I can't find any here and google just brings up them being mentioned in wiki's.
To be specific, I'm trying to find something about Shades, generally tied to the Netheril empire type of thing, especially if there's multiple tiers of them.
And just for final clarification, I mean the 'humanoid beings granted shadow powers with 'shadowstuff' etc. Shadow Dragons which are drow shades etc
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Or if ther isn't one, are there any monsters that can be used as a comparison? Such as a CR 10-15 'assassin' or 'caster' class that i could draw 'parallels' to?
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I'm looking more for NPC block stats, as the Netheril empire may eventually join my campaign setting, but if worst comes to worst, I'll wing the stat blocks if I have to
uh, 'shadow dragons which are drow shades'? what's that from? i thought shadow dragons were regular dragons stuck too long in the shadowfell. so you're saying a red dragon is a shadow dragon is a drow shade? i think shades are the humanoid equivalent of a dragon's shadow dragon. but anyway, i think you'd have to convert a prior edition's version of a shade to 5e.
also, not sure if shades are really tied to the netheril empire...the one city which is the last remnant of the empire is full of shades....but don't think shades are tied to the empire. i think it just so happened that the city probably provided the shadowfell with a large quantity of powerful humanoids...therefore a large quantity of shades were produced.
Shadow Sorcerer is kind of what you are talking about.
There is also the Mark of Shadow (Elf) from the Ebberon book.
The Monster Manual has something about Shadow Dragons, and Mordekainen's Tome of Foes has a couple of Shadow based elves - one drow and one Shadar-Kai.
But the Shadow Sorcerer is basically what you desire.
Shadow Sorcerer is kind of what you are talking about.
There is also the Mark of Shadow (Elf) from the Ebberon book.
The Monster Manual has something about Shadow Dragons, and Mordekainen's Tome of Foes has a couple of Shadow based elves - one drow and one Shadar-Kai.
But the Shadow Sorcerer is basically what you desire.
don't think so, he's looking for an actual shade stat block - its no longer a humanoid...just a floating shadow with maybe a heart, ribcage, and eyeballs...used to be humanoid before it was totally consumed by the shadowfell.
An option you could try out is choosing an appropriate Drow creature stat block and then applying parts of the Half-Dragon template and/or the Shadow Dragon Template.
Half-Dragon Template
A beast, Humanoid, giant, or Monstrosity can become a half-dragon. It keeps its Statistics, except as follow.
Challenge. To avoid recalculating the creature's Challenge rating, apply the template only to a creature that meets the options prerequisite in the Breath Weapon table below. Otherwise, recalculate the rating after you apply the template.
Senses. The half-dragon gains Blindsight with a radius of 10 feet and Darkvision with a radius of 60 feet.
Resistances. The half-dragon gains Resistance to a type of damage based on its color.
Color
Damage Resistance
Black or copper
Acid
Blue or bronze
Lightning
Brass, gold, or red
Fire
Green
Poison
Silver or white
Cold
Languages. The half-dragon speaks Draconic in addition to any other Languages it knows.
New Action: Breath Weapon. The half-dragon has the breath weapon of its Dragon half. The half-dragon's size determines how this action functions.
Size
Breath Weapon
Optional Prerequisite
Large or Smaller
As a wyrmling
Challenge 2 or higher
Huge
As a Young Dragon
Challenge 7 or higher
Gargantuan
As an adult Dragon
Challenge 8 or higher
Shadow Dragon Template
Only a true dragon can transform into a shadow dragon, and only if it is born in the Shadowfell or remains there for several years. A dracolich can't be turned into a shadow dragon, since it loses its draconic nature when it becomes undead.
When a dragon becomes a shadow dragon, it retains its statistics except as described below. The shadow dragon might retain or lose any or all of its lair actions or inherit new ones, as the DM sees fit.
Damage Resistances. The dragon has resistance to necrotic damage.
Skill Proficiency: Stealth. The dragon's proficiency bonus is doubled for its Dexterity (Stealth) checks.
Living Shadow.While in dim light or darkness, the dragon has resistance to damage that isn't force, psychic, or radiant.
Shadow Stealth. While in dim light or darkness, the dragon can take the Hide action as a bonus action.
Sunlight Sensitivity.While in sunlight, the dragon has disadvantage on attack rolls, as well as on Wisdom (Perception) checks that rely on sight.
New Action: Bite. If the dragon deals acid, cold, fire, lightning, or poison damage with its bite, change that damage type to necrotic.
New Action: Shadow Breath.Any damage-dealing breath weapon possessed by the dragon deals necrotic damage instead of its original damage type. A humanoid reduced to 0 hit points by this damage dies, and an undead shadow rises from its corpse and acts immediately after the dragon in the initiative count. The shadow is under the dragon's control.
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"Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup."
