The target of the Misty Step spell is Self so the total cover rules never come into play. You target yourself and appear in an unoccupied space you can see within 30 ft. If you can see inside the room on the other side of a window then you can go there.
Yes, and it gets even better. Since you teleport to a location that you can see, you can even teleport through some spell effects like a wall of force.
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Bark side up, bark side down, it really, truly does not matter.
funny thing about teleport effects is that they don't go through anything... you disappear from one place and appear in another... you do not travel through the space in between those 2 points so it is impossible to go 'through' anything... that's the nature of teleporting
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"A rightful place awaits you in the Realms Above, in the Land of the Great Light. Come in peace, and live beneath the sun again, where trees and flowers grow."
— The message of Eilistraee to all decent drow.
"Run thy sword across my chains, Silver Lady, that I may join your dance.”
funny thing about teleport effects is that they don't go through anything... you disappear from one place and appear in another... you do not travel through the space in between those 2 points so it is impossible to go 'through' anything... that's the nature of teleporting
For example, the crux of Smokey and the Bandit was that they picked up a truckload Coors in Texas and had to bring it back to Georgia, which involved crossing state lines into areas where the beer was prohibited. There is a case to be made for whether Buford T Justice could have benefitted from using wall of force to prevent snowman and the bandit from going eastbound and down, but had snowman used Misty Step (well, Teleport due to the distance), not only would he not have needed the bandit, but he could have bypassed the wall of force entirely and one could make the argument he would have never even crossed state lines due to the nonlinear nature of teleportation.
plus they wouldn't have run across sally field and burt reynolds would of been left spinning his wheels
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"A rightful place awaits you in the Realms Above, in the Land of the Great Light. Come in peace, and live beneath the sun again, where trees and flowers grow."
— The message of Eilistraee to all decent drow.
"Run thy sword across my chains, Silver Lady, that I may join your dance.”
Follow up question on misty step: If you use your action to "see through the eyes of a familiar," could you use a bonus action to misty step to where the familiar was? Or is the bonus action considered to happen after the action, and it fails because you can't see there anymore?
Also, if you create a minor illusion (like a big box or something), and you can see through it (since you are aware it's an illusion), I'm assuming you could misty step into it?
Yet another follow up: If you haven't used up your bonus action on a turn, and you tried to leap a gap but failed, could you use misty step to save yourself?
Follow up question: If you use your action to "see through the eyes of a familiar," could you use a bonus action to teleport to where the familiar was? Or is the bonus action considered to happen after the action, and it fails because you can't see there anymore?
"Additionally, as an action, you can see through your familiar's eyes and hear what it hears until the start of your next turn" you can absolutely use your action to see through your Familiar's eyes and then use your bonus action to teleport to somewhere it sees, so long as it's within 30 feet of you as Misty Step requires.
Also, if you create a minor illusion (like a big box or something), and you can see through it (since you are aware it's an illusion), I'm assuming you could misty step into it?
Follow up question on misty step: If you use your action to "see through the eyes of a familiar," could you use a bonus action to misty step to where the familiar was?
Follow up question: If you use your action to "see through the eyes of a familiar," could you use a bonus action to teleport to where the familiar was? Or is the bonus action considered to happen after the action, and it fails because you can't see there anymore?
"Additionally, as an action, you can see through your familiar's eyes and hear what it hears until the start of your next turn" you can absolutely use your action to see through your Familiar's eyes and then use your bonus action to teleport to somewhere it sees, so long as it's within 30 feet of you as Misty Step requires.
Also, if you create a minor illusion (like a big box or something), and you can see through it (since you are aware it's an illusion), I'm assuming you could misty step into it?
I don't see why not.
Thanks! I read and reread, but missed that "until the start of your next turn" bit. That's gold! I was thinking of using it to teleport somewhere close but unseen as a possible emergency "get out of jail free card." (Arcane trickster.)
It would be a bit of a shame if it didn't last until the start of your next turn. "You can see through your familiar's eyes, but only for an instant. Don't blink!"
It's handy because you can keep using your action each turn to continue looking through your Familiar's eyes for as long as you want. The drawback is that if something attacks you between doing it and your next turn, you're blind.
Follow up question on misty step: If you use your action to "see through the eyes of a familiar," could you use a bonus action to misty step to where the familiar was? Or is the bonus action considered to happen after the action, and it fails because you can't see there anymore?
Also, if you create a minor illusion (like a big box or something), and you can see through it (since you are aware it's an illusion), I'm assuming you could misty step into it?
Yet another follow up: If you haven't used up your bonus action on a turn, and you tried to leap a gap but failed, could you use misty step to save yourself?
I believe you could use Misty Step in that way just as long as you can see your landing point ie, from the spell description " appear in an unoccupied space you can see within 30 ft." So you 'could' MS to the edge of the gap and hold on if things got dier.
Yet another follow up: If you haven't used up your bonus action on a turn, and you tried to leap a gap but failed, could you use misty step to save yourself?
