Since this is the rules forum, I'll point out that a natural 20 on an ability check is not an auto-success. That being said, at many tables including my own, the rule of cool often prevails on these situation and that's fine. But there are limits.
A natural 20 on an ability check is just a 20. As you mentioned, if the number rolled plus the appropriate bonus/penalty isn't equal to the DC (or higher) then the skill check is unsuccessful.
Natural 20 being a critical hit applies only to attack rolls.
A natural 20 on an ability check is just a 20. As you mentioned, if the number rolled plus the appropriate bonus/penalty isn't equal to the DC (or higher) then the skill check is unsuccessful.
Natural 20 being a critical hit applies only to attack rolls.
Since this is the rules forum, I'll point out that a natural 20 on an ability check is not an auto-success. That being said, at many tables including my own, the rule of cool often prevails on these situation and that's fine. But there are limits.
Thank you both. I was unaware of this, and you've cleared it up for me. You've really helped this starting DM out here haha
And even if you are using the common "Nat 20 = success on any roll" house rule then it is still up to you the DM to decide when a dice should be rolled. If a player tries to move an enormous rock you could call for an athletics check even though the DC is above what they might ever roll, allowing for a Nat 20 alone to succeed, or you can just say "the rock is too big to move". If you are using 20=success then you accept that whenever you let the player roll a dice they have at least a 1 in 20 chance of passing the check. If you are comfortable with that then let them roll and get ready to invent cool explanations for why that thing worked despite the odds.
"Rolling 1 or 20. W hen you make a death saving throw and roll a 1 on the d20, it counts as two failures. If you roll a 20 on the d20, you regain 1 hit point."
Late to the party, but strong agree. If there isn't any chance that the player succeeds at this check, or even moreso if you as a DM *aren't prepared for a successful outcome*, don't allow them to make a check.
If I'm a player and I ask if I can persuade the king to give over his crown and agree to a threeway with me and his daughter, I totally understand if you won't allow a roll or just instantly have me arrested. But if you let me throw the dice and then tell me a nat 20 with a +10 mod doesn't get it done, I'ma be kinda pissed.
If I'm a player and I ask if I can persuade the king to give over his crown and agree to a threeway with me and his daughter, I totally understand if you won't allow a roll or just instantly have me arrested.
That is an excellent opportunity for gift of gab when the answer to that proposal doesn't go your way.
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So I have a thing on my mind.
Imagine: An obstacle appears. The dc is 26. Player throws and...
Nat 20.
Insta win right?
But what if the player only has a plus +2 on their check, or even better, a -1
They don't make the dc, but it is a Nat 20.
What happens?
*deadpan* Oh no, don't do that.
Since this is the rules forum, I'll point out that a natural 20 on an ability check is not an auto-success. That being said, at many tables including my own, the rule of cool often prevails on these situation and that's fine. But there are limits.
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A natural 20 on an ability check is just a 20. As you mentioned, if the number rolled plus the appropriate bonus/penalty isn't equal to the DC (or higher) then the skill check is unsuccessful.
Natural 20 being a critical hit applies only to attack rolls.
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Thank you both. I was unaware of this, and you've cleared it up for me. You've really helped this starting DM out here haha
*deadpan* Oh no, don't do that.
And even if you are using the common "Nat 20 = success on any roll" house rule then it is still up to you the DM to decide when a dice should be rolled. If a player tries to move an enormous rock you could call for an athletics check even though the DC is above what they might ever roll, allowing for a Nat 20 alone to succeed, or you can just say "the rock is too big to move". If you are using 20=success then you accept that whenever you let the player roll a dice they have at least a 1 in 20 chance of passing the check. If you are comfortable with that then let them roll and get ready to invent cool explanations for why that thing worked despite the odds.
Natural 20 also recovers 1HP when doing death saves.
A common house rule, but untrue. It only provides 2 successes, like a 1 produces 2 failures
Page 197 PHB:
"Rolling 1 or 20. W hen you make a death saving throw and roll a 1 on the d20, it counts as two failures. If you roll a 20 on the d20, you regain 1 hit point."
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Late to the party, but strong agree. If there isn't any chance that the player succeeds at this check, or even moreso if you as a DM *aren't prepared for a successful outcome*, don't allow them to make a check.
If I'm a player and I ask if I can persuade the king to give over his crown and agree to a threeway with me and his daughter, I totally understand if you won't allow a roll or just instantly have me arrested. But if you let me throw the dice and then tell me a nat 20 with a +10 mod doesn't get it done, I'ma be kinda pissed.
That is an excellent opportunity for gift of gab when the answer to that proposal doesn't go your way.
"Not all those who wander are lost"