To Prove D&D Exists for Echolon

OOC: So before I do the dumb, lemme ask.  Mage Hand specifies "the hand cannot activate magic items."  The 'activation' requirement of the immovable rod is literally just "push a button."  Totall get Mage Hand not being able to use a Wand of Magic Missile or the like, but could I safely presume that clicking a button is within the scope of Ilyara's Mage Hand Legerdemain, as an Arcane Trickster who's specifically trained in expanded use of the spell?

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OOC: So before I do the dumb, lemme ask.  Mage Hand specifies "the hand cannot activate magic items."  The 'activation' requirement of the immovable rod is literally just "push a button."  Totall get Mage Hand not being able to use a Wand of Magic Missile or the like, but could I safely presume that clicking a button is within the scope of Ilyara's Mage Hand Legerdemain, as an Arcane Trickster who's specifically trained in expanded use of the spell?

 OOC: Well...RAW you can't - like a dead guy's finger can't activate an ipad. But I'm a fairly reasonable guy and what you might want to do seems like a good plan.

So go ahead.

OOC: I just want to make sure I’m on the right page with everyone else. Is this basically* correct? (*Lines indicating inclines not accurate to angles listed.)

The arrow pointing down is the door we are entering through, and basically where Ily lost her footing (pawing?!?), is that right? And the distances too? And the general slant of the floor, yes!

OOC: YES! =)

Pretty much just like that.

OOC: Well that changes things.  This room sucks.  Hm.  Lemme ruminate a bit.

"Not a ninja roll (winks at Toots) but maybe we can dagger crawl the floor, but I don't know if Nine's got the grace to keep up with us.  Maybe one of us should cross to make sure it's worth it for the whole party, maybe dragging a line too we can set as a hand guide case someone takes those gutters too fast?  I mean, we can always throw ourselves into the gullet of doors we left down the other corridor instead."

OOC: While I dug the sequence on Kashyyk's mud, I found those ice slides in Jedi: Fallen Order tee-dee-ous.  I need to get back to that game, actually, I think I got at least a year or two before the sequel.

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"Not a ninja roll (winks at Toots) but maybe we can dagger crawl the floor, but I don't know if Nine's got the grace to keep up with us.  Maybe one of us should cross to make sure it's worth it for the whole party, maybe dragging a line too we can set as a hand guide case someone takes those gutters too fast?  I mean, we can always throw ourselves into the gullet of doors we left down the other corridor instead."

OOC: While I dug the sequence on Kashyyk's mud, I found those ice slides in Jedi: Fallen Order tee-dee-ous.  I need to get back to that game, actually, I think I got at least a year or two before the sequel.

 Poking at the polished surface reveals that no purchase can be made, the blade just slips free.

"Okay...so.  With a little boost from the zombie man, I might be able to Flying Grayfur my way across," Ilyara said, staring dubiously at the rather dastardly room.  Such a simple trap, and yet one so difficult to circumvent...  "Huck me over the first set'a spikes, I slide a ways, then jump up and use this thing as a sorta midair trapeze bar and build up some more momentum," she said, patting her immovable rod.  "Then skid down t'other side of the middle slope, and then I'm close to the other door I jump again and hit the steps.  I'm trained in that kinna grandstandin', used to do tumbling shows back in Lowtown, but there's also 'bout a hunnerd ways it could go wrong..." she said, clearly not even remotely sold on her own plan.  "Rod could save me from a fall into the spikes, but if I'm on that side instead'a this one there's no way you lot could rescue me.  And me being able to fancyfox my way over there doesn't necessarily help you lot...'specially the zombie...  Hrrn.  Rough puzzle.  Anyone else got any ideas less likely t'end up with my hindparts fulla ancient tetanus skewers?"

"Maybe it's lacquered, and we can burn it off," Tommary suggests producing an eternal flame candle from who knows where.

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"Maybe it's lacquered, and we can burn it off," Tommary suggests producing an eternal flame candle from who knows where.

 The flame has no effect other than to look shiny.

"Wait, how long does Ely's thing go in ladder mode?"

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"Wait, how long does Ely's thing go in ladder mode?"

 
“I don’t think that’s gonna make it th’ whole way across….”

OOC:

50 feet, I thought of that last night and rejected it when I counted the hexes. That’s why I made sure to ask about the 80 foot length of the room.

The only solutions I came up with so far are not anything Toots would come up with. (I don’t even know if she could.) And even if we do, I’m not even entirely sure how we would pull either one off.

Plan A:

It basically involves MacGyvering together a cross between a suspension bridge and a crane head. Even if Toots might come up with it, I’m not sure its actually possible RAW, so it would take a nod up-and-down from Wysp. Even if we get that nod, I’m not sure we have enough rope. (And even if we can, and have enough rope, I’m not entirely sure it would even work….)

