OK this is a general question and I know that DDB and WotC are not the same company, I'm just asking the following things and would like to hear the thoughts of others on the subject.
Why would WotC delay the release of just the single "Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse" until May 17, 2022 when they could release it right now alongside the expansion gift set?
I also cannot see DM's/Players that have been playing the game for awhile buying the expansion set as they most likely have 2 of the books already, so that expansion set is probably aimed at newer DM's/Players so this does have me confused and I watched the following video link by Treantmonk on his thoughts on the subject. So please lets discuss the subject.
Why would WotC delay the release of just the single "Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse" until May 17, 2022 when they could release it right now alongside the expansion gift set?
That'd be "if", not "when". When the decision was made to split up the releases of the boxed gift set and the separate M³ book, that pretty much set in stone they'd have to be released separately. Logistics and production demands don't allow companies to decide they want to have their product now instead of when they first planned to have it. They might be able to shorten the timeline, but if so there'd be major financial consequences and they'd still be at the mercy of the supply chain.
We have lots of supply chain issues and labor shortages. If you want to vent your frustration out on someone, take it out on [REDACTED]. Complaining about why you cannot get this, the price is too high on whatever you can get, or shipments being late to the employees and business owners is not going to help anyone, and it is going to make them more miserable and more likely to quit, and it will ultimately come back and bite you in the behind. Direct your frustration at the root cause of the issue.
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The answers do far seem to be focusing on why it was delayed, not why there is a gap between the box set and individual release.
The answer is obvious - given their circumstances, they felt that this was the mistake likely to be the most profitable. That's what companies do. If they couldn't have done it simultaneously - spideycloned's link gives why the gift set was not released before Christmas, not why they were released separately - that doesn't explain why they didn't prioritise individual release. It also doesn't account for why they decided on delaying the release in digital format until the individual copies were released. It's possible that they couldn't do simultaneous releases, but that doesn't explain all the behaviours.
I find the most likely answer is the most simple one. They were worried that the collector's edition would struggle, especially since most players will have two of the three books already and they weren't offering much extra. As a result, they decided to release the box set first. That would allow some who were on the edge to buy it to get access to it early. That's also why the digital content was forced to wait - that would be further competition for it. They then release the individual copies so anyone who won't buy the box set for whatever reason. will still buy MotM.
Could they have released simultaneously? Maybe, maybe not. But they chose the way they did release it in order to get more profit. You can't blame them for that - WotC exists to persuade you to give them money, D&D exists merely as a means to that end.
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The real question is why they did a 3-book “gift” box at all this soon after the biggest gift-giving holiday season of the year. The only reason I can imagine is to set these three books as “The Other Three” right next to “The Core Three.” That’s the only thing I can imagine. I also suspect that Volo’ Guide & Mordenkainen’s Tome will be going out of print in the very near future.
The real question is why they did a 3-book “gift” box at all this soon after the biggest gift-giving holiday season of the year. The only reason I can imagine is to set these three books as “The Other Three” right next to “The Core Three.” That’s the only thing I can imagine. I also suspect that Volo’ Guide & Mordenkainen’s Tome will be going out of print in the very near future.
Bingo, this is the set designed for Mom and Pop or whatever relative who got the young player the core books, see the young player taking well to the game so was in the market to take their kids playing "to the next level." They liked the idea of sequel trilogy rather than bundling in Mords and Volos, so created a combo book and through in the racial options more in line with the "future" as well as the "streamlimed" monster updates. That way they got the set gift buyers can be confident will support their kids D&D playing into the future _and_ have a bit of a teaser for the whale collectors out there who want to buy that glimpse of the future in a premium package. Other reasonable players can wait a few months for MMM solo release. I do think "all this" may ultimately hurt MMM's sales since the book's contents will be widely disseminated by the gift set owners and most of these options can easily be handled via house rules as opposed to consulting a whole manual.
tl;dr even without the supply chain complications I'm pretty sure we'd have seen the gift box out a quarter before the solo release cut into its sales, it's called milking. This was WotC/Hasbro experimenting with a hybrid effort to "upgrade" more casual or less completionist players as well as test out a "premium" format. I don't care for the move, I would have liked to buy the book sooner (maybe, honestly I'll probably wait until the Fall as I've got enough content coming my way through kickstarters that I don't honestly know if I'd have time to read it in the near future anyway, heck I've only looked at VRGtR twice to date).
