Jeremy Crawford said some EE spells we're updated in Xanathar's to make them better. There doesn't seem to be a way to filter for that. Does anyone know what spells we're updated?
I really do not know. Technically, for PotA it has not been issued an errata from WotC regarding these changes.
So there should be two versions listed and not have them overwritten. Can we have a list of which ones were changed?
The latest publication or errata is the correct version.
I don't think you're understanding. He said some EE spells we're updated for the Xanathar's book. There has been no errata for the EE spells so you have two options use the EE one or the Xanathar's one. I just really want to know which ones were updated.
The official stance is that the new XGtE versions have replaced the EE versions of the spells. They should be considered as errata. The old versions of the spells are gone.
I have no idea whether Wizards plan to release an errata sheet on this, but if they do, I doubt it will be prior to the full release of XGtE in about 10 days.
The official stance is that the new XGtE versions have replaced the EE versions of the spells. They should be considered as errata. The old versions of the spells are gone.
I have no idea whether Wizards plan to release an errata sheet on this, but if they do, I doubt it will be prior to the full release of XGtE in about 10 days.
Okay you guys don't know which ones were replaced do you? I'd hate to have to go spell by spell and compare.
The official stance is that the new XGtE versions have replaced the EE versions of the spells. They should be considered as errata. The old versions of the spells are gone.
I have no idea whether Wizards plan to release an errata sheet on this, but if they do, I doubt it will be prior to the full release of XGtE in about 10 days.
Okay you guys don't know which ones were replaced do you? I'd hate to have to go spell by spell and compare.
I looked around the internet for a bit. I found that the following have been changed:
I know parts of Ceremony got updated from the UA it was part of. The bonus to AC and Saves used to only last 24 hours when you used the Marriage option. Now they last 7 days.
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Not sure about those three in particular, but some of the EE spells were made available to more spellcasting classes, but otherwise unchanged. Maybe that's what is up with Pyrotechnics, Transmute Rock, and Watery Sphere.
+ "Nonmagical plants in the area that aren’t creatures, such as trees and shrubs, wither and die instantly."
Bones of the Earth:
"...you can target ground under a creature..." -> "...you can target the ground under a creature..."
"...with a 10-foot radius. The rubble lasts until cleared." -> "...with a 10-foot radius that lasts until the rubble is cleared. Each 5-foot-diameter portion of the area requires at least 1 minute to clear by hand."
"saving throw DC" -> "save DC"
Catapult:
"Range: 150 feet" -> "Range: 60 feet"
"In either case, both the object and the creature or solid surface take..." -> "When the object strikes something, the object and what it strikes each take..."
Create Bonfire:
"Until the spells ends, the bonfire..." -> "Until the spell ends, the magic bonfire..."
"...when it enters the bonfire’s space..." -> "...when it moves into the bonfire’s space..."
+ "The bonfire ignites flammable objects in its area that aren’t being worn or carried."
"You cause a tremor in the ground in a 10-foot radius." -> "You cause a tremor in the ground within range."
+ "...with each 5-foot-diameter portion requiring at least 1 minute to clear by hand."
Ice Knife:
"Components: S, M (a drop of water or piece of ice)" -> "Components: S, M (a drop of water or a piece of ice)"
"The target and each creature within 5 feet of the point where the ice exploded must..." -> "The target and each creature within 5 feet of it must..."
Immolation:
"7d6" -> "8d6"
"3d6" -> "4d6"
"...can’t be extinguished through nonmagical means..." -> "...can’t be extinguished by nonmagical means..."
"...reduces a target to 0 hit points..." -> "...kills a target..."
Investiture of Stone:
"nonmagical weapons" -> "nonmagical attacks"
Maximilian's Earthen Grasp:
"...target, who must make..." -> "...target, which must make..."
"It takes..." -> "The target takes..."
"...the restrained target can make a Strength check..." -> "...the restrained target can use its action to make a Strength check..."
Pyrotechnics:
"...area of flame that you can see and that can fit within..." -> "...area of nonmagical flame that you can see and that fits within..."
"...and you create either fireworks or smoke." -> "...and you create either fireworks or smoke when you do so."
Thunderclap:
"Range: Self (5-foot radius)" -> "Range: 5 feet"
"...sound, which can be heard 100..." -> "...sound that can be heard up to 100..."
"Each creature other than you within 5 feet of you must make a Constitution saving throw. On a failed save, the creature takes 1d6 thunder damage." -> "Each creature within range, other than you, must succeed on a Constitution saving throw or take 1d6 thunder damage."
Tidal Wave:
"On a failure..." -> "On a failed save..."
"On a success..." -> "On a successful save..."
+ "...and then it vanishes."
Transmute Rock:
"Duration: Instantaneous" -> "Duration: Until dispelled"
"...40-foot cube and that is within range..." -> "...40-foot cube and is within range..."
"...thick and flowing mud..." -> "...thick, flowing mud..."
"If you cast the spell on an area of ground, it becomes..." -> "The ground in the spell’s area becomes..."
"...make this save the first time it enters the area on a turn..." -> "...make the saving throw when it moves into the area for the first time on a turn..."
"The restrained creature can use an action to try to break free..." -> "A restrained creature, or another creature within reach, can use an action..."