Shades have so far not been included in this edition. You could either update the older Shades to fit 5e, or start with a shadow and dial it up to match your expectations.
Shadow Sorcerer is kind of what you are talking about.
There is also the Mark of Shadow (Elf) from the Ebberon book.
The Monster Manual has something about Shadow Dragons, and Mordekainen's Tome of Foes has a couple of Shadow based elves - one drow and one Shadar-Kai.
But the Shadow Sorcerer is basically what you desire.
don't think so, he's looking for an actual shade stat block - its no longer a humanoid...just a floating shadow with maybe a heart, ribcage, and eyeballs...used to be humanoid before it was totally consumed by the shadowfell.
I am looking for shades like the Drow shades from Netheril.
Like the Shadovar.
This is mostly coming from a series of books I believe to be written by R.A. Salvatore, the main character is a butler to some family but who's actually an assassin, he eventually becomes the first 'human' shade. He has a Teifling mage friend with 'issues' and some guy with a dog who really loves his dog. I just can't for the life of me remember the name of the series.
yeah, the shadovar are just floating ribcages & eyeballs when you get through the illusion...not much humanity left in them. Return of the Archwizards is a 4-book trilogy that's all about them.
yeah, the shadovar are just floating ribcages & eyeballs when you get through the illusion...not much humanity left in them. Return of the Archwizards is a 4-book trilogy that's all about them.
That might be it.
Does one of them say "I *am* POWER!" at some point?
Shadow Sorcerer is kind of what you are talking about.
There is also the Mark of Shadow (Elf) from the Ebberon book.
The Monster Manual has something about Shadow Dragons, and Mordekainen's Tome of Foes has a couple of Shadow based elves - one drow and one Shadar-Kai.
But the Shadow Sorcerer is basically what you desire.
don't think so, he's looking for an actual shade stat block - its no longer a humanoid...just a floating shadow with maybe a heart, ribcage, and eyeballs...used to be humanoid before it was totally consumed by the shadowfell.
I am looking for shades like the Drow shades from Netheril.
Like the Shadovar.
This is mostly coming from a series of books I believe to be written by R.A. Salvatore, the main character is a butler to some family but who's actually an assassin, he eventually becomes the first 'human' shade. He has a Teifling mage friend with 'issues' and some guy with a dog who really loves his dog. I just can't for the life of me remember the name of the series.
But keywords like Shade Enclave, Netheril, etc.
Erevis Cale is the character you are referring to. First chosen of Mask. He becomes a shade at the end of the first trilogy, written by Paul S. Kemp. The 2nd trilogy, The Twilight War, is about his fight against the Shadovar as a Shade.
good sir the author is Paul S. Kemp and the series there are 8 books total. the shadow witness is the first book part of a series called Sembia gateway to the realms then Erevis Cale got his own series first books is called Twilight falling, dawn of night and midnights's mask that trilogy is called the Erevis Cale Trilogy then next comes the Twilight war Trilogy then comes the final book called godborn if you enjoy any of those books it helps just wanted to let you know
I did actually read all those, and that was in part why i asked. Though when I asked i couldn't remember the name of the books as it had been a few years since i read some of them.
I was looking for shade stat blocks to create some encounters with as I plan to have a mid-finale with them before the campaign end.
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I can't find any here and google just brings up them being mentioned in wiki's.
To be specific, I'm trying to find something about Shades, generally tied to the Netheril empire type of thing, especially if there's multiple tiers of them.
And just for final clarification, I mean the 'humanoid beings granted shadow powers with 'shadowstuff' etc. Shadow Dragons which are drow shades etc
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Or if ther isn't one, are there any monsters that can be used as a comparison? Such as a CR 10-15 'assassin' or 'caster' class that i could draw 'parallels' to?
Occassional Dungeon Master.
I made a CR 5 Assassin Wraith for my homebrew campaign, but I'm not sure whether that would work for what you have in mind.
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If there was no light, people wouldn't fear the dark.
I'm looking more for NPC block stats, as the Netheril empire may eventually join my campaign setting, but if worst comes to worst, I'll wing the stat blocks if I have to
Occassional Dungeon Master.
uh, 'shadow dragons which are drow shades'? what's that from? i thought shadow dragons were regular dragons stuck too long in the shadowfell. so you're saying a red dragon is a shadow dragon is a drow shade? i think shades are the humanoid equivalent of a dragon's shadow dragon. but anyway, i think you'd have to convert a prior edition's version of a shade to 5e.
also, not sure if shades are really tied to the netheril empire...the one city which is the last remnant of the empire is full of shades....but don't think shades are tied to the empire. i think it just so happened that the city probably provided the shadowfell with a large quantity of powerful humanoids...therefore a large quantity of shades were produced.
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Drow-Dragons were an offshoot of Shadow Dragons and Drow from 3rd edition, that might be what the Op is referring to.
