC equipped with that armor. No bueno.
However I just tested it on a wizard I have for testing my homebrew on and noticed that with a Dagger of Warning attuned on the char and dropped Chain Mail onto the char, the Advantage stayed in place.
Of course the Advantage would stay, it would just also display the Disadvantage as well. They both have to be tracked since a single instance of either cancels out an infinite number of the other.
When you equip armor on a character that the character is not proficient in, they get disadvantage on ability checks related to Dexterity, and this is helpfully indicated next to related skills with a red D. However, initiative is a dexterity ability check too and there is no indication on the character sheet that they get disadvantage on initiative when equipping that armor. Just as a level 7 barbarian gets a small A next to their initiative to indicate advantage, can a red D be placed there when other Dexterity ability checks are marked as such?
I dont think it's an oversight, but a bug? within the system that isnt showing the Disadvantage within the system. I just went and checked such, since I tend to only use equip on a char that gets Adv to Init so never noticed such before.
However I just tested it on a wizard I have for testing my homebrew on and noticed that with a Dagger of Warning attuned on the char and dropped Chain Mail onto the char, the Advantage stayed in place.
It’s a limitation, not a bug. Stuff like this is handled through the use of something called “modifiers.” All of the Weapons of Warning have the following: “Modifier: Advantage->Subtype: Initiative” because they grant advantage to initiative rolls for everyone.
There is no “initiative” modifier subtype associated with the “disadvantage” modifier however. So it cannot apply a modifier that doesn’t exist.
Thenreaon it doesn’t exist is because the system has no way of only applying certain modifiers “sometimes,” or only to “some character sheets.” So even if that modifier subtype did exist, they couldn’t use it since, were they to add it to armor such as chain mail for example, then that would get applied to every PC equipped with that armor. No bueno.
Of course the Advantage would stay, it would just also display the Disadvantage as well. They both have to be tracked since a single instance of either cancels out an infinite number of the other.
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