You find a different game to play. Did you ask the GM why?
If they didn't tell you a reason, try reviewing your behavior- spontaneous ejection from a game usually means that you did something like telling a bunch of **** jokes after being told that one or more other players was seriously offended by them, having really nasty BO and not bathing before games, or cheating. If you truly haven't been doing anything wrong, it could be that they're just jerks and you're better off with a different group anyway.
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"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
What should you do if you were removed from the game for no reason or explaining or warnings?
A DM runs a campaign how he or she sees fit. Although I, as a DM, would certainly give people explanations or warnings before kicking them out, nothing on this site requires a DM to do so.
Dm already made up his mind he wont let me play
Then that's it. DM's word is final on stuff like who gets to play in their campaign.
The short answer -- and in fact any answer of any length -- is that you cannot do anything about it if a DM doesn't want you in the game. No one can force a DM to run a game for them. Just like a DM can't do anything about it if a player just stops playing without any warning or explanation.
I can’t imagine there’s not a reason and if he told it to the others -likely all / several wanted it. Like said above, look back.
I’m a DM who did the exactly the same thing-the whole table knew he was cheating on rolls even after being called out on it, and was generally just not enjoyable to play with-just not a good mix with the group ...group decision was to give him the boot.
Not saying that’s you but here’s some easy things to look at:
do you cheat at dice rolls?
are you a min/maxer to the point of being confrontational about it?
do you try to call all the shots?
are you talking most of the time?
do you curse a lot?
do you eat chips at the table, lick your fingers and then touch table pieces?
do you argue with the dm or others more than anyone else?
Do you play murder hobos or arsonists killing everything and burning everything as you go?
do you try to pickpocket/steal from other characters?
do you get really graphic with your combat descriptions?
do you shower on game day and brush your teeth before showing up?
do you chomp gum while you play?
do you yell at the table a lot?
do you continually tell people their wrong because you know all the rules and have read all the books?
when you’re adventuring, do you go with the group or insist on going your way?
do you read the modules ahead of time and let others know what’s happening?
do you cheat at dice rolls? No not at all, although I doubt it would matter since we are online and the DM has no way of knowing what my rolls are
are you a min/maxer to the point of being confrontational about it? A did pick a few feats that negated some of the monsters attacks and did some damage
do you try to call all the shots? Not at all, in fact, my first character was quite passive
are you talking most of the time? All the PCs talked a similar amount]
do you curse a lot? Twice- in character across 3 months of gameplay
do you argue with the dm or others more than anyone else? about stuff non- game related we talked a bit back and fourth
Do you play murder hobos or arsonists killing everything and burning everything as you go? Funny story actually, I "accidentally" killed an important NPC by triggering a trap, funny story is that I was accused of "derailing" for that
do you try to pickpocket/steal from other characters? Nope,
do you continually tell people their wrong because you know all the rules and have read all the books? No, although I do try to help people out if they are new on their turn
when you’re adventuring, do you go with the group or insist on going your way? Most often my character would go out with the group, although a few times my character wanted some "alone time" due to having his arm ripped off and being self-conscious about it
What should you do if you were removed from the game
Do:
Reflect on your interactions with the GM and the other players. There is likely a reason, but it may or may not be about something other than yourself.
Re-read your groupchat or direct message if applicable, were you given a warning or explanation that you missed/dismissed?
Consider if there is anything to learn from this.
Find another game
Don't:
Go to public forums and give one side of the story.
If I understand this... you were with this group for 3 months, playing regularly. You seem to have had no indication anything was wrong, and (according to you), were an average/normal player who didn't do any of the hyper-annoying things that drive people crazy at most tables.
And then, completely without any warning and for no reason you can fathom, you were booted from the campaign and not told why?
Either there is something very big that you aren't telling us, or you are playing with utter jerks. Given that you have been with them for three months, and I would think you'd have realized by now they are jerks, and either stopped playing with them or at least not been surprised they did this to you... I have to assume that there is something huge you are not telling us.
I suggest you reflect on your behavior in particular in the very last session right before you were booted. You must have done something that triggered this. Odds are it wasn't the first time you did this, and may not even have been the worst time, but was the straw the broke the dragon's back. You don't need to tell us what it was here (in fact it's probably best if you don't). But you should do some reflecting on your own behavior. If you are completely honest with yourself, I bet you will figure out what it was.
