There is a missing chart for Blunderbuss and other like items.
In one of the books, it says Firearms are a new and volatile technology, and as such bring their own unique set of weapon properties. Some properties are followed by a number, and this number signifies an element of that property (outlined below). These properties replace the optional ones presented in the Dungeon Master’s Guide. Firearms are ranged weapons.
But it doesn't say which one. If it said which one, I could check the book. But I can't find it.
So either can we get a citation for the book, or get a complete entry.
Well there is the part of the description that says they are not from the DMG. And it won't show up on your character sheet if you have critical roll content turned off.
I dont know much about AL or what it has to do with your question.
What I am saying is that by looking at an AL adventure, how am I supposed to know that the Blunderbuss is from the Critical Role stuff? There is nothing on the page except what it's not from, DMG. Nothing about where it actually comes from.
What AL adventure? Most AL adventures aren't available here on DDB. Is the adventure in question something you are using/seeing here, or are you accessing it somewhere else?
It doesn't matter. There is an entry on DNDBeyond for the Blunderbuss. It's incomplete. It's a bug. This is the bug forum. I'm just reporting it. The fix is either to put the whole of the information on the Blunderbuss page or cite the source so one can find all the information, including the Reload amount.
It does matter: If there’s an adventure on DDB that references the blunderbuss, they need to know so they can figure out how to address it. But if it involves adventures that aren’t in DDB, and there’s no blunderbuss entry in any official source book, then it’s not a bug. For that matter, no blunderbuss reference in an AL adventure is going to mean the blunderbuss from the Critical Role material. I’m not even sure there are AL adventures that mention the blunderbuss or other firearms. I certainly haven’t come across any.
The blunderbuss is essentially homebrew (all CR content is). The blunderbuss, as well as the other half a dozen CR firearms should mention the gunslinger since that is where the chart is located. Having their reload, etc values listed in on the item's description would be helpful too.
I don't know about AL modules, but the blunderbuss would only be mentioned if it is a CR or homebrew campaign.
Thank you for identifying some AL modules that include the blunderbuss. I was/am not familiar with them. Do I understand you correctly that these modules do not include stats for the blunderbuss? Do they provide any guidance about where to find such stats? What I've been trying to say I doubt that any references in AL modules to a blunderbuss refer to Matt's version of the blunderbuss, which as DxJxC said is essentially homebrew. Matt's version of the blunderbuss is the only one found here.
That said, I now see that I got focused on your comments about AL modules and missed that the bug you reported is that the chart provided in the equipment listing says "reload" but does not include the "reload" number. I apologize for missing that. You are quite correct that it is a bug.
You are also correct that it would be very helpful if the equipment listings included a note about what source book the item is from. This is done with spells and monsters; I'm not sure why it isn't done with equipment. I checked a few official equipment items from various sources and they don't include any note about where they are from either.
You are also correct that it would be very helpful if the equipment listings included a note about what source book the item is from. This is done with spells and monsters; I'm not sure why it isn't done with equipment. I checked a few official equipment items from various sources and they don't include any note about where they are from either.
I never noticed that before. They should fix that.
Something else I noticed for the first time. The blunderbuss and the rest of the unofficial firearms aren't listed with equipment listing either.
And I googled the AL adventure you mentioned and found it on DMs Guild. (https://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/262080) I didn't see anything in the comments about CR content though.
Unfortunately equipment items (as opposed to magical items) are very simple and don't have the ability to tie them to a specific sourcebook.
I'm pretty confident that the upcoming source management system should update that and we'll be able to state which book each piece of equipment is from.
it's now Sept 2020 and imo this still hasn't been fixed I have a character and both Homebrew and CR content is turned off and yet the Blunderbus can still be added as a piece of equipment as if it is offical can we have some clarity on if this item has been made offcial by Wizards and the D&D team or if this is still the item related to the MM Gunslinger Class.
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There is a missing chart for Blunderbuss and other like items.
In one of the books, it says
Firearms are a new and volatile technology, and as such bring their own unique set of weapon properties. Some properties are followed by a number, and this number signifies an element of that property (outlined below). These properties replace the optional ones presented in the Dungeon Master’s Guide. Firearms are ranged weapons.
But it doesn't say which one. If it said which one, I could check the book. But I can't find it.
So either can we get a citation for the book, or get a complete entry.
I need to know the Reload number.
Found it under Gunslinger finally.
