I'm trying to add a downloaded homebrew subclass that another user made, but it won't show up. My account says everything is synced, I have legacy and homebrew selections on in the character builder. I saw people on here saying to use the 2014 versions of whatever base class you need, but when I try to use the 2014 version of the class, there's no option to even add a subclass, no matter the character level. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
The 2014 classes do all give a subclass choice somewhere between levels 1-3. That choice will show up as a class feature just like the 2024 classes. However, they all use different names for their subclasses, like 2014 Barbarian’s “Primal Path” vs. 2024’s “Barbarian Subclass”.
The easiest way to ensure you’ve selected the right class is to check the icon shown at the top of that subclass’s page, and then find the matching one in the character builder.
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Why are we unable to use the 2014 subclasses with the 2024 classes? If some content is SRD and some content we own, then let us use the content we own. I actually think that it might be a violation of the license to not allow this.
Why are we unable to use the 2014 subclasses with the 2024 classes? If some content is SRD and some content we own, then let us use the content we own. I actually think that it might be a violation of the license to not allow this.
You can use 2014 subclasses with 2024 classes, if those subclasses haven't yet been updated with a 2024 version. If there's an updated 2024 version of the subclass, you need to use that instead, per the official rules. If you don't want to follow that rule, you can use D&D Beyond's homebrew tools to make a copy of the 2014 subclass for the 2024 class. You can also still use the 2014 subclasses with the 2014 classes just fine.
No one's stopping you from using content you own, and no one is violating any licenses. The SRD has nothing to do with any of this.
Its just crazy that that's the way to do that instead of it just being implemented. like if it just worked i think y'all would likely save money even on all the time spent troubleshooting and responding to the same threads over and over again tbh.
I get why it is a thing, but just having them as an option under legacy like everything else works seems like a better solution imo.
Sorry, I am just salty over this. This is the third time I've had a player confused over this and had to remake their character because of it, and honestly im just sick of it and wish it worked intuitively.
Its just crazy that that's the way to do that instead of it just being implemented. like if it just worked i think y'all would likely save money even on all the time spent troubleshooting and responding to the same threads over and over again tbh.
I get why it is a thing, but just having them as an option under legacy like everything else works seems like a better solution imo.
Sorry, I am just salty over this. This is the third time I've had a player confused over this and had to remake their character because of it, and honestly im just sick of it and wish it worked intuitively.
D&D Beyond is a toolset built to follow the rules, not allow anything and everything under the sun. And for anyone who read the rules, it IS intuitive.
Sorry, I am just salty over this. This is the third time I've had a player confused over this and had to remake their character because of it, and honestly im just sick of it and wish it worked intuitively.
Just to clarify: you're saying that this is the third time you've had a player want to use a 2024 class, but use the old 2014 version of a subclass for it instead of the 2024 version of the subclass? I want to understand because there may be a better way to approach this. Is there some specific reason so many people want to do it this way, instead of just using the 2024 subclass?
Yes. because so many people own the 2014 rules, but not the 2024 PHB. which means they have access to the 2025 versions of the classes from the srd, but not the 2024 subclasses, so they'd like to use the 2014 subclasses.
it is CRAZY common where I'm at because we get a lot of people who have a lot of 2014.content, enjoy 2024, but can't afford to upgrade right now, and I can't always afford the membership for content sharing. when I can it isn't an issue. so.it ends up being this cost gap thing.
Yes. because so many people own the 2014 rules, but not the 2024 PHB. which means they have access to the 2025 versions of the classes from the srd, but not the 2024 subclasses, so they'd like to use the 2014 subclasses.
it is CRAZY common where I'm at because we get a lot of people who have a lot of 2014.content, enjoy 2024, but can't afford to upgrade right now, and I can't always afford the membership for content sharing. when I can it isn't an issue. so.it ends up being this cost gap thing.
It may also be worth pointing out that it does not have to be you who has a subscription; anyone in the campaign who has a subscription can enable content sharing, and then everything that anyone in the group owns gets shared with everyone. Only one person in the group needs to have a subscription, only one person needs to own the 5.5e subclasses, and those don't have to be the same person and neither has to be you.
(Just FYI, the SRD is a separate, unrelated thing; what you're referring to is the free Basic Rules product that everyone on D&D Beyond has access to.)
Yes. because so many people own the 2014 rules, but not the 2024 PHB. which means they have access to the 2025 versions of the classes from the srd, but not the 2024 subclasses, so they'd like to use the 2014 subclasses.
it is CRAZY common where I'm at because we get a lot of people who have a lot of 2014.content, enjoy 2024, but can't afford to upgrade right now, and I can't always afford the membership for content sharing. when I can it isn't an issue. so.it ends up being this cost gap thing.
It may also be worth pointing out that it does not have to be you who has a subscription; anyone in the campaign who has a subscription can enable content sharing, and then everything that anyone in the group owns gets shared with everyone. Only one person in the group needs to have a subscription, only one person needs to own the 5.5e subclasses, and those don't have to be the same person and neither has to be you.
(Just FYI, the SRD is a separate, unrelated thing; what you're referring to is the free Basic Rules product that everyone on D&D Beyond has access to.)
