I was looking at imprisonment, and I noticed that the Minimus Containment option prevents creatures from going "through" the gemstone via planar travel. That means that something that starts in one plane of existence and ends inside a container on another plane is described as going through the container, right?
I think of it this way. If I'm in my house, then transport to a place where there are no walls or anything and move around for a while, then come back to the plane that I left from and appear inside of a prison. I didn't travel "through the prison to get there I simply appeared there. I traveled through something else.
So it'd be more like, I escaped from the gem via planer travel though I did not go through the container I was removed from it.
(Most) Planar travel doesn't go "through" anything within a plane (border ethereal being somewhat of an exception). As far as inside and outside spaces go with planar travel, imagine jumping over a fence. You didn't go "through" the fence to get inside it. Planar travel is the jump and the ceiling, floor, and walls of a 3d space is the fence.
The spell isn't worded to convey information about how planar travel works. It is worded to convey the effect of the spell without over explaining. In doing so a briefer but clear wording was used instead of a longer, more accurate one. The take away is: light can pass through, nothing else can, and teleportation and planar travel are also prevented.
(Most) Planar travel doesn't go "through" anything within a plane (border ethereal being somewhat of an exception). As far as inside and outside spaces go with planar travel, imagine jumping over a fence. You didn't go "through" the fence to get inside it. Planar travel is the jump and the ceiling, floor, and walls of a 3d space is the fence.
The spell isn't worded to convey information about how planar travel works. It is worded to convey the effect of the spell without over explaining. In doing so a briefer but clear wording was used instead of a longer, more accurate one. The take away is: light can pass through, nothing else can, and teleportation and planar travel are also prevented.
If that was their intent, couldn't they have just written "warded against teleportation and planar travel" as written in the other options?
I wouldn't consider teleportation and planar travel as going through things.
My table was ruling it that way, too, since Merriam-Webster defines teleportation as "instantaneous travel between two locations without crossing the intervening space." Which means something performing teleportation and planar travel is inherently bypassing the need to go through things. But now I've seen this clause in Minimus Containment for imprisonment, and I'm no longer sure that's accurate. Minimus Containment specifying that you can't go through the gemstone via planar travel is a meaningless statement unless creatures use planar travel to go through things.
It is just phrased weirdly. It transitions from "nothing can pass through the gem" to "nothing can teleport or planar travel into the gem" in the same sentence without rephrasing.
Inconsistent wording is common in 5e. Multiple other wording choices indicate that teleportation does not travel the space between. If minimus containment were a rule about teleportation (which it isn't anyway), it would be in conflict with Rules as intended for other effects.
The very same spell has a different effect that phrase it in a way that makes a distinction between passing through and teleportation or planar travel.
I take that to mean it's specific to Minimus Containment only, rather than a general notion
Burial. The target is entombed far beneath the earth in a sphere of magical force that is just large enough to contain the target. Nothing can pass through the sphere, nor can any creature teleport or use planar travel to get into or out of it.
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I was looking at imprisonment, and I noticed that the Minimus Containment option prevents creatures from going "through" the gemstone via planar travel. That means that something that starts in one plane of existence and ends inside a container on another plane is described as going through the container, right?
I think of it this way. If I'm in my house, then transport to a place where there are no walls or anything and move around for a while, then come back to the plane that I left from and appear inside of a prison. I didn't travel "through the prison to get there I simply appeared there. I traveled through something else.
So it'd be more like, I escaped from the gem via planer travel though I did not go through the container I was removed from it.
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(Most) Planar travel doesn't go "through" anything within a plane (border ethereal being somewhat of an exception). As far as inside and outside spaces go with planar travel, imagine jumping over a fence. You didn't go "through" the fence to get inside it. Planar travel is the jump and the ceiling, floor, and walls of a 3d space is the fence.
The spell isn't worded to convey information about how planar travel works. It is worded to convey the effect of the spell without over explaining. In doing so a briefer but clear wording was used instead of a longer, more accurate one. The take away is: light can pass through, nothing else can, and teleportation and planar travel are also prevented.
If that was their intent, couldn't they have just written "warded against teleportation and planar travel" as written in the other options?
I wouldn't consider teleportation and planar travel as going through things.
My table was ruling it that way, too, since Merriam-Webster defines teleportation as "instantaneous travel between two locations without crossing the intervening space." Which means something performing teleportation and planar travel is inherently bypassing the need to go through things. But now I've seen this clause in Minimus Containment for imprisonment, and I'm no longer sure that's accurate. Minimus Containment specifying that you can't go through the gemstone via planar travel is a meaningless statement unless creatures use planar travel to go through things.
It is just phrased weirdly. It transitions from "nothing can pass through the gem" to "nothing can teleport or planar travel into the gem" in the same sentence without rephrasing.
Inconsistent wording is common in 5e. Multiple other wording choices indicate that teleportation does not travel the space between. If minimus containment were a rule about teleportation (which it isn't anyway), it would be in conflict with Rules as intended for other effects.
The very same spell has a different effect that phrase it in a way that makes a distinction between passing through and teleportation or planar travel.
I take that to mean it's specific to Minimus Containment only, rather than a general notion