Plan B:

This one is basically MacGuyvering together a contraption that would (hopefully) work like a combination of one of those equipment ramps on a fulcrum crossed with riding a sled (or shopping cart) down “suicide hill.” This one is waaayy less complicated, requires less rope, wouldn’t need a nod because we wouldn’t need to do anything funky like retracting and extending the RoLM mid use. But it’s also waaayy more potentially dangerous.

Once all the passengers have disembarked, we would either have to leave whichever of the two contraptions we used behind (in case we need to backtrack), disassemble it (however the **** we got it assembled) and hope we don’t have to backtrack, or disassemble it and be prepared to build it again if we need to.

If anyone else has any other plans, you have my attention. I pray someone has something more likely to work than my Plan A, and less likely to fail then my Plan B.

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"Okay...so.  With a little boost from the zombie man, I might be able to Flying Grayfur my way across," Ilyara said, staring dubiously at the rather dastardly room.  Such a simple trap, and yet one so difficult to circumvent...  "Huck me over the first set'a spikes, I slide a ways, then jump up and use this thing as a sorta midair trapeze bar and build up some more momentum," she said, patting her immovable rod.  "Then skid down t'other side of the middle slope, and then I'm close to the other door I jump again and hit the steps.  I'm trained in that kinna grandstandin', used to do tumbling shows back in Lowtown, but there's also 'bout a hunnerd ways it could go wrong..." she said, clearly not even remotely sold on her own plan.  "Rod could save me from a fall into the spikes, but if I'm on that side instead'a this one there's no way you lot could rescue me.  And me being able to fancyfox my way over there doesn't necessarily help you lot...'specially the zombie...  Hrrn.  Rough puzzle.  Anyone else got any ideas less likely t'end up with my hindparts fulla ancient tetanus skewers?"

 OOC: While that evokes a wonderful image, I don't think he can throw you very far sideways around a corner. The trapeze thing would need a couple actions. mmmm I suppose you could turn it on, swing a little, then turn it off (2 actions). I'd give it standing jump range or an Acrobatics check to swing farther (double).

Elyona peers inside the room, the leans back against the outside wall and looks deep in thought.  Finally she says, “No bright ideas are filling my head, I’m afraid.”

OOC: As magnificently Rube Goldberg-esque as those notions are Sposta, they're clearly an indication we're all overthinking this.

Wysp: what are the walls made of?  Anything we could, perchance, pound a piton into in order to string up a guiderope into with the help of a long ladder to stand on?

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OOC: As magnificently Rube Goldberg-esque as those notions are Sposta, they're clearly an indication we're all overthinking this.

Wysp: what are the walls made of?  Anything we could, perchance, pound a piton into in order to string up a guiderope into with the help of a long ladder to stand on?

 OOC: *Psst….*👇

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OOC: The door is very loose not like the other doors in the dungeon. Pressing on it makes it swing open easily, it closes on its own.

The floors are very slightly canted towards the pits (maybe 10-15 degrees). There is no spring or drop. Ilyara just could not get any kind of grip on the floor. Due to similar appearance, you would guess that the walls and ceiling are the same no grip surfaces.

OOC: Wysp, how high is the ceiling?

The only other, less “overthought” solutions I have are if Toots Polymorphs one of the party into either one of these two -huge snakes, (hopefully it would be close enough to 80 ft long), or a giant eagle / quetzalcoatlus to fly across (hopefully the ceiling is high enough).

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OOC: Wysp, how high is the ceiling?

The only other, less “overthought” solutions I have are if Toots Polymorphs one of the party into either one of these two -huge snakes, (hopefully it would be close enough to 80 ft long), or a giant eagle / quetzalcoatlus to fly across (hopefully the ceiling is high enough).

 10 feet high standard generic dungeon height =)

OOC: how about a sloth with good grip, or some sort of giant lizard/amphibian known for suction cups padding its grip?  Some sort of big insect?  Or I rub my hands with the mummy dust which will somehow enable me to "get over there" but with no recollection of how I pulled it off (still going back to the Big Lebowski). 

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OOC: Wysp, how high is the ceiling?

The only other, less “overthought” solutions I have are if Toots Polymorphs one of the party into either one of these two -huge snakes, (hopefully it would be close enough to 80 ft long), or a giant eagle / quetzalcoatlus to fly across (hopefully the ceiling is high enough).

 10 feet high standard generic dungeon height =)

 
OOC: Okie dokie artichkie, that rules out bigbird and the dino-flyer. So, I got snakes or MacGyver. Ho finito é basta.

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OOC: how about a sloth with good grip, or some sort of giant lizard/amphibian known for suction cups padding its grip?  Some sort of big insect?  Or I rub my hands with the mummy dust which will somehow enable me to "get over there" but with no recollection of how I pulled it off (still going back to the Big Lebowski). 

 
OOC: There’s the Giant Lizard (variant) / Giant Riding Lizard. No idea if they could overcome this shiny mushroom wood or not though. Anybody proficient in Nature / Animal Handling?

Edit: And there’s the Giant Spider, same caveat, same question.