That's a great point, I'm REALLY hoping it doesn't change in the future as I'm in a campaign with 20+ people that allows all rules, otherwise I wouldn't be using this site for any character building.
Sure, yeah, the Basic rules, sorry. Just shorthand, and its a distinction that mostly matters on DDB, but it does matter. Apologies. Noone else in the group really has sub money either tbh regularly, but I will broach that with the group. I am working on updating everyone to 5.5 slowly, it just is basically a class issue which is frustrating that either I make homebrew versions of all the subclasses, spend money, or have to constantly troubleshoot instead of it working in the way that I really think it should intuitively work.
I see the good and bad reasons for why it works this way, I just wish that we had more control over whether this was an option even. being completely blocked out(without the extra work) of it is extremely frustrating.
Not the solution you’re looking for, I know, but your players might be interested in the class starter packs here. $5 for three subclasses plus some other goodies. Buying one also gets you $5 off the PHB (once) if you want to upgrade to the full book later. https://marketplace.dndbeyond.com/search?q=Starter pack&sort=product-name-AZ
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I'm trying to add a downloaded homebrew subclass that another user made, but it won't show up. My account says everything is synced, I have legacy and homebrew selections on in the character builder. I saw people on here saying to use the 2014 versions of whatever base class you need, but when I try to use the 2014 version of the class, there's no option to even add a subclass, no matter the character level. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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ModeratorThe 2014 classes do all give a subclass choice somewhere between levels 1-3. That choice will show up as a class feature just like the 2024 classes. However, they all use different names for their subclasses, like 2014 Barbarian’s “Primal Path” vs. 2024’s “Barbarian Subclass”.
The easiest way to ensure you’ve selected the right class is to check the icon shown at the top of that subclass’s page, and then find the matching one in the character builder.
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Why are we unable to use the 2014 subclasses with the 2024 classes? If some content is SRD and some content we own, then let us use the content we own. I actually think that it might be a violation of the license to not allow this.
You can use 2014 subclasses with 2024 classes, if those subclasses haven't yet been updated with a 2024 version. If there's an updated 2024 version of the subclass, you need to use that instead, per the official rules. If you don't want to follow that rule, you can use D&D Beyond's homebrew tools to make a copy of the 2014 subclass for the 2024 class. You can also still use the 2014 subclasses with the 2014 classes just fine.
No one's stopping you from using content you own, and no one is violating any licenses. The SRD has nothing to do with any of this.
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Its just crazy that that's the way to do that instead of it just being implemented. like if it just worked i think y'all would likely save money even on all the time spent troubleshooting and responding to the same threads over and over again tbh.
I get why it is a thing, but just having them as an option under legacy like everything else works seems like a better solution imo.
Sorry, I am just salty over this. This is the third time I've had a player confused over this and had to remake their character because of it, and honestly im just sick of it and wish it worked intuitively.
D&D Beyond is a toolset built to follow the rules, not allow anything and everything under the sun. And for anyone who read the rules, it IS intuitive.
Just to clarify: you're saying that this is the third time you've had a player want to use a 2024 class, but use the old 2014 version of a subclass for it instead of the 2024 version of the subclass? I want to understand because there may be a better way to approach this. Is there some specific reason so many people want to do it this way, instead of just using the 2024 subclass?
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Yes. because so many people own the 2014 rules, but not the 2024 PHB. which means they have access to the 2025 versions of the classes from the srd, but not the 2024 subclasses, so they'd like to use the 2014 subclasses.
it is CRAZY common where I'm at because we get a lot of people who have a lot of 2014.content, enjoy 2024, but can't afford to upgrade right now, and I can't always afford the membership for content sharing. when I can it isn't an issue. so.it ends up being this cost gap thing.
It may also be worth pointing out that it does not have to be you who has a subscription; anyone in the campaign who has a subscription can enable content sharing, and then everything that anyone in the group owns gets shared with everyone. Only one person in the group needs to have a subscription, only one person needs to own the 5.5e subclasses, and those don't have to be the same person and neither has to be you.
(Just FYI, the SRD is a separate, unrelated thing; what you're referring to is the free Basic Rules product that everyone on D&D Beyond has access to.)
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That's a great point, I'm REALLY hoping it doesn't change in the future as I'm in a campaign with 20+ people that allows all rules, otherwise I wouldn't be using this site for any character building.
Sure, yeah, the Basic rules, sorry. Just shorthand, and its a distinction that mostly matters on DDB, but it does matter. Apologies. Noone else in the group really has sub money either tbh regularly, but I will broach that with the group. I am working on updating everyone to 5.5 slowly, it just is basically a class issue which is frustrating that either I make homebrew versions of all the subclasses, spend money, or have to constantly troubleshoot instead of it working in the way that I really think it should intuitively work.
I see the good and bad reasons for why it works this way, I just wish that we had more control over whether this was an option even. being completely blocked out(without the extra work) of it is extremely frustrating.
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ModeratorNot the solution you’re looking for, I know, but your players might be interested in the class starter packs here. $5 for three subclasses plus some other goodies. Buying one also gets you $5 off the PHB (once) if you want to upgrade to the full book later.
https://marketplace.dndbeyond.com/search?q=Starter pack&sort=product-name-AZ
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