"A little. Usually this nice kobold has a blowtorch, but she's not here right now."
"Do you know what's inside?"
"Hmm..... Treasure maybe?"
"I can open it for you. But only if you do me a small favor."
"Whats the favor?"
"I just want you to find someone, and bring them here."
"Who do i need to find if i agree to this?" Avery asks, tilting their head
"That's a secret, unless you agree. But they won't be hard to find or bring here."
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"A little. Usually this nice kobold has a blowtorch, but she's not here right now."
"Do you know what's inside?"
"Hmm..... Treasure maybe?"
"I can open it for you. But only if you do me a small favor."
"Whats the favor?"
"I just want you to find someone, and bring them here."
"Who do i need to find if i agree to this?" Avery asks, tilting their head
"That's a secret, unless you agree. But they won't be hard to find or bring here."
"Uhhhh....." Avery fiddles with the lock for a few moments, "Ok, sure."
Xorius places his hand on the lock, causing it to melt.
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"A little. Usually this nice kobold has a blowtorch, but she's not here right now."
"Do you know what's inside?"
"Hmm..... Treasure maybe?"
"I can open it for you. But only if you do me a small favor."
"Whats the favor?"
"I just want you to find someone, and bring them here."
"Who do i need to find if i agree to this?" Avery asks, tilting their head
"That's a secret, unless you agree. But they won't be hard to find or bring here."
"Uhhhh....." Avery fiddles with the lock for a few moments, "Ok, sure."
Xorius places his hand on the lock, causing it to melt.
"Thanks sir," Avery grins, opening the chest
Xorius glances inside it.
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"A little. Usually this nice kobold has a blowtorch, but she's not here right now."
"Do you know what's inside?"
"Hmm..... Treasure maybe?"
"I can open it for you. But only if you do me a small favor."
"Whats the favor?"
"I just want you to find someone, and bring them here."
"Who do i need to find if i agree to this?" Avery asks, tilting their head
"That's a secret, unless you agree. But they won't be hard to find or bring here."
"Uhhhh....." Avery fiddles with the lock for a few moments, "Ok, sure."
Xorius places his hand on the lock, causing it to melt.
"Thanks sir," Avery grins, opening the chest
Xorius glances inside it.
Its filled with an assortmant of items. precious stones, metals, and other objects made of those stones and metals. Avery claps, "Loot!"
"Once you're done with obsessing over that, it's time for you to complete your end of the deal."
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"A little. Usually this nice kobold has a blowtorch, but she's not here right now."
"Do you know what's inside?"
"Hmm..... Treasure maybe?"
"I can open it for you. But only if you do me a small favor."
"Whats the favor?"
"I just want you to find someone, and bring them here."
"Who do i need to find if i agree to this?" Avery asks, tilting their head
"That's a secret, unless you agree. But they won't be hard to find or bring here."
"Uhhhh....." Avery fiddles with the lock for a few moments, "Ok, sure."
Xorius places his hand on the lock, causing it to melt.
"Thanks sir," Avery grins, opening the chest
Xorius glances inside it.
Its filled with an assortmant of items. precious stones, metals, and other objects made of those stones and metals. Avery claps, "Loot!"
"Once you're done with obsessing over that, it's time for you to complete your end of the deal."
Avery nods, "Who must i find?"
*Would you prefer Discord or a PM?*
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"A little. Usually this nice kobold has a blowtorch, but she's not here right now."
"Do you know what's inside?"
"Hmm..... Treasure maybe?"
"I can open it for you. But only if you do me a small favor."
"Whats the favor?"
"I just want you to find someone, and bring them here."
"Who do i need to find if i agree to this?" Avery asks, tilting their head
"That's a secret, unless you agree. But they won't be hard to find or bring here."
"Uhhhh....." Avery fiddles with the lock for a few moments, "Ok, sure."
Xorius places his hand on the lock, causing it to melt.
"Thanks sir," Avery grins, opening the chest
Xorius glances inside it.
