Twinned spell metamagic and chromatic orb

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It is a bit misleading, its like calculating the potential damage of fireball by saying it hit 20 people and at 7th level each one did 42 damage, giving a save chance of 40% and saying potential average damage of 672. It did 42 to a bunch of people. I mean fine if you want to look at it that way but i think most people will just think i did 42 to more than one person. 

Though odds are even with this spell it will miss once before it reaches the max leaps when you are upcasting it high enough. But it will also have some crits, still overall its kind of cool at 7th level it will hit a group for 40ish damage. fun, but you almost always will have a better use of a 7th level spell slot. 

 The hit chance can actually be built around to make it very reliable. I played an Elven Sorcerer with Elven Accuracy and the Seeking Spell metamagic, and once I was using about a 4th level spell slot, I don't think I ever missed a target thanks to the on-demand advantage from Innate Sorcery. It also has the advantage of not hitting your allies if they like to be in the middle of the fray. The spell can be VERY effective if you are up against hordes of minions, but it is definitely a spell to use only against the horde, not when fighting against one or two big monsters. 

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So chromatic orb cant leap at level 1. At level 2+ it can leap. Leap is possible when you roll the same values of damage dice. When it leaps, you make an attack roll. 

Just for the record, Chromatic Orb absolutely can leap at level 1; there's nothing in it that says it can't. It can't leap more than once at level 1.

Agreed it leaps on match at 1 but it is odd that it does not leap up to level +1 because upcast to 2 only grants higher chance of a leap over level 1.

Not sure I really follow what you're saying here. Upcasting to level 2 both increases the chance of a leap (because of the additional damage die) and the number of times it can leap (because it can now leap up to 2 times instead of only 1).

 derp*  i was conflating leap with targets.  Pho-k yeah! Thanks for the adjustment. Woo hoo. Look out goblins. 

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It is a bit misleading, its like calculating the potential damage of fireball by saying it hit 20 people and at 7th level each one did 42 damage, giving a save chance of 40% and saying potential average damage of 672. It did 42 to a bunch of people. I mean fine if you want to look at it that way but i think most people will just think i did 42 to more than one person. 

Though odds are even with this spell it will miss once before it reaches the max leaps when you are upcasting it high enough. But it will also have some crits, still overall its kind of cool at 7th level it will hit a group for 40ish damage. fun, but you almost always will have a better use of a 7th level spell slot. 

 The hit chance can actually be built around to make it very reliable. I played an Elven Sorcerer with Elven Accuracy and the Seeking Spell metamagic, and once I was using about a 4th level spell slot, I don't think I ever missed a target thanks to the on-demand advantage from Innate Sorcery. It also has the advantage of not hitting your allies if they like to be in the middle of the fray. The spell can be VERY effective if you are up against hordes of minions, but it is definitely a spell to use only against the horde, not when fighting against one or two big monsters. 

elven accuracy was such  dumb feat to add into the game. I am not sure it will survive in 5.5 given how much easier it is to get advantage if they ever redo the feat.