My post above still stands.
So either can we get a citation for the book, or get a complete entry.
The blunderbuss is not a firearm from the DMG, it is a critical roll weapon added for the CR gunslinger subclass.
It is assumed (required) that you would see the gunslinger class first before looking up the weapon.
But if I search blunderbuss, from an AL adventure, I don't know that. All I'm looking for is a citation or a complete entry.
Well there is the part of the description that says they are not from the DMG. And it won't show up on your character sheet if you have critical roll content turned off.
I dont know much about AL or what it has to do with your question.
What I am saying is that by looking at an AL adventure, how am I supposed to know that the Blunderbuss is from the Critical Role stuff?
There is nothing on the page except what it's not from, DMG. Nothing about where it actually comes from.
What AL adventure? Most AL adventures aren't available here on DDB. Is the adventure in question something you are using/seeing here, or are you accessing it somewhere else?
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It doesn't matter.
There is an entry on DNDBeyond for the Blunderbuss. It's incomplete. It's a bug. This is the bug forum. I'm just reporting it.
The fix is either to put the whole of the information on the Blunderbuss page or cite the source so one can find all the information, including the Reload amount.
It does matter: If there’s an adventure on DDB that references the blunderbuss, they need to know so they can figure out how to address it. But if it involves adventures that aren’t in DDB, and there’s no blunderbuss entry in any official source book, then it’s not a bug. For that matter, no blunderbuss reference in an AL adventure is going to mean the blunderbuss from the Critical Role material. I’m not even sure there are AL adventures that mention the blunderbuss or other firearms. I certainly haven’t come across any.
Trying to Decide if DDB is for you? A few helpful threads: A Buyer's Guide to DDB; What I/We Bought and Why; How some DMs use DDB; A Newer Thread on Using DDB to Play
Helpful threads on other topics: Homebrew FAQ by IamSposta; Accessing Content by ConalTheGreat;
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There is an entry. Please read what I've written.
This wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't an entry but there is.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/search?q=blunderbuss
It's an incomplete entry. That's a bug.
Also, please don't correct me about the AL adventure. Moon 1-1 has it. And Moon 2-1 references it.
The blunderbuss is essentially homebrew (all CR content is). The blunderbuss, as well as the other half a dozen CR firearms should mention the gunslinger since that is where the chart is located. Having their reload, etc values listed in on the item's description would be helpful too.
I don't know about AL modules, but the blunderbuss would only be mentioned if it is a CR or homebrew campaign.
Thank you for identifying some AL modules that include the blunderbuss. I was/am not familiar with them. Do I understand you correctly that these modules do not include stats for the blunderbuss? Do they provide any guidance about where to find such stats? What I've been trying to say I doubt that any references in AL modules to a blunderbuss refer to Matt's version of the blunderbuss, which as DxJxC said is essentially homebrew. Matt's version of the blunderbuss is the only one found here.
That said, I now see that I got focused on your comments about AL modules and missed that the bug you reported is that the chart provided in the equipment listing says "reload" but does not include the "reload" number. I apologize for missing that. You are quite correct that it is a bug.
You are also correct that it would be very helpful if the equipment listings included a note about what source book the item is from. This is done with spells and monsters; I'm not sure why it isn't done with equipment. I checked a few official equipment items from various sources and they don't include any note about where they are from either.
Trying to Decide if DDB is for you? A few helpful threads: A Buyer's Guide to DDB; What I/We Bought and Why; How some DMs use DDB; A Newer Thread on Using DDB to Play
Helpful threads on other topics: Homebrew FAQ by IamSposta; Accessing Content by ConalTheGreat;
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I never noticed that before. They should fix that.
Something else I noticed for the first time. The blunderbuss and the rest of the unofficial firearms aren't listed with equipment listing either.
And I googled the AL adventure you mentioned and found it on DMs Guild. (https://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/262080) I didn't see anything in the comments about CR content though.
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I'm pretty confident that the upcoming source management system should update that and we'll be able to state which book each piece of equipment is from.
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That's all I'm asking for. This is the bug forum and I reported a bug.
Thank you.
it's now Sept 2020 and imo this still hasn't been fixed I have a character and both Homebrew and CR content is turned off and yet the Blunderbus can still be added as a piece of equipment as if it is offical can we have some clarity on if this item has been made offcial by Wizards and the D&D team or if this is still the item related to the MM Gunslinger Class.