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I damaged another player as a character choice, but it only happened once, and it was in our last session
Our dm said nothing of damaging another player, could this be the case?
( Threw dagger and it did little damage) as a threw since my character was scared of theirs
You're not going to find an answer here. We are not members of the group, and neither are we the DM of that group. We cannot tell you about their decision making, since we are 100% separate from it.
Have you asked the DM? That's the only way you're going to get a meaningful answer. But don't be a pest about it, either. They are under no obligation to explain to you if they do not want to.
It was a Roll20 / Discord thing, first session, the mission was to storm a cultist-infested fort and were currently surveying it. It looked like it would prove quite a challenge so one player decided he would go back to town and get some armour - he had "maybe'd" it earlier, deciding he would to see to see if he needed it now or could wait until a little later as it was going to cost a lot. The ride to where we were had been clear, so he decided to go back alone while we continuing stealthily surveying the fort at distance to judge the best way in. The DM decided for sake of brevity to just say he went and got the armour, then said on the way back he encountered bandits. Ok fine, the player knew that was the risk. The DM then stated the attacks were hitting his unarmoured AC, when it was asked why he said the character wasn't armoured because the player didn't specify this.
I found that unfair. So, being me, I spoke up. I queried why he had to specify it at all as it's pretty much a given the char would don it before heading back since we all spoke about the risks of bandits and it's also common sense. I also said the player had no opportunity to declare because the DM skipped all RP of this - the player even chimed in saying he did think the skipping-RP bit meant he didn't have to specify putting on armour. The DM said he'd retcon the attacks as they now miss - and this was quite good as the character would have been downed - and it would be discussed further after game about what players do and don't have to declare when DM skip-RP narrates, as there seemed to be misunderstanding between players and DM. Now that character was able to not get so hurt and escape to rejoin us.
After we entered the fort there was an incident I don't remember the full details. It was a battle and basically the DM entirely ignored what another player said and this resulted in the character taking a lot of damage. I felt I had missed something and so I don't look like an idiot or one of those "constantly challenge the DMs" players, sent a private message to the DM to ask about that. I was courteous about it, and was just checking if I may have missed something. He said the player had changed what they wanted - and indeed I had missed that line (it's text, not voice), I thanked him and apologised for missing that. He seemed cool about it.
The session otherwise went OK. After the session we brought up the armour thing and it showed that there was quite a bit of misunderstanding and most the players weren't happy about the DM's decision there. He said he understood and agreed that somethings should be assumed especially when skipping the RP of it where things were obvious (like putting on clothes after waking up so we're not all walking through town naked, and similarly putting on the armour just purchased specifically to protect us on the road where we know bandits are possible before we go on the road). He then decided to bring up my misunderstanding and show everyone my PMs to him. I don't know why he did this, I explained again it was just me missing a line and I was confused, I apologised again, I did mention I wasn't happy about a private message made public, and he did apologise for that in a sarcastic way. I decided to ignore that. We all continued chatting a bit - everyone was happy, I did apologise to the DM about raising those discussions, and he said it was fine and in the case of the armour, it was a good thing. I even had other players thanking me for that - especially the player with the armour, since he would have lost his character otherwise. Everything seemed great then.
Ah, no. I logged in next session to find myself kicked from the Roll20 group and the Discord channel. No messages or anything. I tried to message him on Roll20 - I was blocked. I message him on Discord to ask what was going on and if I caused any offense I was sorry. He told me he didn't like being challenged and the others didn't like me doing that either (blatant lie). I responded to say I was sorry, I wasn't trying to challenge just wanted to get this straight as there was confusion and it seemed to have even be helpful. He replied saying he didn't care and if I messaged him again he was going to press charges for harassment, then he blocked me.
Some DMs have fragile egos. They want puppets to their story and if you don't like their cheating DM vs PC ways you get ban-hammered out of the group. You're better off.
Personally, I ended up joining a group which I've been with since. The DM is fantastic and there's been absolutely no issues. He even encourages us to remind him of certain things if he forgets, seeing it as helpful not a challenge. So while it isn't a nice experience to get kicked from a group, especially if you haven't done anything, just try to see it as a positive: you're free to find a group that you'll probably enjoy much, much, better.
