The monk's "ki-fueled attack" feature (TCoE) is a bonus action attack if the monk has spent a ki point during its turn. But in D&D Beyond, this feature is tagged as "No Action." Therefore, it does not show up under the Bonus Action subtab under Actions. So, if you're looking for what bonus actions your monk can use after completing the action on its turn, this feature is not shown in the list of bonus action..
No, any action that gets triggered by something else is put into the system as a “special action,” which displays as “no action” on the character sheet. In this case it’s triggered if you spend Ki on your turn, which is why it’s in there as a “special action,” and not a bonus action you can choose to trigger all by itself.
No, any action that gets triggered by something else is put into the system as a “special action,” which displays as “no action” on the character sheet. In this case it’s triggered if you spend Ki on your turn, which is why it’s in there as a “special action,” and not a bonus action you can choose to trigger all by itself.
Like two weapon fighting, shield master's shove, martial arts' unarmed strike, or flurry of blows?
All of those are bonus actions that require conditions to be met with a taken action to be used just like no fueled strike, but all of those (and more) are listed as a bonus action instead of a special action.
"Special" actions apply to other actions or circumstances without using any kind of action at all, like smite, sneak attack, stunning strike, ki, metamagic, etc.
No, any action that gets triggered by something else is put into the system as a “special action,” which displays as “no action” on the character sheet. In this case it’s triggered if you spend Ki on your turn, which is why it’s in there as a “special action,” and not a bonus action you can choose to trigger all by itself.
Like two weapon fighting, shield master's shove, martial arts' unarmed strike, or flurry of blows?
All of those are bonus actions that require conditions to be met with a taken action to be used just like no fueled strike, but all of those (and more) are listed as a bonus action instead of a special action.
"Special" actions apply to other actions or circumstances without using any kind of action at all, like smite, sneak attack, stunning strike, ki, metamagic, etc.
No, all of those are specifically triggered bonus actions, Ki-Fueled Attack is incidentally triggered simply by spending Ki to do something else, it just takes your bonus action to do it.
Yes, you hose are other “special” actions, they are pumping Ki-Fueled Attack in with those since it is incidentally triggered just like they are.
I don’t make these decisions, I just recognized the pattern.
No, any action that gets triggered by something else is put into the system as a “special action,” which displays as “no action” on the character sheet. In this case it’s triggered if you spend Ki on your turn, which is why it’s in there as a “special action,” and not a bonus action you can choose to trigger all by itself.
Like two weapon fighting, shield master's shove, martial arts' unarmed strike, or flurry of blows?
All of those are bonus actions that require conditions to be met with a taken action to be used just like no fueled strike, but all of those (and more) are listed as a bonus action instead of a special action.
"Special" actions apply to other actions or circumstances without using any kind of action at all, like smite, sneak attack, stunning strike, ki, metamagic, etc.
No, all of those are specifically triggered bonus actions, Ki-Fueled Attack is incidentally triggered simply by spending Ki to do something else, it just takes your bonus action to do it.
Yes, you hose are other “special” actions, they are pumping Ki-Fueled Attack in with those since it is incidentally triggered just like they are.
I don’t make these decisions, I just recognized the pattern.
So just to be clear:
"When you [requirement] on your turn, you can make one [attack] as a bonus action" and "If you [requirement] on your turn, you can use a bonus action to shove" are specifically triggered bonus action thus is listed as a bonus action but,
"If you [requirement] on your turn, you can make one [attack] as a bonus action" is an "incidentally" triggered bonus action and thus is for some reason treated like every effect that doesn't require an action but still uses a bonus action without being one?
I don't see the difference between these identically phrased effects, can you please point it out specifically? I also don't see the similarity between the ki fueled bonus action and the completely different non-actions, could you point that out too?
No, any action that gets triggered by something else is put into the system as a “special action,” which displays as “no action” on the character sheet. In this case it’s triggered if you spend Ki on your turn, which is why it’s in there as a “special action,” and not a bonus action you can choose to trigger all by itself.
Like two weapon fighting, shield master's shove, martial arts' unarmed strike, or flurry of blows?
All of those are bonus actions that require conditions to be met with a taken action to be used just like no fueled strike, but all of those (and more) are listed as a bonus action instead of a special action.
"Special" actions apply to other actions or circumstances without using any kind of action at all, like smite, sneak attack, stunning strike, ki, metamagic, etc.
No, all of those are specifically triggered bonus actions, Ki-Fueled Attack is incidentally triggered simply by spending Ki to do something else, it just takes your bonus action to do it.
Yes, you hose are other “special” actions, they are pumping Ki-Fueled Attack in with those since it is incidentally triggered just like they are.
I don’t make these decisions, I just recognized the pattern.
So just to be clear:
"When you [requirement] on your turn, you can make one [attack] as a bonus action" and "If you [requirement] on your turn, you can use a bonus action to shove" are specifically triggered bonus action thus is listed as a bonus action but,
"If you [requirement] on your turn, you can make one [attack] as a bonus action" is an "incidentally" triggered bonus action and thus is for some reason treated like every effect that doesn't require an action but still uses a bonus action without being one?
I don't see the difference between these identically phrased effects, can you please point it out specifically? I also don't see the similarity between the ki fueled bonus action and the completely different non-actions, could you point that out too?
The first two don’t require a resource expenditure, the third one does.
