the Paladin of the party I'm DM-ing turned lvl 5 so now he can use the Find Steed spell. The spell states:
While mounted on your steed, you can make any spell you cast that targets only you also target your steed.
Does this mean that he could use Searing Smite (which basically is his signature move) to function on the warhorse as well? Since natural weapons count as a weapon attack, I don't see why not.
Unless there's a sage advice to the contrary, my reading has always been that any and all spells with a range of "Self" are Find Steed-eligible. If so, more fun spells to have affect your mount!
Augury or practically any other divination spell, to have a magical fortune telling horse!
Spirit Guardians, to have overlapping auras for a total of 6d8 damage per round (just hope that your horse likes your friends as much as you do and exempts the same allies)
Gust of Wind, so you can blow in both directions simultaneously and part the seas!
Control Weather, so you can team up to make it EXTRA sunny (or can bicker like an old couple and constantly change the thermostat back and forth behind each other's backs)
Sending, because horses get to use the phone too, MOM, jeez!
Tenser's Transformation, because it's 2018, and a horse can grow up to be anything it wants to be!
Wish, because honestly you just aren't doing a very good job of fulfilling the emotional and spiritual needs of your horse, but magic can!
Unless there's a sage advice to the contrary, my reading has always been that any and all spells with a range of "Self" are Find Steed-eligible. If so, more fun spells to have affect your mount!
Augury or practically any other divination spell, to have a magical fortune telling horse!
Spirit Guardians, to have overlapping auras for a total of 6d8 damage per round (just hope that your horse likes your friends as much as you do and exempts the same allies)
Gust of Wind, so you can blow in both directions simultaneously and part the seas!
Control Weather, so you can team up to make it EXTRA sunny (or can bicker like an old couple and constantly change the thermostat back and forth behind each other's backs)
Sending, because horses get to use the phone too, MOM, jeez!
Tenser's Transformation, because it's 2018, and a horse can grow up to be anything it wants to be!
Wish, because honestly you just aren't doing a very good job of fulfilling the emotional and spiritual needs of your horse, but magic can!
Number 2 doesn't work. A spell can't stack with itself. You could make it a bigger aura, but the damage would not increase.
Here's the portion of the DMG that supports your reading (and here's the PHB rule applying to spells more specifically). I acknowledge them, but every time I've seen a tweet applying that rule, it's been in the context of a spell handing out bonuses/conditions that you either have/don't have... not damage which is by its very nature designed to stack even when multiple identical sources hand it to you in a round (such as 5 identical goblins all making identical opportunity attacks against you when you move from a space in the middle of them).
If you really want to drive home that they're two different auras with different effects that shouldn't stack, pick radiant damage for your own aura and necrotic for your horse, presto, they don't overlap any more a la this tweet (though I know, Mearls has no business issuing rule clarifications in general, but Crawford has never contradicted this).
Searing Smite targets you when you cast it, but it also targets the creature you hit. As a rule of thumb, regardless of the spell's initial targeting choices (if any), if you can apply an effect or damage that's specific to the spell to someone or something else, you're targeting them too. You can't twin or share Dragon's Breath for the same reason.
If you really want to drive home that they're two different auras with different effects that shouldn't stack, pick radiant damage for your own aura and necrotic for your horse, presto, they don't overlap any more a la this tweet (though I know, Mearls has no business issuing rule clarifications in general, but Crawford has never contradicted this).
The rules don't care whether they have different parameters, they only care about them having the same name.
Hey guys,
the Paladin of the party I'm DM-ing turned lvl 5 so now he can use the Find Steed spell. The spell states:
Does this mean that he could use Searing Smite (which basically is his signature move) to function on the warhorse as well? Since natural weapons count as a weapon attack, I don't see why not.
Subclass: Dwarven Defender - Dragonborn Paragon
Feats: Artificer Apprentice
Monsters: Sheep - Spellbreaker Warforged Titan
Magic Items: Whipier - Ring of Secret Storage - Collar of the Guardian
Monster template: Skeletal Creature
Yes, I would say it works.
Unless there's a sage advice to the contrary, my reading has always been that any and all spells with a range of "Self" are Find Steed-eligible. If so, more fun spells to have affect your mount!
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I'm going to make this way harder than it needs to be.
Number 2 doesn't work. A spell can't stack with itself. You could make it a bigger aura, but the damage would not increase.
Here's the portion of the DMG that supports your reading (and here's the PHB rule applying to spells more specifically). I acknowledge them, but every time I've seen a tweet applying that rule, it's been in the context of a spell handing out bonuses/conditions that you either have/don't have... not damage which is by its very nature designed to stack even when multiple identical sources hand it to you in a round (such as 5 identical goblins all making identical opportunity attacks against you when you move from a space in the middle of them).
If you really want to drive home that they're two different auras with different effects that shouldn't stack, pick radiant damage for your own aura and necrotic for your horse, presto, they don't overlap any more a la this tweet (though I know, Mearls has no business issuing rule clarifications in general, but Crawford has never contradicted this).
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I'm going to make this way harder than it needs to be.
Searing Smite targets you when you cast it, but it also targets the creature you hit. As a rule of thumb, regardless of the spell's initial targeting choices (if any), if you can apply an effect or damage that's specific to the spell to someone or something else, you're targeting them too. You can't twin or share Dragon's Breath for the same reason.
"Blinding Smite has a range of self, and it refers to the creature you attack as a target. Those two facts together mean the spell doesn't target only you."
For a thorough discussion about spell targeting, check out this episode of Dragon Talk.
The rules don't care whether they have different parameters, they only care about them having the same name.
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That makes sense, thanks InquisitiveCoder
Subclass: Dwarven Defender - Dragonborn Paragon
Feats: Artificer Apprentice
Monsters: Sheep - Spellbreaker Warforged Titan
Magic Items: Whipier - Ring of Secret Storage - Collar of the Guardian
Monster template: Skeletal Creature
According to Crawford, if it has an area of effect parenthetical it doesn’t double up