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I think some of this comes from people who start out as strangers and don't know each other, and now on top of that with covid it is all done online through things like discord, which are far from perfect... and when there is a misunderstanding it can lead to all kinds of explosions that wouldn't have happened when playing with people you know around a table.
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WOTC lies. We know that WOTC lies. WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. We know that WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. And still they lie.
Because of the above (a paraphrase from Orwell) I no longer post to the forums -- PM me if you need help or anything.
Also, as a side note... if your Online name is the same as your forum name, someone at the table may have taken offense... of course, that should have been noticed at the beginning and not 3 months into the campaign.
do you argue with the dm or others more than anyone else? about stuff non- game related we talked a bit back and fourth
Do you play murder hobos or arsonists killing everything and burning everything as you go? Funny story actually, I "accidentally" killed an important NPC by triggering a trap, funny story is that I was accused of "derailing" for that
That are two possible red flags, that might trigger your DM... but that is just wild guessing and such things might run deeper than presented...
Methinks there is a lot of this story we're not hearing.
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There are alot of whacko players out there so the DM does not have to put up with that sort of stuff, I have heard mom's or wives screaming in the back round, I have had people with bad mics or bad internet, I have had people who swear in every sentence they utter, I have had players that will interrupt other players consistently, I have had pervert players who lack any respect for female players, I have had players whom I booted right off the bat who want to play little kids ( that creeps me out alot), I have had to suffer through reading some whakos homo erotic 7500 word doc (could not get past the first sentence but still got the gist of her document) So ya, I am one of those DM's that will boot you without batting an eye. There are alot of odd and weird players out there that is for sure.
Yes, but all of us are unlikely to ever know what that reason is unless everyone else in the group comes here to give their side of the story. Which is quite unlikely.
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What should you do if you were removed from the game for no reason or explaining or warnings?
Dm already made up his mind he wont let me play
to add insult to injury he didn't tell me until after all the other players
You find a different game to play. Did you ask the GM why?
If they didn't tell you a reason, try reviewing your behavior- spontaneous ejection from a game usually means that you did something like telling a bunch of **** jokes after being told that one or more other players was seriously offended by them, having really nasty BO and not bathing before games, or cheating. If you truly haven't been doing anything wrong, it could be that they're just jerks and you're better off with a different group anyway.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
A DM runs a campaign how he or she sees fit. Although I, as a DM, would certainly give people explanations or warnings before kicking them out, nothing on this site requires a DM to do so.
Then that's it. DM's word is final on stuff like who gets to play in their campaign.
The short answer -- and in fact any answer of any length -- is that you cannot do anything about it if a DM doesn't want you in the game. No one can force a DM to run a game for them. Just like a DM can't do anything about it if a player just stops playing without any warning or explanation.
WOTC lies. We know that WOTC lies. WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. We know that WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. And still they lie.
Because of the above (a paraphrase from Orwell) I no longer post to the forums -- PM me if you need help or anything.
I can’t imagine there’s not a reason and if he told it to the others -likely all / several wanted it. Like said above, look back.
I’m a DM who did the exactly the same thing-the whole table knew he was cheating on rolls even after being called out on it, and was generally just not enjoyable to play with-just not a good mix with the group ...group decision was to give him the boot.
Not saying that’s you but here’s some easy things to look at:
do you cheat at dice rolls?
are you a min/maxer to the point of being confrontational about it?
do you try to call all the shots?
are you talking most of the time?
do you curse a lot?
do you eat chips at the table, lick your fingers and then touch table pieces?
do you argue with the dm or others more than anyone else?
Do you play murder hobos or arsonists killing everything and burning everything as you go?
do you try to pickpocket/steal from other characters?
do you get really graphic with your combat descriptions?
do you shower on game day and brush your teeth before showing up?
do you chomp gum while you play?
do you yell at the table a lot?
do you continually tell people their wrong because you know all the rules and have read all the books?
when you’re adventuring, do you go with the group or insist on going your way?
do you read the modules ahead of time and let others know what’s happening?
