Let me preface this by saying this has probably been discussed to death already, so sorry about that.
So I'm brand-spanking new to Dungeons & Dragons (Technically. I've played a few sessions of Pathfinder before that I feel didn't go so well due to a bad DM). I've bought the Starter Set, been reading and re-reading the rulebook over and over getting a basic grasp on the game, and the learning process has been really fun. I'm getting amped to round up some friends (who will also be new to D&D) and start the Lost Mines of Phandelver.
I initially thought I'd do it all theater-of-the-mind, since in my past Pathfinder experience, the DM did everything (and I mean literally EVERYTHING) on a grid, and I found it really slowed down and hampered the fun of the whole experience when we moved to a new location and he had to spend 5-10 minutes drawing out the new map.
But as I'm reading through the combat section of the D&D Starter Set rulebook, the rules (especially about character speed, ranges, etc.) sound like they would be really hard to keep track of in theater-of-the-mind, especially for the new players (including me) that will be playing. I can definitely see where a grid, with miniatures and being able to mark points-of-interest, would be advantageous and helpful at least for combat. So my plan is to the get the new D&D Adventure Grid coming out later this month, and get the Starter Set miniatures to represent the heroes. Not too much of an investment there.
But what about everything else? To get similar-looking miniatures for every potential creature or NPC looks like a huge investment, a separate hobby in its own right trying to collect everything. So what would be good to use? After some thinking and searching, I found these on Amazon. They're super cheap, plentiful, and have a wide variety of colors to represent different creatures and things.
Any other ideas? I know about the Pathfinder Pawns, but there are so many sets and they aren't exactly cheap IMO. Also, something just feels wrong about using Pathfinder accessories for a D&D game (Is that a fanboy mentality setting into me? :o)
Anyway, just wanting to hear your guys' thoughts for a fledgling D&D DM and player. Thanks!
I’m definitely hugely invested in the miniatures side of things for gaming. I love the idea of saying a giant ogre charges the group and, lo and behold, a giant ogre is there. But yeah, collecting and painting minis is neither cheap nor quick! A couple of alternatives:
And I would say if you dig the pathfinder stuff, use it! I actually prefer the look of some of the pathfinder monsters over the DnD ones (goblins!). Of course, if you get a hankering for collecting and painting minis, check out http://www.reapermini.com
Best option for mini's is Hero Clix . they are cheap and very easy to find. Also try Lego figures, the mini transformers work for Warforged, animals, and bugs. If money is really tight you can always go the cutout option , I think you can get a sheet for a few bucks print them out glue them on some cardboard glue that on a bottle cap and there you have cheep minis
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If you’re just looking for something functional for a battlemap, try these alternatives...
- Paper miniatures or tokens. Paizo makes a line of cardboard cutouts called Pathfinder Pawns. However, a simple DIY approach is to print images on cardstock, and attach or paste them to a stand or base (which can also be made from cardstock) bottlecap, or use a binder clip. Paizo even sells stand alone bases.
- Board game pieces, chess pieces, army men, lego minifigs, and other toys can make for simple and plentiful pieces. Check out the Wizards of the Coast D&D board games for unpainted versions of pre-painted sculpts.
- Check your local craft stores, you will almost certainly find something to use as tokens there. A popular option are round wooden discs, which come in 1", 2", and 3" sizes, which you can easily write on, or better, glue a printed image onto.
- Use a projector or television cued up to a virtual battlemap as a "digital tabletop”.
If you’re looking for pre-painted plastic miniatures...
- The “official” Dungeons and Dragons Miniatures are made by WizKids. There are two lines currently in print: Icons of the Realms (WoTC) and Pathfinder Battles (Paizo). These come in randomized packs of four miniatures.
—> See www.minisgallery.com for a full catalog of recent sets with photos and rarities
—> On average, you should expect to pay at least $3 or $4 per miniature. Most large figures or rare medium figures cost about $10 each on the secondary market. Iconic monsters or rare miniatures such as dragons, mind flayers, and beholders will often by much more.
—> Purchasing a case or booster brick is the most cost-effective means to get a lot of miniatures fast. A full sealed case containing 128 miniatures retails for about $350 USD. A sealed always contains at least one of each miniature in the set.