Not having a retailers incentive cover for this one on solo release I thing was also a bad move and definitely effects my purchasing, puts me in no rush mode.
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The real question is why they did a 3-book “gift” box at all this soon after the biggest gift-giving holiday season of the year.
They couldn't make it in time for last year's holiday season due to all the supply chain nonsense still going on, and they didn't want to wait another year since that'd mean sitting on M³'s individual release for another year as well. That'd be my guess anyway.
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The real question is why they did a 3-book “gift” box at all this soon after the biggest gift-giving holiday season of the year.
They couldn't make it in time for last year's holiday season due to all the supply chain nonsense still going on, and they didn't want to wait another year since that'd mean sitting on M³'s individual release for another year as well. That'd be my guess anyway.
Plus interfering with the advent product calendar count down to WOTC CD PROJEkT D&D 2024 RED
"glimpse at the future" reads transitional product, they've already given a 2024 date and the closer they get to that the closer buyers are likely to sit out until a non transitional product is put out there. I'm expected 2023 to be basically adventures "across the multiverse ...." asserting the new norm to be codified in a 2024 core. I'll shave my planespellscapejamming powerstache if I'm wrong (but would have to grow a powerstache to shave first).
The real question is why they did a 3-book “gift” box at all this soon after the biggest gift-giving holiday season of the year.
They couldn't make it in time for last year's holiday season due to all the supply chain nonsense still going on, and they didn't want to wait another year since that'd mean sitting on M³'s individual release for another year as well. That'd be my guess anyway.
Plus interfering with the advent product calendar count down to WOTC CD PROJEkT D&D 2024 RED
"glimpse at the future" reads transitional product, they've already given a 2024 date and the closer they get to that the closer buyers are likely to sit out until a non transitional product is put out there. I'm expected 2023 to be basically adventures "across the multiverse ...." asserting the new norm to be codified in a 2024 core. I'll shave my planespellscapejamming powerstache if I'm wrong (but would have to grow a powerstache to shave first).
Depends on what they have planned for 2024 really. If it's not too revolutionary, and at least going to be 100% compatible with 5E-as-is, WotC will likely announce that much by the end of this year or early next year - as soon as those plans are solid enough, anyway - to dampen consumer skittishness. They'll have to be pretty convincing though, I think a lot of people feel like they got burned to some degree at some point by WotC and they might not be willing to take them at their word when it comes to reassurances this time will not be like that. We'll see.
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OK this is a general question and I know that DDB and WotC are not the same company, I'm just asking the following things and would like to hear the thoughts of others on the subject.
Why would WotC delay the release of just the single "Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse" until May 17, 2022 when they could release it right now alongside the expansion gift set?
I also cannot see DM's/Players that have been playing the game for awhile buying the expansion set as they most likely have 2 of the books already, so that expansion set is probably aimed at newer DM's/Players so this does have me confused and I watched the following video link by Treantmonk on his thoughts on the subject. So please lets discuss the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSPH0mxWVv8&t=527s
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=why was monsters of the multiverse delayed
There's literally nothing to discuss that isn't going to start a witchunt against Wizards when Wizards has given an official stance.
That'd be "if", not "when". When the decision was made to split up the releases of the boxed gift set and the separate M³ book, that pretty much set in stone they'd have to be released separately. Logistics and production demands don't allow companies to decide they want to have their product now instead of when they first planned to have it. They might be able to shorten the timeline, but if so there'd be major financial consequences and they'd still be at the mercy of the supply chain.
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We have lots of supply chain issues and labor shortages. If you want to vent your frustration out on someone, take it out on [REDACTED]. Complaining about why you cannot get this, the price is too high on whatever you can get, or shipments being late to the employees and business owners is not going to help anyone, and it is going to make them more miserable and more likely to quit, and it will ultimately come back and bite you in the behind. Direct your frustration at the root cause of the issue.
