If they have the law on their site, then yeah. The only thing people can do, is what they did when they tried to change the OGL in 2023. Have them lose money

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One of my groups just built new characters for a new campaign yesterday (the first since the 2024 content has been added to the site) and it's an absolute nightmare. I haven't paid for the 2024 content, yet it completely floods everything with no way to properly filter it out without having to manually select all of the content I DO own (which is a LOT) and we had several people at the table struggling to wade through the confusing duplicates and legacy tags. 

What used to be one of the most user friendly and newbie friendly ways to learn d&d (for our group and the 4+ tables we've taught to play using dndbeyond) is now a sloppy cluster of mixed up content that we can't turn off. Every other type of content has a filter to disable and every other type of free content has been optional. 2024 rules have no way to be turned off and the free content was added to my account regardless of whether or not we wanted to use it. It's infuriating to have so much money in content here and to have several tables used to using this site only for it to be a nearly unusable mess.

As our groups begin to wrap campaigns, I hope we can start switching back to pen and paper sheets as a group unless dndbeyond actually begins to pay attention to what their users actually want.

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  And by the looks of things, my suspicion is that 2014 content is getting wiped out of the toolset. And the only reason they stopped was because of the threat of another walkoff.

   People are still willing to give them one more chance, now will Beyond and WotC listen?

  Or, do people really do have to begin walking off for the company to understand all that the users want is to continue to use the “digital” toolset content they legally purchased, and the company had agreed to allow use of said content till such time as the company deemed it necessary to inform users that the purchased content would no longer be available.

 ( not too sure about you, but I discovered the switch only by keeping an eye on the forums. No emails, no announcements, no idea till one day, holy cow. )

To address some of the points:

1. They cannot legally remove the digital books from the website without announcing it and providing PDFs to download before it goes.  There's a provision about legal backup copies.
2.  Hasbro doesn't want to sell 2014 stuff, and wants everyone to move to 2024.  That's inevitable and for the most part, it seems like the majority of groups intend to "in the future".  So they're not producing more 2014 books etc.
3. Walking off is likely the only way to make them take notice, in terms of cancelling subscriptions even if you keep using the service.  Subscribers are what count to them.
4. Regarding the 2014 Core Rules button that turned up, it was posted in the Changelog in November.  Everything is in the changelog.  It's always posted in the changelog, and that's what people need to pay attention to.  Its the button next to Notifications. 

Let's keep things on topic here. Like how much we all agree there needs to be a toggle to turn off the 2024 content in builder. Don't detract from the main topic of the toggle by trying to add in other factors that aren't involved with the toggle. The toggle is what we want and need to hide the duplicate information for character builders and campaigns. 

Agreed - I'm on the verge of swapping to pen and paper trying to build characters for a one-shot. I don't have access to all of my 2014 shared content even when trying to build from scratch. Please let us disable 2024 content and actually access the content we've already paid for. 

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Agreed - I'm on the verge of swapping to pen and paper trying to build characters for a one-shot. I don't have access to all of my 2014 shared content even when trying to build from scratch. Please let us disable 2024 content and actually access the content we've already paid for. 

You can access all the 2014 content. 

Since it's shared with you, are you making characters in the campaign where it's being shared?

Are your entitlements synced?

Are all the toggles in the character builder on?

Are you using the 2014 classes?

I'd like to cast my vote for a "Disable 2024." I bought the bundle/physical of the 2024 books, so I do plan to use them.

However, I want to wrap up all of my current games using only the 2014 rules, since quite a few of the spells and feats, and even classes are different in the 2024 set.

So for example, I am having a player change his character (new race & class) in my campaign - and he didn't realize it, but he made a 2024 version.

So I had to tell him to delete it, scroll down when selecting the class and select the 2014 version - and to make sure not to pick any spells or feats that are 2024.

So being able to disable the 2024 would be ideal. I'd hoped this would be "selectable" when I got into this. As others have said, the ability to disable it would be greatly beneficial.

Again, I do plan on using 2024 - but I'd like to wrap up all of my 2014 games first, before cutting over so that everything is on the same playing level.

Thanks for your time and hopeful consideration.

ToS is one thing. The law is another. Have in mind, some of the laws in Europe are different than the onces in America. We are more protected in Europe. I think it's because of European laws, that has done. so when you buy game, you are buying a license to the game. Not the game

While you're allowed to make some backup copies for safety, you're not permitted to copy anything beyond that.