—> Paizo’s Iconic Heroes line are non-randomized packs for PC suitable figures.
—> Each major set features a case incentive figure available a non-random collectible. Recently, these have focused on dungeon dressing such as campsites, throne rooms, traps, and taverns, but past case incentives included gargantuan-sized creatures such as dragons and demon lords. Most of these are still widely available.
- Check eBay, often huge lots of random figures are available here at a big discount.
If you’re interested in painting your own miniatures...
- Reaper Miniatures (The Bones line is cheap, and high quality, and does an annual Kickstarter with a deep discount)
- Nozlur’s Marvellous Miniatures // Pathfinder Deep Cuts are official unpainted miniatures recently produced by WizKids, with lots of miniatures suitable for player characters.
- HeroForge offers the ultimate in customized, 3-D printed miniatures, if you have to have “the perfect” miniature for your character.
- 3D printers are very hot right now, and there are 3D printable miniatures for the entire monster manual.
- Games Workshop, Privateer Press, other manufacturers (high quality, much more expensive)
- Painting miniatures is a major time investment, and a hobby in itself. Don’t forget to factor the cost of materials (paints, brushes, primer, glue): they end up costing as much as pre-painted in the long run. If you aren’t interested in miniature painting as a hobby, don’t buy unpainted miniatures. Look for alternatives, or get pre-painted figures.
Let me preface this by saying this has probably been discussed to death already, so sorry about that.
So I'm brand-spanking new to Dungeons & Dragons (Technically. I've played a few sessions of Pathfinder before that I feel didn't go so well due to a bad DM). I've bought the Starter Set, been reading and re-reading the rulebook over and over getting a basic grasp on the game, and the learning process has been really fun. I'm getting amped to round up some friends (who will also be new to D&D) and start the Lost Mines of Phandelver.
I initially thought I'd do it all theater-of-the-mind, since in my past Pathfinder experience, the DM did everything (and I mean literally EVERYTHING) on a grid, and I found it really slowed down and hampered the fun of the whole experience when we moved to a new location and he had to spend 5-10 minutes drawing out the new map.
But as I'm reading through the combat section of the D&D Starter Set rulebook, the rules (especially about character speed, ranges, etc.) sound like they would be really hard to keep track of in theater-of-the-mind, especially for the new players (including me) that will be playing. I can definitely see where a grid, with miniatures and being able to mark points-of-interest, would be advantageous and helpful at least for combat. So my plan is to the get the new D&D Adventure Grid coming out later this month, and get the Starter Set miniatures to represent the heroes. Not too much of an investment there.
But what about everything else? To get similar-looking miniatures for every potential creature or NPC looks like a huge investment, a separate hobby in its own right trying to collect everything. So what would be good to use? After some thinking and searching, I found these on Amazon. They're super cheap, plentiful, and have a wide variety of colors to represent different creatures and things.
Any other ideas? I know about the Pathfinder Pawns, but there are so many sets and they aren't exactly cheap IMO. Also, something just feels wrong about using Pathfinder accessories for a D&D game (Is that a fanboy mentality setting into me? :o)
Anyway, just wanting to hear your guys' thoughts for a fledgling D&D DM and player. Thanks!
I want to start out by saying that the Lost Mines adventure is a great little adventure. It's worth buying the starter set just to get that.
I am not sure what the adventure grid is that is being released, but we use a Chessex dry/wet erase mat. Don't go overboard when trying to draw the map... just a quick sketch of the area is usually sufficient. If you want to draw something out ahead of time, get some butcher paper or have multiple dry erase mats and draw things out in advance.
For miniatures, we have miniatures for the PCs. However, for most encounters, we just use coins. It's easy to grab a variety of coins and plop them down. I do have some creature minis, but it is usually too much effort to find the ones you need when you need them. Maybe you are more organized than I am, but I find that trying to have the correct minis slows things down. With that said, I did buy some giant miniatures for when I get around to running Storm King's Thunder. Having a few minis for the "boss" fights or the primary NPCs probably would be fine. But, for the "hordes," use something simple like what you linked to on Amazon or coins or paper minis (again... usually takes me too long to find the correct minis).