Vitriolic Sphere:
"You point at a place within range..." -> "You point at a location within range..."
+ "Nonmagical plants in the area that aren’t creatures, such as trees and shrubs, wither and die instantly."
Bones of the Earth:
"...you can target ground under a creature..." -> "...you can target the ground under a creature..."
"...with a 10-foot radius. The rubble lasts until cleared." -> "...with a 10-foot radius that lasts until the rubble is cleared. Each 5-foot-diameter portion of the area requires at least 1 minute to clear by hand."
"saving throw DC" -> "save DC"
Catapult:
"Range: 150 feet" -> "Range: 60 feet"
"In either case, both the object and the creature or solid surface take..." -> "When the object strikes something, the object and what it strikes each take..."
Create Bonfire:
"Until the spells ends, the bonfire..." -> "Until the spell ends, the magic bonfire..."
"...when it enters the bonfire’s space..." -> "...when it moves into the bonfire’s space..."
+ "The bonfire ignites flammable objects in its area that aren’t being worn or carried."
"You cause a tremor in the ground in a 10-foot radius." -> "You cause a tremor in the ground within range."
+ "...with each 5-foot-diameter portion requiring at least 1 minute to clear by hand."
Ice Knife:
"Components: S, M (a drop of water or piece of ice)" -> "Components: S, M (a drop of water or a piece of ice)"
"The target and each creature within 5 feet of the point where the ice exploded must..." -> "The target and each creature within 5 feet of it must..."
Immolation:
"7d6" -> "8d6"
"3d6" -> "4d6"
"...can’t be extinguished through nonmagical means..." -> "...can’t be extinguished by nonmagical means..."
"...reduces a target to 0 hit points..." -> "...kills a target..."
Investiture of Stone:
"nonmagical weapons" -> "nonmagical attacks"
Maximilian's Earthen Grasp:
"...target, who must make..." -> "...target, which must make..."
"It takes..." -> "The target takes..."
"...the restrained target can make a Strength check..." -> "...the restrained target can use its action to make a Strength check..."
Pyrotechnics:
"...area of flame that you can see and that can fit within..." -> "...area of nonmagical flame that you can see and that fits within..."
"...and you create either fireworks or smoke." -> "...and you create either fireworks or smoke when you do so."
Thunderclap:
"Range: Self (5-foot radius)" -> "Range: 5 feet"
"...sound, which can be heard 100..." -> "...sound that can be heard up to 100..."
"Each creature other than you within 5 feet of you must make a Constitution saving throw. On a failed save, the creature takes 1d6 thunder damage." -> "Each creature within range, other than you, must succeed on a Constitution saving throw or take 1d6 thunder damage."
Tidal Wave:
"On a failure..." -> "On a failed save..."
"On a success..." -> "On a successful save..."
+ "...and then it vanishes."
Transmute Rock:
"Duration: Instantaneous" -> "Duration: Until dispelled"
"...40-foot cube and that is within range..." -> "...40-foot cube and is within range..."
"...thick and flowing mud..." -> "...thick, flowing mud..."
"If you cast the spell on an area of ground, it becomes..." -> "The ground in the spell’s area becomes..."
"...make this save the first time it enters the area on a turn..." -> "...make the saving throw when it moves into the area for the first time on a turn..."
"The restrained creature can use an action to try to break free..." -> "A restrained creature, or another creature within reach, can use an action..."
Vitriolic Sphere:
"You point at a place within range..." -> "You point at a location within range..."
Jeremy Crawford said some EE spells we're updated in Xanathar's to make them better. There doesn't seem to be a way to filter for that. Does anyone know what spells we're updated?
Here is what I mean, he says this at 10:30 in the video. I would think I would see the EE version and XGtE version here on the site. Thoughts?
https://youtu.be/QkU4hELM2Os
The spells from the EE that have been changed in XGtE have been overwritten in the listing. You see only the final version of those.
So these are officially errata for EE then?
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The official stance is that the new XGtE versions have replaced the EE versions of the spells. They should be considered as errata. The old versions of the spells are gone.
I have no idea whether Wizards plan to release an errata sheet on this, but if they do, I doubt it will be prior to the full release of XGtE in about 10 days.
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I know parts of Ceremony got updated from the UA it was part of. The bonus to AC and Saves used to only last 24 hours when you used the Marriage option. Now they last 7 days.
Abi-Dalzim’s Horrid Wilting
Damage goes up 2d8 to 12d8, and non-magical plants are automatically... wilted.
Immolation
Damage up 1d6 to 8d6, and ongoing damage also up 1d6 to 4d6.
Pyrotechnics
Looks the same to me — what am I missing?
Transmute Rock
Ditto. What's changed?
Watery Sphere
... and also this one.Not sure about those three in particular, but some of the EE spells were made available to more spellcasting classes, but otherwise unchanged. Maybe that's what is up with Pyrotechnics, Transmute Rock, and Watery Sphere.
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Awesome — thanks.
Sorcerer spell list additions:
Wizard spell list additions:
Damage changes:
Range changes:
Duration changes:
Area changes:
Text changes:
Credit to dingosatemyusername on Reddit for finding all the spells that changed.