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The answers do far seem to be focusing on why it was delayed, not why there is a gap between the box set and individual release.
The answer is obvious - given their circumstances, they felt that this was the mistake likely to be the most profitable. That's what companies do. If they couldn't have done it simultaneously - spideycloned's link gives why the gift set was not released before Christmas, not why they were released separately - that doesn't explain why they didn't prioritise individual release. It also doesn't account for why they decided on delaying the release in digital format until the individual copies were released. It's possible that they couldn't do simultaneous releases, but that doesn't explain all the behaviours.
I find the most likely answer is the most simple one. They were worried that the collector's edition would struggle, especially since most players will have two of the three books already and they weren't offering much extra. As a result, they decided to release the box set first. That would allow some who were on the edge to buy it to get access to it early. That's also why the digital content was forced to wait - that would be further competition for it. They then release the individual copies so anyone who won't buy the box set for whatever reason. will still buy MotM.
Could they have released simultaneously? Maybe, maybe not. But they chose the way they did release it in order to get more profit. You can't blame them for that - WotC exists to persuade you to give them money, D&D exists merely as a means to that end.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
The real question is why they did a 3-book “gift” box at all this soon after the biggest gift-giving holiday season of the year. The only reason I can imagine is to set these three books as “The Other Three” right next to “The Core Three.” That’s the only thing I can imagine. I also suspect that Volo’ Guide & Mordenkainen’s Tome will be going out of print in the very near future.
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Bingo, this is the set designed for Mom and Pop or whatever relative who got the young player the core books, see the young player taking well to the game so was in the market to take their kids playing "to the next level." They liked the idea of sequel trilogy rather than bundling in Mords and Volos, so created a combo book and through in the racial options more in line with the "future" as well as the "streamlimed" monster updates. That way they got the set gift buyers can be confident will support their kids D&D playing into the future _and_ have a bit of a teaser for the whale collectors out there who want to buy that glimpse of the future in a premium package. Other reasonable players can wait a few months for MMM solo release. I do think "all this" may ultimately hurt MMM's sales since the book's contents will be widely disseminated by the gift set owners and most of these options can easily be handled via house rules as opposed to consulting a whole manual.
tl;dr even without the supply chain complications I'm pretty sure we'd have seen the gift box out a quarter before the solo release cut into its sales, it's called milking. This was WotC/Hasbro experimenting with a hybrid effort to "upgrade" more casual or less completionist players as well as test out a "premium" format. I don't care for the move, I would have liked to buy the book sooner (maybe, honestly I'll probably wait until the Fall as I've got enough content coming my way through kickstarters that I don't honestly know if I'd have time to read it in the near future anyway, heck I've only looked at VRGtR twice to date).
Not having a retailers incentive cover for this one on solo release I thing was also a bad move and definitely effects my purchasing, puts me in no rush mode.
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Yup, whale milk.
The otherother thing it does is allow time tor unsold stocks of Volo’s Guide & Mordenkainen’s Tome to run lower before they go OOP.
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They couldn't make it in time for last year's holiday season due to all the supply chain nonsense still going on, and they didn't want to wait another year since that'd mean sitting on M³'s individual release for another year as well. That'd be my guess anyway.
Want to start playing but don't have anyone to play with? You can try these options: [link].
Plus interfering with the advent product calendar count down to WOTC CD PROJEkT D&D 2024 RED
"glimpse at the future" reads transitional product, they've already given a 2024 date and the closer they get to that the closer buyers are likely to sit out until a non transitional product is put out there. I'm expected 2023 to be basically adventures "across the multiverse ...." asserting the new norm to be codified in a 2024 core. I'll shave my planespellscapejamming powerstache if I'm wrong (but would have to grow a powerstache to shave first).
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Depends on what they have planned for 2024 really. If it's not too revolutionary, and at least going to be 100% compatible with 5E-as-is, WotC will likely announce that much by the end of this year or early next year - as soon as those plans are solid enough, anyway - to dampen consumer skittishness. They'll have to be pretty convincing though, I think a lot of people feel like they got burned to some degree at some point by WotC and they might not be willing to take them at their word when it comes to reassurances this time will not be like that. We'll see.
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