I wouldn't have a problem using Pathfinder accessories with 5e. I mean, Pathfinder is D&D at heart and many of the accessories are not system specific.
Oh, and BTW, when I ran Lost Mines I used the drow references in the adventure to lead into Out of the Abyss... so, if you are thinking about running out of the Abyss after Lost Mines, it is easy to work that into the story.
I use a combo of pathfinder pawns, Sorry pawns, and metal minis my brother and I bought and painted 30+ years ago. Even after I got a pack of hero pathfinder pawns, some of my players prefer the Sorry pawns, which are not unlike what you linked to. With the pathfinder pawns, I'm constant having to use pawns for some other monster to represent the ones in the encounter, either because there aren't enough of the right monster or there aren't any of that monster.
I'm relatively new to D&D (played 2E as a kid and just back into it) and am DM'ing a group of teenagers. They are so used to videogames that asking them to do everything in the mind is difficult. Going in a different track would be using a Virtual Table Top program. I use Roll20 but do not use it they way it is intended (meant to be used so that everyone is in their house and connect online only). All I use if for is the maps and tokens for PCs, NPCs and Monsters. We still meet in person and use paper for everything there.
What I love about using Roll20 this way is it keeps track of monster HP/AC, initiatives, there's no cost for new miniatures (I create my own tokens) and I have a free account at Roll20. I have purchased the Monster Manual there so that I can drag / drop monsters and they are completely filled out. I can see the Monster's character sheet there and see attacks, spells, damage etc... I have a few older players who have joined us for one-off adventures and they also seem to really like being able to see the map on the wall (use a TV in the Library as a second monitor to my PC).
I wouldn't have a problem using Pathfinder accessories with 5e. I mean, Pathfinder is D&D at heart and many of the accessories are not system specific.
Yeah, I must admit that the Pathfinder Pawns do look really nice for getting more accurate representations of the creatures without the cost and commitment that comes with minis. If I were to go this route, I'd get the first Bestiary set. But like I said, there are a lot of sets, and if I have one, I'm gonna want to have them all!
Oh, and BTW, when I ran Lost Mines I used the drow references in the adventure to lead into Out of the Abyss... so, if you are thinking about running out of the Abyss after Lost Mines, it is easy to work that into the story.
Cool, thanks for the advice. I hadn't thought about where I'd go after the Starter Set aside from picking up the core rulebooks. I'll definitely keep this in mind. Though, I am using the pre-generated characters that come with the Starter Set for the LMOP, and at some point (sooner rather than later) I'm gonna want the players to create their own characters. I wouldn't want to re-run LMOP. Is Out of the Abyss suitable for level 1 characters?
I'm relatively new to D&D (played 2E as a kid and just back into it) and am DM'ing a group of teenagers. They are so used to videogames that asking them to do everything in the mind is difficult. Going in a different track would be using a Virtual Table Top program. I use Roll20 but do not use it they way it is intended (meant to be used so that everyone is in their house and connect online only). All I use if for is the maps and tokens for PCs, NPCs and Monsters. We still meet in person and use paper for everything there.
What I love about using Roll20 this way is it keeps track of monster HP/AC, initiatives, there's no cost for new miniatures (I create my own tokens) and I have a free account at Roll20. I have purchased the Monster Manual there so that I can drag / drop monsters and they are completely filled out. I can see the Monster's character sheet there and see attacks, spells, damage etc... I have a few older players who have joined us for one-off adventures and they also seem to really like being able to see the map on the wall (use a TV in the Library as a second monitor to my PC).
I had been using Fantasy Grounds in a similar way. However, since D&D Beyond has been released, that has supplanted FG for most things. I do like the combat tracker in FG. That makes it easy to track initiative order and current HP of PCs and monsters. However, as a reference tool, D&D Beyond is much more useful.
I wouldn't have a problem using Pathfinder accessories with 5e. I mean, Pathfinder is D&D at heart and many of the accessories are not system specific.
Yeah, I must admit that the Pathfinder Pawns do look really nice for getting more accurate representations of the creatures without the cost and commitment that comes with minis. If I were to go this route, I'd get the first Bestiary set. But like I said, there are a lot of sets, and if I have one, I'm gonna want to have them all!