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You could always ask the DM and the other players.
do you cheat at dice rolls? No not at all, although I doubt it would matter since we are online and the DM has no way of knowing what my rolls are
are you a min/maxer to the point of being confrontational about it? A did pick a few feats that negated some of the monsters attacks and did some damage
do you try to call all the shots? Not at all, in fact, my first character was quite passive
are you talking most of the time? All the PCs talked a similar amount]
do you curse a lot? Twice- in character across 3 months of gameplay
do you argue with the dm or others more than anyone else? about stuff non- game related we talked a bit back and fourth
Do you play murder hobos or arsonists killing everything and burning everything as you go? Funny story actually, I "accidentally" killed an important NPC by triggering a trap, funny story is that I was accused of "derailing" for that
do you try to pickpocket/steal from other characters? Nope,
do you continually tell people their wrong because you know all the rules and have read all the books? No, although I do try to help people out if they are new on their turn
when you’re adventuring, do you go with the group or insist on going your way? Most often my character would go out with the group, although a few times my character wanted some "alone time" due to having his arm ripped off and being self-conscious about it
Do:
Don't:
I am one with the Force. The Force is with me.
If I understand this... you were with this group for 3 months, playing regularly. You seem to have had no indication anything was wrong, and (according to you), were an average/normal player who didn't do any of the hyper-annoying things that drive people crazy at most tables.
And then, completely without any warning and for no reason you can fathom, you were booted from the campaign and not told why?
Either there is something very big that you aren't telling us, or you are playing with utter jerks. Given that you have been with them for three months, and I would think you'd have realized by now they are jerks, and either stopped playing with them or at least not been surprised they did this to you... I have to assume that there is something huge you are not telling us.
I suggest you reflect on your behavior in particular in the very last session right before you were booted. You must have done something that triggered this. Odds are it wasn't the first time you did this, and may not even have been the worst time, but was the straw the broke the dragon's back. You don't need to tell us what it was here (in fact it's probably best if you don't). But you should do some reflecting on your own behavior. If you are completely honest with yourself, I bet you will figure out what it was.
WOTC lies. We know that WOTC lies. WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. We know that WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. And still they lie.
Because of the above (a paraphrase from Orwell) I no longer post to the forums -- PM me if you need help or anything.
I damaged another player as a character choice, but it only happened once, and it was in our last session
Our dm said nothing of damaging another player, could this be the case?
( Threw dagger and it did little damage) as a threw since my character was scared of theirs
You're not going to find an answer here. We are not members of the group, and neither are we the DM of that group. We cannot tell you about their decision making, since we are 100% separate from it.
Have you asked the DM? That's the only way you're going to get a meaningful answer. But don't be a pest about it, either. They are under no obligation to explain to you if they do not want to.
I've had this happen.
It was a Roll20 / Discord thing, first session, the mission was to storm a cultist-infested fort and were currently surveying it. It looked like it would prove quite a challenge so one player decided he would go back to town and get some armour - he had "maybe'd" it earlier, deciding he would to see to see if he needed it now or could wait until a little later as it was going to cost a lot. The ride to where we were had been clear, so he decided to go back alone while we continuing stealthily surveying the fort at distance to judge the best way in. The DM decided for sake of brevity to just say he went and got the armour, then said on the way back he encountered bandits. Ok fine, the player knew that was the risk. The DM then stated the attacks were hitting his unarmoured AC, when it was asked why he said the character wasn't armoured because the player didn't specify this.
I found that unfair. So, being me, I spoke up. I queried why he had to specify it at all as it's pretty much a given the char would don it before heading back since we all spoke about the risks of bandits and it's also common sense. I also said the player had no opportunity to declare because the DM skipped all RP of this - the player even chimed in saying he did think the skipping-RP bit meant he didn't have to specify putting on armour. The DM said he'd retcon the attacks as they now miss - and this was quite good as the character would have been downed - and it would be discussed further after game about what players do and don't have to declare when DM skip-RP narrates, as there seemed to be misunderstanding between players and DM. Now that character was able to not get so hurt and escape to rejoin us.
