I don't see any wording that limits the feats to adding the spells to a single Spellcasting feature or class so I would argue that if you multi class, it adds it to all of the specified features and that they are like wise always prepared under those features.
Spell slots are not class specific, but Pact Magic slots are, so I would count the Potent Dragonmark free slot as a regular spell slot but not as a Pact Magic slot.
Pact Magic slots are not class specific, either. If you're a Warlock/Sorceror, you can cast Warlock spells with your regular spell slots, and Sorceror spells with your Warlock spell slots. (And indeed, you can even turn Warlock spell slots into Sorceror Points).
The only difference between Pact Magic and other slots is you don't add your Warlock levels to your other spellcasting levels and determine a joint spell slot set from that total, the number of Warlock slots are determined solely by your Warlock level.
I think what Lia_Black meant (correct me if I am wrong) is that when you multiclass, the classes with the Spellcasting feature combine to create your spell slots available per the Multiclass table. Pact Magic remains separate. Yes, you can use the any slots to cast any spell, but Pact Magic slots do remain independent.
Dragonmark Stuff Combined: You always have the spells on your Spells of the Mark list prepared --- (NOTE: unlike other feats, here we don't have "You can also cast these spells using spell slots you have of the appropriate level")
I don't think that text is actually necessary in 2024. If a spell is prepared, you can cast it with slots you have of the appropriate level. I think existing Feats mention it as hold overs from 2014 or to reinforce the change from 2014. However, the requirement to cast a level 1+ spell is that you need to have it prepared and have an appropriate spell slot available. There's not really any other requirement that I can think of.
I think what Lia_Black meant (correct me if I am wrong) is that when you multiclass, the classes with the Spellcasting feature combine to create your spell slots available per the Multiclass table. Pact Magic remains separate. Yes, you can use the any slots to cast any spell, but Pact Magic slots do remain independent.
This is correct.
Edit: Also there are features that specifically call out the use of Pact Slots (Eldritch Smite), though Potent Dragonmark states that it can only be used for the Dragonmark Spells so it doesn't really impact the discussion.
Dragonmark Stuff Combined: You always have the spells on your Spells of the Mark list prepared --- (NOTE: unlike other feats, here we don't have "You can also cast these spells using spell slots you have of the appropriate level")
I don't think that text is actually necessary in 2024. If a spell is prepared, you can cast it with slots you have of the appropriate level. I think existing Feats mention it as hold overs from 2014 or to reinforce the change from 2014. However, the requirement to cast a level 1+ spell is that you need to have it prepared and have an appropriate spell slot available. There's not really any other requirement that I can think of.
I'm not totally sure about this, honestly. If that wording appears in traits and feats, it must be there for a reason.
Dragonmark Stuff Combined: You always have the spells on your Spells of the Mark list prepared --- (NOTE: unlike other feats, here we don't have "You can also cast these spells using spell slots you have of the appropriate level")
I don't think that text is actually necessary in 2024. If a spell is prepared, you can cast it with slots you have of the appropriate level. I think existing Feats mention it as hold overs from 2014 or to reinforce the change from 2014. However, the requirement to cast a level 1+ spell is that you need to have it prepared and have an appropriate spell slot available. There's not really any other requirement that I can think of.
I'm not totally sure about this, honestly. If that wording appears in traits and feats, it must be there for a reason.
Or maybe not, and it's like you're saying.
They are added to the class's spellcasting feature so the ability to cast it with your other slots comes from the class's existing feature.
Note: No other feat adds the given spells to your class thus the reason the verbage for slots is required.
Just writing out your ruling to see if I'm understanding all of you correctly after reading the last posts:
- When you take Potent Dragonmark, all Spells of the Mark (e.g. Mark of Storm Spells) are prepared for all your classes.
- You can cast any of those spells using your own slots, and you choose which Spellcasting Ability to use (if you have more than one) whenever you cast them.
- Additionally, you can cast any of those spells using the free spell slot provided by Potent Dragonmark (half your level (round up), to a maximum of level 5), and you choose which Spellcasting Ability to use (if you have more than one) whenever you cast them.
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I think what Lia_Black meant (correct me if I am wrong) is that when you multiclass, the classes with the Spellcasting feature combine to create your spell slots available per the Multiclass table. Pact Magic remains separate. Yes, you can use the any slots to cast any spell, but Pact Magic slots do remain independent.
I don't think that text is actually necessary in 2024. If a spell is prepared, you can cast it with slots you have of the appropriate level. I think existing Feats mention it as hold overs from 2014 or to reinforce the change from 2014. However, the requirement to cast a level 1+ spell is that you need to have it prepared and have an appropriate spell slot available. There's not really any other requirement that I can think of.
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This is correct.
Edit: Also there are features that specifically call out the use of Pact Slots (Eldritch Smite), though Potent Dragonmark states that it can only be used for the Dragonmark Spells so it doesn't really impact the discussion.
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I'm not totally sure about this, honestly. If that wording appears in traits and feats, it must be there for a reason.
Or maybe not, and it's like you're saying.
They are added to the class's spellcasting feature so the ability to cast it with your other slots comes from the class's existing feature.
Note: No other feat adds the given spells to your class thus the reason the verbage for slots is required.
She/Her Player and Dungeon Master
Just writing out your ruling to see if I'm understanding all of you correctly after reading the last posts:
- When you take Potent Dragonmark, all Spells of the Mark (e.g. Mark of Storm Spells) are prepared for all your classes.
- You can cast any of those spells using your own slots, and you choose which Spellcasting Ability to use (if you have more than one) whenever you cast them.
- Additionally, you can cast any of those spells using the free spell slot provided by Potent Dragonmark (half your level (round up), to a maximum of level 5), and you choose which Spellcasting Ability to use (if you have more than one) whenever you cast them.