Oh, and BTW, when I ran Lost Mines I used the drow references in the adventure to lead into Out of the Abyss... so, if you are thinking about running out of the Abyss after Lost Mines, it is easy to work that into the story.
Cool, thanks for the advice. I hadn't thought about where I'd go after the Starter Set aside from picking up the core rulebooks. I'll definitely keep this in mind. Though, I am using the pre-generated characters that come with the Starter Set for the LMOP, and at some point (sooner rather than later) I'm gonna want the players to create their own characters. I wouldn't want to re-run LMOP. Is Out of the Abyss suitable for level 1 characters?
Out of the Abyss says that it is for levels 1 to 15. But, it is quite sand boxy and the characters can easily get into areas that are beyond their abilities. It also requires a lot of prep work. It is more like a campaign setting with some story built into it.
It would actually be pretty easy to transition into Storm King's Thunder or Curse of Strahd as well... or Tomb of Annihilation. If you are looking for shorter adventures along the lines of Lost Mine of Phandelver, you could look at some of the Next play test adventures. Not sure if those are available on Roll 20. Some are available in Fantasy Grounds. I am taking a group through Legacy of the Crystal Shard. It's an interesting adventure and may be good with a group of teenagers. There is a lot going on. It is less sand boxy, but the players have to pick and choose which story threads to follow. They cannot do all of them. My group is struggling with some of the choices, because you can't help everyone and the overall plot continues on as you try to accomplish goals.
There are a couple of others, such as Murder in Baldur's Gate and Dead in Thay.
BTW: These Next play test modules usually include a 64 page supplement with Forgotten Realms setting material. This supplement is in addition to the adventure. For example, Legacy of the Crystal Shard takes place in the north (Icewind Dale region) and contains a supplement with lots of info about that region.
For a grid, I use Hexers Grid (On Amazon). It is quite literally the best dry erase I've ever used. With actual dry erase markers, I just use a paper towel with no staining whatsoever, and just do a spray cleaning once a month for, well, just in case. It has Hex on one side, and squares on the other, so it's multi-game functional. I've tried a lot of different 'dry erase' grids out there, and most of them leave staining or smearing and just take far too much maintenance - this is definitely my favorite of the lot.
Another thing I do for large battles, is a projector setup. Digital projector set up to my PC. I place it on a shelf in the room pointed at the table, dim the lights, and cast any digital map onto the table and scale it. You can use any of the great mini ideas used above, with much less downtime than 'erase and draw anew' tactics. You can even go a step further and use something like Maptools or your other favorite VTT and use the projector, so you don't need physical pawns at all - use digital images right on your table for far cheaper than building a custom gaming table with a built in monitor. (Just beware of the lumen requirements you'll need based on the lighting in your game room).
I had been using Fantasy Grounds in a similar way. However, since D&D Beyond has been released, that has supplanted FG for most things. I do like the combat tracker in FG. That makes it easy to track initiative order and current HP of PCs and monsters. However, as a reference tool, D&D Beyond is much more useful.
Definitely agree. I only use Roll20 for the map, moving the monsters / PCs and tracking initiative / HP / AC. I have a separate tab opened up on my laptop with DNDB for all referencing. Most of my players have commented how much faster their turns come around since using the digital map. I can only hope that DNDB will eventually incorporate some type of map system for use on the table. For our use, a simple display of a map from the Adventure we are playing and ability to put 'pins' on it for locations of PCs or Monsters would do. I do like the idea of the Fog of War that Roll20 offers so you can show the map only as the PCs explore the map though.
You can create tokens directly from URLs or uploading images from Dropbox.
I use felt pads because they're lightweight, self-adhesive and very easy to transport, but people used also wooden circles or transparent dome circles.
To get similar-looking miniatures for every potential creature or NPC looks like a huge investment, a separate hobby in its own right trying to collect everything.