After we entered the fort there was an incident I don't remember the full details. It was a battle and basically the DM entirely ignored what another player said and this resulted in the character taking a lot of damage. I felt I had missed something and so I don't look like an idiot or one of those "constantly challenge the DMs" players, sent a private message to the DM to ask about that. I was courteous about it, and was just checking if I may have missed something. He said the player had changed what they wanted - and indeed I had missed that line (it's text, not voice), I thanked him and apologised for missing that. He seemed cool about it.
The session otherwise went OK. After the session we brought up the armour thing and it showed that there was quite a bit of misunderstanding and most the players weren't happy about the DM's decision there. He said he understood and agreed that somethings should be assumed especially when skipping the RP of it where things were obvious (like putting on clothes after waking up so we're not all walking through town naked, and similarly putting on the armour just purchased specifically to protect us on the road where we know bandits are possible before we go on the road). He then decided to bring up my misunderstanding and show everyone my PMs to him. I don't know why he did this, I explained again it was just me missing a line and I was confused, I apologised again, I did mention I wasn't happy about a private message made public, and he did apologise for that in a sarcastic way. I decided to ignore that. We all continued chatting a bit - everyone was happy, I did apologise to the DM about raising those discussions, and he said it was fine and in the case of the armour, it was a good thing. I even had other players thanking me for that - especially the player with the armour, since he would have lost his character otherwise. Everything seemed great then.
Ah, no. I logged in next session to find myself kicked from the Roll20 group and the Discord channel. No messages or anything. I tried to message him on Roll20 - I was blocked. I message him on Discord to ask what was going on and if I caused any offense I was sorry. He told me he didn't like being challenged and the others didn't like me doing that either (blatant lie). I responded to say I was sorry, I wasn't trying to challenge just wanted to get this straight as there was confusion and it seemed to have even be helpful. He replied saying he didn't care and if I messaged him again he was going to press charges for harassment, then he blocked me.
Some DMs have fragile egos. They want puppets to their story and if you don't like their cheating DM vs PC ways you get ban-hammered out of the group. You're better off.
Personally, I ended up joining a group which I've been with since. The DM is fantastic and there's been absolutely no issues. He even encourages us to remind him of certain things if he forgets, seeing it as helpful not a challenge. So while it isn't a nice experience to get kicked from a group, especially if you haven't done anything, just try to see it as a positive: you're free to find a group that you'll probably enjoy much, much, better.
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I think some of this comes from people who start out as strangers and don't know each other, and now on top of that with covid it is all done online through things like discord, which are far from perfect... and when there is a misunderstanding it can lead to all kinds of explosions that wouldn't have happened when playing with people you know around a table.
WOTC lies. We know that WOTC lies. WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. We know that WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. And still they lie.
Because of the above (a paraphrase from Orwell) I no longer post to the forums -- PM me if you need help or anything.
Also, as a side note... if your Online name is the same as your forum name, someone at the table may have taken offense... of course, that should have been noticed at the beginning and not 3 months into the campaign.
That are two possible red flags, that might trigger your DM... but that is just wild guessing and such things might run deeper than presented...
Methinks there is a lot of this story we're not hearing.
Any time an unfathomably powerful entity sweeps in and offers godlike rewards in return for just a few teensy favors, it’s a scam. Unless it’s me. I’d never lie to you, reader dearest.
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There are alot of whacko players out there so the DM does not have to put up with that sort of stuff, I have heard mom's or wives screaming in the back round, I have had people with bad mics or bad internet, I have had people who swear in every sentence they utter, I have had players that will interrupt other players consistently, I have had pervert players who lack any respect for female players, I have had players whom I booted right off the bat who want to play little kids ( that creeps me out alot), I have had to suffer through reading some whakos homo erotic 7500 word doc (could not get past the first sentence but still got the gist of her document) So ya, I am one of those DM's that will boot you without batting an eye. There are alot of odd and weird players out there that is for sure.
I agree. Something seems off about this whole thing.
WOTC lies. We know that WOTC lies. WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. We know that WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. And still they lie.
Because of the above (a paraphrase from Orwell) I no longer post to the forums -- PM me if you need help or anything.
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I have never heard of anybody being kicked out of a group for no reason. There’s always a reason, even if it seems silly.
Yes, but all of us are unlikely to ever know what that reason is unless everyone else in the group comes here to give their side of the story. Which is quite unlikely.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.