My players were already struggling with using D&D Beyond and now this happens. The Legacy toggle is great but let's also offer a toggle to turn off 2024 content for those of us in the middle of a campaign using only 2014 content. Please!
+1 to this thread, it drives me absolutely insane trying to read up my spells and having to slog through the 2024 BS I never asked for or wanted in the first place. It feels like they're specifically trying to annoy us enough that we give in and spend even more money on books and swap to the new stuff. This site was far far better before it was sold to WotC.
Where did my Cantrips/Spells go??? Yesterday I had a cleric that had Toll the Dead and today when I went in to create a new Cleric, that wonderful cantrip is gone! I can't even tell you how frustrated I am and I've barely started delving into the new changes.
I've been paying every month for 6 years..... guess we'll see how much longer that happens
I have a slightly different but related problem that I can't see any solution or mention of anywhere. I've made a 2024 wizard, but don't have access to any legacy spells even if I have legacy content turned on for the character. Clearly they wouldn't want you to mix and match in that way, but I don't want them dictating what I can and can't do in my own campaign. Anybody seen any solution or reason for that to occur?
I have a slightly different but related problem that I can't see any solution or mention of anywhere. I've made a 2024 wizard, but don't have access to any legacy spells even if I have legacy content turned on for the character. Clearly they wouldn't want you to mix and match in that way, but I don't want them dictating what I can and can't do in my own campaign. Anybody seen any solution or reason for that to occur?
Plain and simple, the 2024 classes can only access the 2024 spells (of those that were updated, not including those in other books that didn't get into the PHB).
Only solution is to homebrew the old spells and add the new versions of the classes.
Multiple subclasses no longer function properly with the 2024 PHB. Oath of Glory's Inspiring Smite Channel Divinity, for example, is functionally unusable by the new rules for Divine Smite.
I don't care if you are all exited about your new 2024 content, heck, I have purchased it. But I have also, at considerable expense paid for the 2014 content on this site. And my current, [and potential future] campaigns are and will be using it.
As I have paid for it I want to continue using it.
If you don't let me, I will be demanding my money back with added lawers.
Multiple subclasses no longer function properly with the 2024 PHB. Oath of Glory's Inspiring Smite Channel Divinity, for example, is functionally unusable by the new rules for Divine Smite.
They updated oath of glory. You can use old glory with old paladin, or new glory with new paladin, and it's fine.
(Also, it works fine if you read the trigger as now being "cast divine smite".)
Aside from Shepherd Druid, I'm unaware of any subclasses that actually don't work.
I don't care if you are all exited about your new 2024 content, heck, I have purchased it. But I have also, at considerable expense paid for the 2014 content on this site. And my current, [and potential future] campaigns are and will be using it.
As I have paid for it I want to continue using it.
If you don't let me, I will be demanding my money back with added lawers.
Add a toggle. It is that simple.
All of your 2014 options are still present. That's what the big fight was about. The builder now has a Legacy toggle that allows you to use the content in full. All that's been "taken" is the tooltips. While inconvenient, that's rules info, not builder-necessary to get a character right.
New 2024 classes have no access to homebrew spells and that is such a let down. They appear just fine for Legacy classes, but not for the new ones. Who thought that was a good idea?
The systen treats 5.0 and 5.5 classes as totally seoarate on the backend. So just like a Cleric wouldn't have access to Rangervhomebrew spells, a 5.5 Cleric won't have access to 5.0 Cleric homebrew spells.
You can fix the issue by editing your homebrew spells to include the 5.5 classes.
I just sent several complaints to the company about it. I sincerely doubt anyone cares. WHERE IS ALL THE OUTRAGE ON THE INTERNET ABOUT THIS? WHERE IS THE SOCIAL MEDIA PRESSURE?! THIS is actually something worth being pissed and worth boycotting D&D Beyond/Fandom/WoTC over. And yet, not a peep.
Agreed. Let's re-open this. There needs to be a way to filter out 2024 rules. Filtering by Legacy tag is not a solution- toggling Legacy on in character creation means you see both, it doesn't turn off the 2024 rules. Filtering by Legacy in the spells list doesn't solve the problem, because it's inconsistent- if a spell exists in both versions there will be a Legacy tag on the old one, but if it doesn't exist at all in the new rules (like Absorb Elements), there no Legacy tag. I am well aware that Hasbro is doing this to try and push people towards 2024 rules by making the old ones inaccessible (despite their promises of "backwards compatibility", which was clearly a lie from the start), but no amount of this garbage will make me buy the new books. People who like the new rules will buy them, and people who don't will cancel their subscriptions. I won't be renewing my Master tier subscription until this is fixed.
