So I joined a group and we are a few months into our campaign and well I'm having aproblem ironing out my zen.
My fellow adventurers are really for getting up to shenanigans like 'rural justice' as well as getting into fights and looting ect. Now don't get me wrong this stuff is fun but I feel like when I suggest going in with diplomacy first and helping people in need you know being monkly I am in the minority.
I'm not to sure whether to put this forward to my DM or if I should just take it out in game and walk over to those group of campers and strike a conversation with -1 charisma?
Talk to your GM about your concerns...away from the rest of the group. Are the other party members acting within the GM's expectations? Are the other members of the group acting outside of their alignment/deity choice? You have the option to become the "Mom" of the group...to remind them. Get a feel what the GM allows.
Party conflicts (arguing/scolding...not trying to kill each other) is another aspect of gaming! -)
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If you are going for the zen-like monk who prefers to avoid skirmishes, you could play it as the guy in the corner who doesn't do anything while the bar fight ensues, but is quick to step in once the fight goes sideways (a weapon is introduced, the odds become overwhelming, etc...). Every Jean-Claude Van Dam-type fighting movie in the 80's where the protagonist was trained by a master had this sort of scene: where the master is a bad ass, but just sits by and watches his pupil get his butt kicked until the odds get to be too great and the main character ends up asking why the master didn't step in sooner, and he responds with something along the lines of, "I thought you had it".
Of course, this might mean missing out on being involved a lot of the time, but it will be that much better when you finally step in to save the day.
If you don't want that, then I agree that you should talk to the DM first to see if they can't think of a way to get you more involved, or if that fails, they might be able to talk to the party about toning that kind of stuff down.
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You could try to confuse your party. Make a list of 100 zen zen sayings roll a d100 say that thing and tell them it means diplomacy is the best way forward (or what ever you want it to mean) when you're contradicted smile at them and say " are you sure?" Then smile mysteriously as they go and do it anyway. Then when its all over say "see"
If nothing else it plays into the zen master feel of the class
Also rather than saying outright this is a bad idea ask
"Are you sure this is how you wish to proceed?" If they ask why not then you get to explain your point of view.
Also -1 charisma isn't that you're so hideous that you'll be attacked on sight. you should be able to talk without being attacked. Also it might force your party to talk if you aren't getting info but they aren't being outright nasty
I have a monk who is Lawful Neutral. When the party does something questionable, she sits back and lets them. If it’s life threatening, she’ll jump in and keep people from dying. She lets people break civil laws but constantly reminds the party that “karma is a bitch”. If they are caught and thrown in prison, that’s on them and she waits outside for them to escape.
My monk is Neutral Good (Way of the Long Death to study the effects & is on a personal mission to find ways to extend longevity to all people.) He considers all life to be precious. This definitely is at odds with his group (at one point they were going murder-hobo while he was unconcious) especially when he actively doesn't kill his opponents. They have now somewhat come to terms with it & my monk has had some changes in his principles (part of his story arch.) Early on he had to stand his ground in front of his party to stop them from killing.
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