Its filled with an assortmant of items. precious stones, metals, and other objects made of those stones and metals. Avery claps, "Loot!"
"Once you're done with obsessing over that, it's time for you to complete your end of the deal."
Avery nods, "Who must i find?"
*Would you prefer Discord or a PM?*
*PM, i don't have discord*
*Alright.*
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"Indeed. Please don't jump to any conclusions about Soldaer though. While he does seem to enjoy the thrill of battle, he doesn't actively seek it out. After all, he is a disciple of Eilistraee and Mielikki above all else." Reirlin says. "Ine the years we spent adventuring with him, he never once started a fight, but he always won those that couldn't be avoided."
"I'm sorry, but I don't know who either of those people are."
"Do you have the Drow in your world? And if so, was there a great Drow-elf war, one that started in the Pantheon itself with Lloth and the Seldarine?" Egrien asks.
"Dark elves exist in Borrelia. But I've never heard of the Seldarine."
"The Seldarine is the Elf sub-pantheon, led by Correlon Larethian. Lloth was originally part of the Seldarine, and actually Correlon's Consort in the dawn ages."
*Suffice to say that between Egrien and Reirlin, they piece together they major parts of the basics of Lloth and the War on the Seldarine.*
"Things aren't that way in Borrelia. There were three major elven deities: Arvinal, Rósonon, and Xenestyä. While the majority of elves remained loyal to these gods, a traitorous faction began to experiment with demon summoning, becoming more and more obsessed with the Abyss and the power that it held. Fearful, the rest of their kind drove them underground, where they were corrupted by a demon lord named Lolth, becoming the dark elves."
"Interesting. Well, during the war, most of the Drow joined with Lloth, but a few saw through her lies, and stayed true to the teachings of Correlon Larethian. Those people forsook the name 'Drow', and started calling themselves the 'Twilight Elves', Soldaer's kin. The Drow feel upon the Twilight Elves with a vengeance for 'forsaking' the teachings of Lloth. Eilistraee was Lloth's daughter, but took more after Correlon, her father. She protected the Twilight Elves from the wrath of the Drow, and has been their Matron Goddess ever since."
Egrien continues. "Mielikki is a nature deity. She is one of the most common deities to be worshipped by rangers. One of her primary tenets is to protect civilization from the wilds, and those intent on destroying it."
"Are the wilds really that bad? Kingdoms are full of hatred and corruption. Laws only allow people to be hurt without any consequences."
"In my world, yes. There are many pseudo-intelligent creatures, and even sentient creatures, who absolutely want to kill anything, or anyone, they come across. If you ever journey to our world, you will see what I mean." Reirlin explains. "As far as your claims regarding laws and kingdoms, they're unfortunately true in many worlds. Luckily, it isn't true, at least not for the most part, on my world. In fact, the Twilight Elves of the Fírantín Forest are allies with a strong and just coalition of four kingdoms known as the Winged Alliance. Between these five groups, they protect much of the continent of Hyperia from the goblinoids, orcs, and evil giantkin."
Mithris gives a sad smile. "My people have thought of the orcs and giants as enemies for a very long time. I think I might be the only one of us to ever see them differently."
Egrien returns that smile. "It is unfortunately true that, for the most part at least, those races are usually evil. There are occasionally exceptions, but those are very rare." Both he and Reirlin sigh and take drinks from their mugs.
"No species is evil. Some beings from the Outer Planes might be, but humanoids aren't. Neither are dragons, or giants, or even fey."
"Perhaps. But, at least in our world, and most worlds we have been to, there are indeed 'good' and 'evil' races. Whether that is part of the race, or a result of ideology, theology, and divine interference, we may not truly know." Reirlin shrugs after saying this.
"They're only "evil" because they're your enemies. How would they think of you?"
Both brothers ponder this for a while. "Interesting theory." Egrien says, and Reirlin nods in agreement. They continue to ponder this for a while.