I've started actively pushing my players to build character sheets on another website or use paper. I run 5e, not 5.24 and I've seen four players fail to successfully make 5e characters due to the way Beyond handles the 5.24 ruleset.
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My players were already struggling with using D&D Beyond and now this happens. The Legacy toggle is great but let's also offer a toggle to turn off 2024 content for those of us in the middle of a campaign using only 2014 content. Please!
+1 to this thread, it drives me absolutely insane trying to read up my spells and having to slog through the 2024 BS I never asked for or wanted in the first place. It feels like they're specifically trying to annoy us enough that we give in and spend even more money on books and swap to the new stuff. This site was far far better before it was sold to WotC.
Where did my Cantrips/Spells go??? Yesterday I had a cleric that had Toll the Dead and today when I went in to create a new Cleric, that wonderful cantrip is gone! I can't even tell you how frustrated I am and I've barely started delving into the new changes.
I've been paying every month for 6 years..... guess we'll see how much longer that happens
I have a slightly different but related problem that I can't see any solution or mention of anywhere. I've made a 2024 wizard, but don't have access to any legacy spells even if I have legacy content turned on for the character. Clearly they wouldn't want you to mix and match in that way, but I don't want them dictating what I can and can't do in my own campaign. Anybody seen any solution or reason for that to occur?
Plain and simple, the 2024 classes can only access the 2024 spells (of those that were updated, not including those in other books that didn't get into the PHB).
Only solution is to homebrew the old spells and add the new versions of the classes.
Multiple subclasses no longer function properly with the 2024 PHB. Oath of Glory's Inspiring Smite Channel Divinity, for example, is functionally unusable by the new rules for Divine Smite.
Look, It is quite simple.
I don't care if you are all exited about your new 2024 content, heck, I have purchased it. But I have also, at considerable expense paid for the 2014 content on this site.
And my current, [and potential future] campaigns are and will be using it.
As I have paid for it I want to continue using it.
If you don't let me, I will be demanding my money back with added lawers.
Add a toggle. It is that simple.
They updated oath of glory. You can use old glory with old paladin, or new glory with new paladin, and it's fine.
(Also, it works fine if you read the trigger as now being "cast divine smite".)
Aside from Shepherd Druid, I'm unaware of any subclasses that actually don't work.
All of your 2014 options are still present. That's what the big fight was about. The builder now has a Legacy toggle that allows you to use the content in full. All that's been "taken" is the tooltips. While inconvenient, that's rules info, not builder-necessary to get a character right.
New 2024 classes have no access to homebrew spells and that is such a let down. They appear just fine for Legacy classes, but not for the new ones. Who thought that was a good idea?
Wisdom in Light, through Truth under Grace.
The systen treats 5.0 and 5.5 classes as totally seoarate on the backend. So just like a Cleric wouldn't have access to Rangervhomebrew spells, a 5.5 Cleric won't have access to 5.0 Cleric homebrew spells.
You can fix the issue by editing your homebrew spells to include the 5.5 classes.
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That is incredibly dumb and unnecessarily tedious. I have over 200 spells I have to go re-work.
Wisdom in Light, through Truth under Grace.
I just sent several complaints to the company about it. I sincerely doubt anyone cares. WHERE IS ALL THE OUTRAGE ON THE INTERNET ABOUT THIS? WHERE IS THE SOCIAL MEDIA PRESSURE?! THIS is actually something worth being pissed and worth boycotting D&D Beyond/Fandom/WoTC over. And yet, not a peep.
Agreed. Let's re-open this. There needs to be a way to filter out 2024 rules. Filtering by Legacy tag is not a solution- toggling Legacy on in character creation means you see both, it doesn't turn off the 2024 rules. Filtering by Legacy in the spells list doesn't solve the problem, because it's inconsistent- if a spell exists in both versions there will be a Legacy tag on the old one, but if it doesn't exist at all in the new rules (like Absorb Elements), there no Legacy tag. I am well aware that Hasbro is doing this to try and push people towards 2024 rules by making the old ones inaccessible (despite their promises of "backwards compatibility", which was clearly a lie from the start), but no amount of this garbage will make me buy the new books. People who like the new rules will buy them, and people who don't will cancel their subscriptions. I won't be renewing my Master tier subscription until this is fixed.
I've started actively pushing my players to build character sheets on another website or use paper. I run 5e, not 5.24 and I've seen four players fail to successfully make 5e characters due to the way Beyond handles the 5.24 ruleset.