The text in the "Saving Throws" box for characters with the Shield Master feat are not properly parsing the bonus from your equipped shield. Instead, the text appears as such:
"0on DEXWhen not incapacitated, you add your shield's AC bonus to DEX saving throws against a spell or other harmful effect that targets only you."
Yup, I see it - it's a little odd, but is technically correct.
The shield master feat grants a +0 bonus to DEX saves, however if you have a shield equipped, you can add the AC bonus of the shield as well. The tooltip explains it better.
I agree though that the text being displayed could do with being a bit more explanatory.
I feel like something is getting lost in translation here, Stormknight. The issue has nothing to do with the tool tip. The issue is, when a shield is equipped, the saving throw bonus text should read at least as a +2. As is, that +0 doesn’t budge, regardless of a shield being equipped. This is definitely a bug.
For the record, I am unsure what approach I prefer personally. I can see why it works the way it does, as the +2 is only in certain circumstances, but it could definitely be clearer and I can see that the +0 can be confusing.
I feel like something is getting lost in translation here, Stormknight. The issue has nothing to do with the tool tip. The issue is, when a shield is equipped, the saving throw bonus text should read at least as a +2. As is, that +0 doesn’t budge, regardless of a shield being equipped. This is definitely a bug.
As a major proponent of the Shield Master feat, I concur that this is not working as we would want it to work. It certainly is working as the default system would indicate it should, but this is an exception that we would like to handle better.
It's been added to the list to address - thanks for pointing it out to us. We haven't heard the feedback before (for some reason people don't use the feat that much...which I personally don't understand =D).
When this does get addressed, would it be possible to include the bonus from magic shields in the description (eg. a +2 shield would calculate a +4 to DEX saves in the description)?
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The text in the "Saving Throws" box for characters with the Shield Master feat are not properly parsing the bonus from your equipped shield. Instead, the text appears as such:
"0on DEXWhen not incapacitated, you add your shield's AC bonus to DEX saving throws against a spell or other harmful effect that targets only you."
Any feedback from the mods/staff?
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D&D Beyond FoundersYup, I see it - it's a little odd, but is technically correct.
The shield master feat grants a +0 bonus to DEX saves, however if you have a shield equipped, you can add the AC bonus of the shield as well. The tooltip explains it better.
I agree though that the text being displayed could do with being a bit more explanatory.
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I see this even with a shield equipped though...
Still broken and unconfirmed as a bug. Sorry to keep bumping, but this is a decent sized bug in the system.
same problem with the shield master feat.
why does this bug still exist?
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D&D Beyond FoundersIt's not technically a bug - it's working the way that it was designed to work.
As mentioned in my post above, if you hover your mouse over the text, it displays a tooltip that tells you what you need to know.
Are you expecting to see the value of the AC for the equipped shield in the box?
For example, a regular shield would show +2 bonus?
I believe that what we're discussing is a request to make it work differently, as you feel the current method is not as intuitive as it should be.
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I was expecting to see the AC bonus of the shield.
And even if it was meant to be so, why is there no spacing between the 0 and the "on"?
If it's working as intended, then the intention was flawed.
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I feel like something is getting lost in translation here, Stormknight. The issue has nothing to do with the tool tip. The issue is, when a shield is equipped, the saving throw bonus text should read at least as a +2. As is, that +0 doesn’t budge, regardless of a shield being equipped. This is definitely a bug.
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D&D Beyond FoundersI think it's just a different view on design.
For the record, I am unsure what approach I prefer personally. I can see why it works the way it does, as the +2 is only in certain circumstances, but it could definitely be clearer and I can see that the +0 can be confusing.
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D&D Beyond FoundersAs a major proponent of the Shield Master feat, I concur that this is not working as we would want it to work. It certainly is working as the default system would indicate it should, but this is an exception that we would like to handle better.
It's been added to the list to address - thanks for pointing it out to us. We haven't heard the feedback before (for some reason people don't use the feat that much...which I personally don't understand =D).
Thanks!
People don't use it because Crawford errated his own ruling on it so that you can't bonus action prone before your attacks.
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When this does get addressed, would it be possible to include the bonus from magic shields in the description (eg. a +2 shield would calculate a +4 to DEX saves in the description)?