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Shadow Sorcerer is kind of what you are talking about.
There is also the Mark of Shadow (Elf) from the Ebberon book.
The Monster Manual has something about Shadow Dragons, and Mordekainen's Tome of Foes has a couple of Shadow based elves - one drow and one Shadar-Kai.
But the Shadow Sorcerer is basically what you desire.
don't think so, he's looking for an actual shade stat block - its no longer a humanoid...just a floating shadow with maybe a heart, ribcage, and eyeballs...used to be humanoid before it was totally consumed by the shadowfell.
Guide to the Five Factions (PWYW)
Deck of Decks
An option you could try out is choosing an appropriate Drow creature stat block and then applying parts of the Half-Dragon template and/or the Shadow Dragon Template.
Half-Dragon Template
A beast, Humanoid, giant, or Monstrosity can become a half-dragon. It keeps its Statistics, except as follow.
Challenge. To avoid recalculating the creature's Challenge rating, apply the template only to a creature that meets the options prerequisite in the Breath Weapon table below. Otherwise, recalculate the rating after you apply the template.
Senses. The half-dragon gains Blindsight with a radius of 10 feet and Darkvision with a radius of 60 feet.
Resistances. The half-dragon gains Resistance to a type of damage based on its color.
Languages. The half-dragon speaks Draconic in addition to any other Languages it knows.
New Action: Breath Weapon. The half-dragon has the breath weapon of its Dragon half. The half-dragon's size determines how this action functions.
Challenge 8 or higher
Shadow Dragon Template
Only a true dragon can transform into a shadow dragon, and only if it is born in the Shadowfell or remains there for several years. A dracolich can't be turned into a shadow dragon, since it loses its draconic nature when it becomes undead.
When a dragon becomes a shadow dragon, it retains its statistics except as described below. The shadow dragon might retain or lose any or all of its lair actions or inherit new ones, as the DM sees fit.
Damage Resistances. The dragon has resistance to necrotic damage.
Skill Proficiency: Stealth. The dragon's proficiency bonus is doubled for its Dexterity (Stealth) checks.
Living Shadow. While in dim light or darkness, the dragon has resistance to damage that isn't force, psychic, or radiant.
Shadow Stealth. While in dim light or darkness, the dragon can take the Hide action as a bonus action.
Sunlight Sensitivity. While in sunlight, the dragon has disadvantage on attack rolls, as well as on Wisdom (Perception) checks that rely on sight.
New Action: Bite. If the dragon deals acid, cold, fire, lightning, or poison damage with its bite, change that damage type to necrotic.
New Action: Shadow Breath. Any damage-dealing breath weapon possessed by the dragon deals necrotic damage instead of its original damage type. A humanoid reduced to 0 hit points by this damage dies, and an undead shadow rises from its corpse and acts immediately after the dragon in the initiative count. The shadow is under the dragon's control.
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Unless you are looking specifically for shades. Unfortunately shade-like creatures are few and far between.
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Shades have so far not been included in this edition. You could either update the older Shades to fit 5e, or start with a shadow and dial it up to match your expectations.
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I am looking for shades like the Drow shades from Netheril.
Like the Shadovar.
This is mostly coming from a series of books I believe to be written by R.A. Salvatore, the main character is a butler to some family but who's actually an assassin, he eventually becomes the first 'human' shade. He has a Teifling mage friend with 'issues' and some guy with a dog who really loves his dog. I just can't for the life of me remember the name of the series.
But keywords like Shade Enclave, Netheril, etc.
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yeah, the shadovar are just floating ribcages & eyeballs when you get through the illusion...not much humanity left in them. Return of the Archwizards is a 4-book trilogy that's all about them.
Guide to the Five Factions (PWYW)
Deck of Decks
That might be it.
Does one of them say "I *am* POWER!" at some point?
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And to the others who've responded whom i haven't replied directly to, thanks for your assistance. I'll look into the things that have been mentioned.
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Erevis Cale is the character you are referring to. First chosen of Mask. He becomes a shade at the end of the first trilogy, written by Paul S. Kemp. The 2nd trilogy, The Twilight War, is about his fight against the Shadovar as a Shade.
good sir the author is Paul S. Kemp and the series there are 8 books total. the shadow witness is the first book part of a series called Sembia gateway to the realms then Erevis Cale got his own series first books is called Twilight falling, dawn of night and midnights's mask that trilogy is called the Erevis Cale Trilogy then next comes the Twilight war Trilogy then comes the final book called godborn if you enjoy any of those books it helps just wanted to let you know
I did actually read all those, and that was in part why i asked. Though when I asked i couldn't remember the name of the books as it had been a few years since i read some of them.
I was looking for shade stat blocks to create some encounters with as I plan to have a mid-finale with them before the campaign end.
Occassional Dungeon Master.