We're also allowed to make backups of the digital book we purchased, but that doesn't extend to the functionality that's implicit in our intentions when purchasing, but not explicitly licensed to us.

Hey, it looks like they let me back on here!  Don't worry, I'm sure I will transgress again, and be banished...again.

Most on this thread have been trumpeting support for the original sentiment - others have been disagreeing with us.  The name of the thread is: I really need a "disable 2024 completely" button for a campaign or character.  Simple statement.  For?  Or against?  It seems like there would be no need for four long paragraphs in your response.  Rather, just say Hazzah!  or, I don't need or want a button.  And be done with it.

But since extraneous rhetoric is the de rigueur, I will mention that technically AND in spirit, Wizards is not doing anything wrong (other than creating a new edition as a money grab that was not needed and moved the smoothness of the rules backward)  It is is Beyond that dropped the ball.  I'm fine with Wizards running out Edition 9 four years from now.  Edition your little hearts out - so long as 2014 edition is still usable on Beyond.  

There are some...a..."users" who persist that 2014 is perfectly fine on beyond - it is only our stupidity that prevents us from using it.  But then they say a button is a good idea.  Hmmm.  

Oh, yeah - go ahead and banish me for accusing other posters of calling me stupid.  Or calling wizards money grabbing.  

Does anyone have suggestions for a non-DND Beyond character building tool?  I can manually create a character sheet, but DNDB's automation has historically been more convenient - up until about 4 months ago.

I haven't tried it yet but Roll20 seems to be a recommended one. The only draw back is buying books again.

Now is the best time to start buying the 5e books second hand. I've been getting them from CEX so I don't need to worry about some much needed toggle when making my characters. This mash-up of rules is hoping that people switch to the 5.5e, but it's turned me off entirely from it instead. It's invasive and I just want to play my 2014 campaign without issues that I'm having to instead fight with just to make characters.

The current state of DDB is not bad, the "Legacy" tag is there, but as a DM I'd really like to be able to restrict the Campaign to just "Legacy" content. A legacy compliant flag for characters would also be useful. So I can see if my players characters are using the correct ruleset. A report of "exceptions" would also be helpful. Would still be nice to be have a "Legacy" filter in the Search section of the D&D Beyond App.,

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Now is the best time to start buying the 5e books second hand. I've been getting them from CEX so I don't need to worry about some much needed toggle when making my characters. This mash-up of rules is hoping that people switch to the 5.5e, but it's turned me off entirely from it instead. It's invasive and I just want to play my 2014 campaign without issues that I'm having to instead fight with just to make characters.

 I have the books, as do my players. So, in truth, we don’t need DnD Beyond or WotC. But we’re all neurodivergent and so DnD Beyond helps us a lot. What they’ve done with it now just ads to unnecessary confusion and it’s really sad that Wizards just doesn’t care. If we need to go back to books we can, but having a good digital tool helps us a lot. 

So far, while messed up, it’s still usable. But we are looking for better products or for this one to actually be fixed. 

If they would just admit it, that would at least be something.  

Considering I've now discovered they have actually removed some 5e 2014 content entirely from the obvious search channels, I am even more annoyed we didn't get a proper toggle to elect the new 2024 stuff not show up. Or even have it like usual content and just not be there unless you bought the books. 

The spell Shapechange has been entirely replaced with the 5.5e version in the general spell search and there is no 5e version available for it without using the search function. You can't use the basic search now in good faith that the legacy version will be available. 

*This has been edited to reflect my original post being incorrect.

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Considering I've now discovered they have actually removed some 5e 2014 content entirely, I am even more annoyed we didn't get a proper toggle to elect the new 2024 stuff not show up. Or even have it like usual content and just not be there unless you bought the books. 

The spell Shapechange has been entirely replaced with the 5.5e version and there is no 5e version available for it. Please be aware that your spells might have been irreparably changed with no way of changing it to your purchased content.

Please stop spreading misinformation. It is not cool. Beyond has legitmate issues, but spreading false information takes away the focus from the actual issue. We need the old lance and trident to be reimplemented, because those two did get replaced. And since we are in this thread, we need a content toggle as well. These are actual issues.

It really is not difficult to find Shapechange (Legacy) and Shapechange (2024), and I even looked it up with Beyond's horrible search tool.