I believe you could use Misty Step in that way just as long as you can see your landing point ie, from the spell description " appear in an unoccupied space you can see within 30 ft." So you 'could' MS to the edge of the gap and hold on if things got dier.
Or just above the ground. Nothing says the space you appear in has to be on the floor.
Honestly per RAW this is a tough one to rule. I would certainly allow it, and I'm sure most every DM would, but per the actual rules... Well, there is no falling speed in 5e; if you fall, you immediately fall the entire distance, which doesn't really give you time to cast a spell. If the pit is deeper than 30 feet, you'll immediately be too far to teleport out anyway.
So, per RAW, no you can't; you need a reaction spell like Feather Fall to get out of that situation. Technically you can't even ReadyMisty Step because it's a Bonus Action, not an Action.
The optional rule in XGtE says 500 feet per round - but it does say you fall that distance instantly. So if you fluff a jump and start falling - bye bye - you're not going to get off Misty Step in time.
If you said 'I'm going to jump - and at the height of my jump I'm going to Misty Step' then sure I'd allow it - but if you say you're going to try the jump - fluff it - and then say you're going to Misty Step - no can do - well - you can - but you're already up to 500 feet down.
So now the real question; if you're using the XGtE 500 ft/round rule, and you fall from a 530' height... can you Misty Step to safety after your round of falling, or do you maintain your momentum?
Yet another follow up: If you haven't used up your bonus action on a turn, and you tried to leap a gap but failed, could you use misty step to save yourself?
I believe you could use Misty Step in that way just as long as you can see your landing point ie, from the spell description " appear in an unoccupied space you can see within 30 ft." So you 'could' MS to the edge of the gap and hold on if things got dier.
Or just above the ground. Nothing says the space you appear in has to be on the floor.
Honestly per RAW this is a tough one to rule. I would certainly allow it, and I'm sure most every DM would, but per the actual rules... Well, there is no falling speed in 5e; if you fall, you immediately fall the entire distance, which doesn't really give you time to cast a spell. If the pit is deeper than 30 feet, you'll immediately be too far to teleport out anyway.
Makes sense, both of you.
Maybe the ruling could depend on if you got surprised. I wouldn't think misty step would apply if my character unexpectedly fell into a pit trap. However, if my character was climbing something precarious, or attempting an extra big jump, and said, "If this starts going south, I'm ready to misty step myself to safety," I think it might be reasonable.
I thought about using it to clear a 40' jump, if I ran and jumped as far as I could (10 feet), then misty stepped the rest of the way. Probably with a weird shoulder roll landing at the end--so disorienting!
When you only get a few spells, you start really thinking about options!
So now the real question; if you're using the XGtE 500 ft/round rule, and you fall from a 530' height... can you Misty Step to safety after your round of falling, or do you maintain your momentum?
Alas, we may never know.
Technically in 5e there's no such thing as momentum. If you Misty Stepped in that situation you'd be totally fine.
Maybe the ruling could depend on if you got surprised. I wouldn't think misty step would apply if my character unexpectedly fell into a pit trap. However, if my character was climbing something precarious, or attempting an extra big jump, and said, "If this starts going south, I'm ready to misty step myself to safety," I think it might be reasonable.
I thought about using it to clear a 40' jump, if I ran and jumped as far as I could (10 feet), then misty stepped the rest of the way. Probably with a weird shoulder roll landing at the end--so disorienting!
When you only get a few spells, you start really thinking about options!
Per the rules, the first thing - saying if you start to fall you'll Misty Step - wouldn't be possible as it would technically be Readying the Misty Step, which - since it's a bonus action, not an action - you cannot do.
The second thing - jumping 10 feet out and teleporting the remaining 30' - would definitely be doable, so long as you specify it's what you're doing, like Emmber said.
Personally I don't like that bonus actions can't be Readied, so I would allow it. But it's not doable per RAW.
Simple Yes/No. If a spell caster can see a room through a window could they cast Misty Step and 'teleport' into it?
Yes. Absolutely they can do that.
The target of the Misty Step spell is Self so the total cover rules never come into play. You target yourself and appear in an unoccupied space you can see within 30 ft. If you can see inside the room on the other side of a window then you can go there.
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Highest 41: brocker2001 (#11,285).
Yahtzee of 2's: Emmber (#36,161).
Lowest 9: JoeltheWalrus (#312), Emmber (#12,505) and Dertinus (#20,953).
Yes, and it gets even better. Since you teleport to a location that you can see, you can even teleport through some spell effects like a wall of force.