It is. When the D&D pre-painted plastic minis came out, they weren't prohibitively expensive. There was also a very active trading community to the point where I could amass a "DM's Set" of miniatures by buying boxes (there were like 16 boosters in each box... I think, it's been so long), sorting out the ones I wanted, selling the really sought after ones that were extras for me, and trading for stuff I wanted with extras of mine that others wanted. I spent a lot of money but after doing all the above, I ended up out of pocket only a small fraction of what I spent.
But that was when they were made of a soft plastic with crappy paint jobs. The plastic now is much more brittle which is great for detail and it holds paint better, but they're also far more fragile and way more expensive. The trading community, as I knew it, is pretty much dead because of the cost. So even though I have about 1,000 minis all up, I am still far short of having enough minis to cater to every situation; it's kinda depressing.
The only thing I've found that comes anywhere close to being a possible satisfactory replacement, aside from being mega-rich, is TaleSpire. Unfortunately, it's not yet available and even then, isn't actual miniatures but rather a really cool virtual environment. Other than that, the Pathfinder Pawns you linked are probably the best compromise if you want something at least slightly representative of what the creatures are; if you don't care about representation, though, then honestly, it really doesn't matter what you use.
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Let me preface this by saying this has probably been discussed to death already, so sorry about that.
So I'm brand-spanking new to Dungeons & Dragons (Technically. I've played a few sessions of Pathfinder before that I feel didn't go so well due to a bad DM). I've bought the Starter Set, been reading and re-reading the rulebook over and over getting a basic grasp on the game, and the learning process has been really fun. I'm getting amped to round up some friends (who will also be new to D&D) and start the Lost Mines of Phandelver.
I initially thought I'd do it all theater-of-the-mind, since in my past Pathfinder experience, the DM did everything (and I mean literally EVERYTHING) on a grid, and I found it really slowed down and hampered the fun of the whole experience when we moved to a new location and he had to spend 5-10 minutes drawing out the new map.
But as I'm reading through the combat section of the D&D Starter Set rulebook, the rules (especially about character speed, ranges, etc.) sound like they would be really hard to keep track of in theater-of-the-mind, especially for the new players (including me) that will be playing. I can definitely see where a grid, with miniatures and being able to mark points-of-interest, would be advantageous and helpful at least for combat. So my plan is to the get the new D&D Adventure Grid coming out later this month, and get the Starter Set miniatures to represent the heroes. Not too much of an investment there.
But what about everything else? To get similar-looking miniatures for every potential creature or NPC looks like a huge investment, a separate hobby in its own right trying to collect everything. So what would be good to use? After some thinking and searching, I found these on Amazon. They're super cheap, plentiful, and have a wide variety of colors to represent different creatures and things.
Any other ideas? I know about the Pathfinder Pawns, but there are so many sets and they aren't exactly cheap IMO. Also, something just feels wrong about using Pathfinder accessories for a D&D game (Is that a fanboy mentality setting into me? :o)
Anyway, just wanting to hear your guys' thoughts for a fledgling D&D DM and player. Thanks!
I’m definitely hugely invested in the miniatures side of things for gaming. I love the idea of saying a giant ogre charges the group and, lo and behold, a giant ogre is there. But yeah, collecting and painting minis is neither cheap nor quick! A couple of alternatives:
https://printableheroes.tumblr.com
http://www.braveadventures.com/category/paper-miniatures/
And I would say if you dig the pathfinder stuff, use it! I actually prefer the look of some of the pathfinder monsters over the DnD ones (goblins!). Of course, if you get a hankering for collecting and painting minis, check out http://www.reapermini.com
Good luck!
Best option for mini's is Hero Clix . they are cheap and very easy to find. Also try Lego figures, the mini transformers work for Warforged, animals, and bugs. If money is really tight you can always go the cutout option , I think you can get a sheet for a few bucks print them out glue them on some cardboard glue that on a bottle cap and there you have cheep minis
https://newbiedm.com/2008/11/22/newbiedm-tutorial-counters-tokens-or-pogs/
Cheap and easy.
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If you’re just looking for something functional for a battlemap, try these alternatives...
I use a combo of pathfinder pawns, Sorry pawns, and metal minis my brother and I bought and painted 30+ years ago. Even after I got a pack of hero pathfinder pawns, some of my players prefer the Sorry pawns, which are not unlike what you linked to. With the pathfinder pawns, I'm constant having to use pawns for some other monster to represent the ones in the encounter, either because there aren't enough of the right monster or there aren't any of that monster.
