About Dual Wielder + Nick (New perspective)

Quote from HarmAssassin >>

The benefit of the Dual Wielding feat is that the second weapon doesn't need to be light, and you can draw/stow two weapons at once (again reinforcing the idea that dual wielding is the wielding of a weapon in each hand at the same time).

I'd say in 5.5 the main mechanical benefit is an extra BA attack that stacks with Nick, although it does also allow for thematic rapier/dagger pairings and the like

It's still a pretty massive downgrade from the 5.0 version in terms of which weapons you can use though. No more barbarians with twin battle axes

Quote from Tarod_ >>

@Wayneland Yes, the Dual Wielder Bonus Action extra attack is triggered every time you attack with a Light weapon, including the one you shift into your Attack with Nick, or any extra attacks.

Some examples from another thread by Plaguescarred:

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With a more liberal use of Nick Mastery, attack sequence can be: 

1. Shortsword attack [Attack Action] + Scimitar attack [Nick Mastery] → Scimitar attack [Dual Wielder]
2. Shortsword attack [Attack Action] + Scimitar attack [Nick Mastery] → Shortsword attack [Dual Wielder]
3. Scimitar attack [Attack Action] + Shortsword attack [Nick Mastery] → Scimitar attack [Dual Wielder]
4. Scimitar attack [Attack Action] + Shortsword attack [Nick Mastery] → Shortsword attack [Dual Wielder]

 

 I have a question about this.

I understand options 1 and 2.. but 3 and 4?

If you attack with a Scimitar as your main attack, the scimitar light properties does indeed give you the chance of using the BA for the other hand (short sword in this case). But the shortsword has not the nick property so how does it get squeezed in the main attack action thus freeing the BA for DW?

What is the reading of the rules that would allow this?

Also, can the BA attack be made inbetween the Main attack and the Nick attack of the attack actions? Meaning, can the BA attack "Interrupt" the attacks of the attack action?

Quote from Jayce_Danathar >>

If you attack with a Scimitar as your main attack, the scimitar light properties does indeed give you the chance of using the BA for the other hand (short sword in this case). But the shortsword has not the nick property so how does it get squeezed in the main attack action thus freeing the BA for DW?

The shortsword doesn't have the Nick mastery, but the Scimitar does. The Nick mastery is rather poorly written and doesn't actually specify which attack (the triggering attack or the Light property bonus attack) needs to be made with the Nick weapon. So, in actual play, people often rule that it can be either one as long as at least one of the weapons has Nick.

Quote from Jayce_Danathar >>

Also, can the BA attack be made inbetween the Main attack and the Nick attack of the attack actions? Meaning, can the BA attack "Interrupt" the attacks of the attack action?

There's been some debate about this. In chapter 1 of the Player's Handbook, there's a section called "One Thing at a Time" that indicates that you can't take an action in the middle of another action, and it's generally understood that this is meant to apply to bonus actions as well.

However, some people have pointed out that the definition of "bonus action" just after this in the same chapter says that you get to choose when to take a bonus action in your turn unless the specific bonus action says otherwise, and argue that this means you can choose to take it in the middle of an action if you want. I don't agree with this interpretation, but it's worth mentioning as a thing people have brought up.

Personally, I would be inclined to take it on a case-by-case basis depending on the specific action and bonus action we're talking about. In the case where both are just making a bunch of attacks, I'd probably allow you to interleave them, though I also think it's unlikely that that would ever make much difference in practice.