I never said that they should do it the way they did it, just why they did it the way they did it. Like I said, I didn’t do it, I just understood why they did it the way they did it. Why are you arguing with me about it?
No, any action that gets triggered by something else is put into the system as a “special action,” which displays as “no action” on the character sheet. In this case it’s triggered if you spend Ki on your turn, which is why it’s in there as a “special action,” and not a bonus action you can choose to trigger all by itself.
Like two weapon fighting, shield master's shove, martial arts' unarmed strike, or flurry of blows?
All of those are bonus actions that require conditions to be met with a taken action to be used just like no fueled strike, but all of those (and more) are listed as a bonus action instead of a special action.
"Special" actions apply to other actions or circumstances without using any kind of action at all, like smite, sneak attack, stunning strike, ki, metamagic, etc.
No, all of those are specifically triggered bonus actions, Ki-Fueled Attack is incidentally triggered simply by spending Ki to do something else, it just takes your bonus action to do it.
Yes, you hose are other “special” actions, they are pumping Ki-Fueled Attack in with those since it is incidentally triggered just like they are.
I don’t make these decisions, I just recognized the pattern.
So just to be clear:
"When you [requirement] on your turn, you can make one [attack] as a bonus action" and "If you [requirement] on your turn, you can use a bonus action to shove" are specifically triggered bonus action thus is listed as a bonus action but,
"If you [requirement] on your turn, you can make one [attack] as a bonus action" is an "incidentally" triggered bonus action and thus is for some reason treated like every effect that doesn't require an action but still uses a bonus action without being one?
I don't see the difference between these identically phrased effects, can you please point it out specifically? I also don't see the similarity between the ki fueled bonus action and the completely different non-actions, could you point that out too?
The first two don’t require a resource expenditure, the third one does.
I never said that they should do it the way they did it, just why they did it the way they did it. Like I said, I didn’t do it, I just understood why they did it the way they did it. Why are you arguing with me about it?
So if it doesn't require a resource expenditure like eldritch knight's war magic, then it should be listed as a bonus action? Except it isn't. Probably because it makes a weapon attack and they can't make features do that automatically, they should probably list it in BA anyway to be less confusing. Hey, that sounds familiar...
You started arguing with me. I don't like to argue, I just want to learn if I'm wrong, but I need to be proven wrong first. That need still hasn't been met.
Alternatively there’s *not* a reason why they did it this way, and giving it a “no action” action was a mistake, i.e. it is a bug, which is why I posted it here in the bugs forum.
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The monk's "ki-fueled attack" feature (TCoE) is a bonus action attack if the monk has spent a ki point during its turn. But in D&D Beyond, this feature is tagged as "No Action." Therefore, it does not show up under the Bonus Action subtab under Actions. So, if you're looking for what bonus actions your monk can use after completing the action on its turn, this feature is not shown in the list of bonus action..
I bet I know why. They can't support features that make a weapon attack, so they just made it no action and you use an attack from your actions.
It is confusing not showing as an available bonus action though when looking for bonus actions specifically, so maybe it should be changed.
No, any action that gets triggered by something else is put into the system as a “special action,” which displays as “no action” on the character sheet. In this case it’s triggered if you spend Ki on your turn, which is why it’s in there as a “special action,” and not a bonus action you can choose to trigger all by itself.
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Like two weapon fighting, shield master's shove, martial arts' unarmed strike, or flurry of blows?
All of those are bonus actions that require conditions to be met with a taken action to be used just like no fueled strike, but all of those (and more) are listed as a bonus action instead of a special action.
"Special" actions apply to other actions or circumstances without using any kind of action at all, like smite, sneak attack, stunning strike, ki, metamagic, etc.
No, all of those are specifically triggered bonus actions, Ki-Fueled Attack is incidentally triggered simply by spending Ki to do something else, it just takes your bonus action to do it.
Yes, you hose are other “special” actions, they are pumping Ki-Fueled Attack in with those since it is incidentally triggered just like they are.
I don’t make these decisions, I just recognized the pattern.
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So just to be clear:
"When you [requirement] on your turn, you can make one [attack] as a bonus action" and "If you [requirement] on your turn, you can use a bonus action to shove" are specifically triggered bonus action thus is listed as a bonus action but,
"If you [requirement] on your turn, you can make one [attack] as a bonus action" is an "incidentally" triggered bonus action and thus is for some reason treated like every effect that doesn't require an action but still uses a bonus action without being one?
I don't see the difference between these identically phrased effects, can you please point it out specifically? I also don't see the similarity between the ki fueled bonus action and the completely different non-actions, could you point that out too?
The first two don’t require a resource expenditure, the third one does.
I never said that they should do it the way they did it, just why they did it the way they did it. Like I said, I didn’t do it, I just understood why they did it the way they did it. Why are you arguing with me about it?
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So if it doesn't require a resource expenditure like eldritch knight's war magic, then it should be listed as a bonus action? Except it isn't. Probably because it makes a weapon attack and they can't make features do that automatically, they should probably list it in BA anyway to be less confusing. Hey, that sounds familiar...
You started arguing with me. I don't like to argue, I just want to learn if I'm wrong, but I need to be proven wrong first. That need still hasn't been met.
I never started arguing with you, I just explained why they… you know what, never ******* mind.
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Alternatively there’s *not* a reason why they did it this way, and giving it a “no action” action was a mistake, i.e. it is a bug, which is why I posted it here in the bugs forum.