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I'm relatively new to D&D (played 2E as a kid and just back into it) and am DM'ing a group of teenagers. They are so used to videogames that asking them to do everything in the mind is difficult. Going in a different track would be using a Virtual Table Top program. I use Roll20 but do not use it they way it is intended (meant to be used so that everyone is in their house and connect online only). All I use if for is the maps and tokens for PCs, NPCs and Monsters. We still meet in person and use paper for everything there.
What I love about using Roll20 this way is it keeps track of monster HP/AC, initiatives, there's no cost for new miniatures (I create my own tokens) and I have a free account at Roll20. I have purchased the Monster Manual there so that I can drag / drop monsters and they are completely filled out. I can see the Monster's character sheet there and see attacks, spells, damage etc... I have a few older players who have joined us for one-off adventures and they also seem to really like being able to see the map on the wall (use a TV in the Library as a second monitor to my PC).
Or, in the future, the best of both worlds.
All the fun of minis, plus the juice of digital effects, minus the clutter:
https://twitter.com/talespire
For a grid, I use Hexers Grid (On Amazon). It is quite literally the best dry erase I've ever used. With actual dry erase markers, I just use a paper towel with no staining whatsoever, and just do a spray cleaning once a month for, well, just in case. It has Hex on one side, and squares on the other, so it's multi-game functional. I've tried a lot of different 'dry erase' grids out there, and most of them leave staining or smearing and just take far too much maintenance - this is definitely my favorite of the lot.
Another thing I do for large battles, is a projector setup. Digital projector set up to my PC. I place it on a shelf in the room pointed at the table, dim the lights, and cast any digital map onto the table and scale it. You can use any of the great mini ideas used above, with much less downtime than 'erase and draw anew' tactics. You can even go a step further and use something like Maptools or your other favorite VTT and use the projector, so you don't need physical pawns at all - use digital images right on your table for far cheaper than building a custom gaming table with a built in monitor. (Just beware of the lumen requirements you'll need based on the lighting in your game room).
Hi! I needed Tokens and Monster Tents, so I created a free web tool to generate them.
You can find it here --> https://paper-tokens.firebaseapp.com/
You can create tokens directly from URLs or uploading images from Dropbox.
I use felt pads because they're lightweight, self-adhesive and very easy to transport, but people used also wooden circles or transparent dome circles.
Enjoy!
Don’t necro threads that are almost a year old; I think it’s against the rules, but I’m not positive on that
I know what you're thinking: "In that flurry of blows, did he use all his ki points, or save one?" Well, are ya feeling lucky, punk?
It is. When the D&D pre-painted plastic minis came out, they weren't prohibitively expensive. There was also a very active trading community to the point where I could amass a "DM's Set" of miniatures by buying boxes (there were like 16 boosters in each box... I think, it's been so long), sorting out the ones I wanted, selling the really sought after ones that were extras for me, and trading for stuff I wanted with extras of mine that others wanted. I spent a lot of money but after doing all the above, I ended up out of pocket only a small fraction of what I spent.
But that was when they were made of a soft plastic with crappy paint jobs. The plastic now is much more brittle which is great for detail and it holds paint better, but they're also far more fragile and way more expensive. The trading community, as I knew it, is pretty much dead because of the cost. So even though I have about 1,000 minis all up, I am still far short of having enough minis to cater to every situation; it's kinda depressing.
The only thing I've found that comes anywhere close to being a possible satisfactory replacement, aside from being mega-rich, is TaleSpire. Unfortunately, it's not yet available and even then, isn't actual miniatures but rather a really cool virtual environment. Other than that, the Pathfinder Pawns you linked are probably the best compromise if you want something at least slightly representative of what the creatures are; if you don't care about representation, though, then honestly, it really doesn't matter what you use.
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Shit. I only just realised this when I posted and then saw your post above mine. Oops.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
― Oscar Wilde.
But it's a great thread with really good information.
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Yeah, I don't see the problem in resurrecting a thread if new and useful information is posted.