Bark side up, bark side down, it really, truly does not matter.
funny thing about teleport effects is that they don't go through anything... you disappear from one place and appear in another... you do not travel through the space in between those 2 points so it is impossible to go 'through' anything... that's the nature of teleporting
For example, the crux of Smokey and the Bandit was that they picked up a truckload Coors in Texas and had to bring it back to Georgia, which involved crossing state lines into areas where the beer was prohibited. There is a case to be made for whether Buford T Justice could have benefitted from using wall of force to prevent snowman and the bandit from going eastbound and down, but had snowman used Misty Step (well, Teleport due to the distance), not only would he not have needed the bandit, but he could have bypassed the wall of force entirely and one could make the argument he would have never even crossed state lines due to the nonlinear nature of teleportation.
"Not all those who wander are lost"
Well played.
Where is the fun in that!? They're doing it because they say it cannot be done!
plus they wouldn't have run across sally field and burt reynolds would of been left spinning his wheels
Such a fun movie.
Agree on "yes" with going through the window.
Follow up question on misty step: If you use your action to "see through the eyes of a familiar," could you use a bonus action to misty step to where the familiar was? Or is the bonus action considered to happen after the action, and it fails because you can't see there anymore?
Also, if you create a minor illusion (like a big box or something), and you can see through it (since you are aware it's an illusion), I'm assuming you could misty step into it?
Yet another follow up: If you haven't used up your bonus action on a turn, and you tried to leap a gap but failed, could you use misty step to save yourself?
"Additionally, as an action, you can see through your familiar's eyes and hear what it hears until the start of your next turn" you can absolutely use your action to see through your Familiar's eyes and then use your bonus action to teleport to somewhere it sees, so long as it's within 30 feet of you as Misty Step requires.
I don't see why not.
Yes
"Not all those who wander are lost"
Thanks! I read and reread, but missed that "until the start of your next turn" bit. That's gold! I was thinking of using it to teleport somewhere close but unseen as a possible emergency "get out of jail free card." (Arcane trickster.)
It would be a bit of a shame if it didn't last until the start of your next turn. "You can see through your familiar's eyes, but only for an instant. Don't blink!"
It's handy because you can keep using your action each turn to continue looking through your Familiar's eyes for as long as you want. The drawback is that if something attacks you between doing it and your next turn, you're blind.
I believe you could use Misty Step in that way just as long as you can see your landing point ie, from the spell description " appear in an unoccupied space you can see within 30 ft." So you 'could' MS to the edge of the gap and hold on if things got dier.
Or just above the ground. Nothing says the space you appear in has to be on the floor.
Honestly per RAW this is a tough one to rule. I would certainly allow it, and I'm sure most every DM would, but per the actual rules... Well, there is no falling speed in 5e; if you fall, you immediately fall the entire distance, which doesn't really give you time to cast a spell. If the pit is deeper than 30 feet, you'll immediately be too far to teleport out anyway.
So, per RAW, no you can't; you need a reaction spell like Feather Fall to get out of that situation. Technically you can't even Ready Misty Step because it's a Bonus Action, not an Action.
The optional rule in XGtE says 500 feet per round - but it does say you fall that distance instantly. So if you fluff a jump and start falling - bye bye - you're not going to get off Misty Step in time.
If you said 'I'm going to jump - and at the height of my jump I'm going to Misty Step' then sure I'd allow it - but if you say you're going to try the jump - fluff it - and then say you're going to Misty Step - no can do - well - you can - but you're already up to 500 feet down.
Mega Yahtzee Thread:
Highest 41: brocker2001 (#11,285).
Yahtzee of 2's: Emmber (#36,161).
Lowest 9: JoeltheWalrus (#312), Emmber (#12,505) and Dertinus (#20,953).
So now the real question; if you're using the XGtE 500 ft/round rule, and you fall from a 530' height... can you Misty Step to safety after your round of falling, or do you maintain your momentum?
Alas, we may never know.
Makes sense, both of you.
Maybe the ruling could depend on if you got surprised. I wouldn't think misty step would apply if my character unexpectedly fell into a pit trap. However, if my character was climbing something precarious, or attempting an extra big jump, and said, "If this starts going south, I'm ready to misty step myself to safety," I think it might be reasonable.
I thought about using it to clear a 40' jump, if I ran and jumped as far as I could (10 feet), then misty stepped the rest of the way. Probably with a weird shoulder roll landing at the end--so disorienting!
When you only get a few spells, you start really thinking about options!
Technically in 5e there's no such thing as momentum. If you Misty Stepped in that situation you'd be totally fine.
Mega Yahtzee Thread:
Highest 41: brocker2001 (#11,285).
Yahtzee of 2's: Emmber (#36,161).
Lowest 9: JoeltheWalrus (#312), Emmber (#12,505) and Dertinus (#20,953).
Per the rules, the first thing - saying if you start to fall you'll Misty Step - wouldn't be possible as it would technically be Readying the Misty Step, which - since it's a bonus action, not an action - you cannot do.
The second thing - jumping 10 feet out and teleporting the remaining 30' - would definitely be doable, so long as you specify it's what you're doing, like Emmber said.
Personally I don't like that bonus actions can't be Readied, so I would allow it. But it's not doable per RAW.