Indeed, and interesting point you have made. Tehonican's voice rings in Mithris' mind, and you can tell he is speaking to Egrien and Reirlin at the same time as well. But how do you explain the actions of the deities of those races? Those deities, and the faiths they are the foundation of, are the source of evil in the hearts and minds of said races. Not only that, but in many cases, those same deities CREATED the evil races, and made them of like mind. In those cases, how do you explain their actions, especially those who, like the Gnoll and Drow, worship a demon as their deity? Obviously, such an entity as a demon lord or queen will be evil, and, by association, those that worship said entity will become evil, first by simply the exposure to its presence, and eventually that much power and perversion will irreparably twist the very identity of the race to evil.
"Indeed. Please don't jump to any conclusions about Soldaer though. While he does seem to enjoy the thrill of battle, he doesn't actively seek it out. After all, he is a disciple of Eilistraee and Mielikki above all else." Reirlin says. "Ine the years we spent adventuring with him, he never once started a fight, but he always won those that couldn't be avoided."
"I'm sorry, but I don't know who either of those people are."
"Do you have the Drow in your world? And if so, was there a great Drow-elf war, one that started in the Pantheon itself with Lloth and the Seldarine?" Egrien asks.
"Dark elves exist in Borrelia. But I've never heard of the Seldarine."
"The Seldarine is the Elf sub-pantheon, led by Correlon Larethian. Lloth was originally part of the Seldarine, and actually Correlon's Consort in the dawn ages."
*Suffice to say that between Egrien and Reirlin, they piece together they major parts of the basics of Lloth and the War on the Seldarine.*
"Things aren't that way in Borrelia. There were three major elven deities: Arvinal, Rósonon, and Xenestyä. While the majority of elves remained loyal to these gods, a traitorous faction began to experiment with demon summoning, becoming more and more obsessed with the Abyss and the power that it held. Fearful, the rest of their kind drove them underground, where they were corrupted by a demon lord named Lolth, becoming the dark elves."
"Interesting. Well, during the war, most of the Drow joined with Lloth, but a few saw through her lies, and stayed true to the teachings of Correlon Larethian. Those people forsook the name 'Drow', and started calling themselves the 'Twilight Elves', Soldaer's kin. The Drow feel upon the Twilight Elves with a vengeance for 'forsaking' the teachings of Lloth. Eilistraee was Lloth's daughter, but took more after Correlon, her father. She protected the Twilight Elves from the wrath of the Drow, and has been their Matron Goddess ever since."
Egrien continues. "Mielikki is a nature deity. She is one of the most common deities to be worshipped by rangers. One of her primary tenets is to protect civilization from the wilds, and those intent on destroying it."
"Are the wilds really that bad? Kingdoms are full of hatred and corruption. Laws only allow people to be hurt without any consequences."
"In my world, yes. There are many pseudo-intelligent creatures, and even sentient creatures, who absolutely want to kill anything, or anyone, they come across. If you ever journey to our world, you will see what I mean." Reirlin explains. "As far as your claims regarding laws and kingdoms, they're unfortunately true in many worlds. Luckily, it isn't true, at least not for the most part, on my world. In fact, the Twilight Elves of the Fírantín Forest are allies with a strong and just coalition of four kingdoms known as the Winged Alliance. Between these five groups, they protect much of the continent of Hyperia from the goblinoids, orcs, and evil giantkin."
Mithris gives a sad smile. "My people have thought of the orcs and giants as enemies for a very long time. I think I might be the only one of us to ever see them differently."
Egrien returns that smile. "It is unfortunately true that, for the most part at least, those races are usually evil. There are occasionally exceptions, but those are very rare." Both he and Reirlin sigh and take drinks from their mugs.
"No species is evil. Some beings from the Outer Planes might be, but humanoids aren't. Neither are dragons, or giants, or even fey."
"Perhaps. But, at least in our world, and most worlds we have been to, there are indeed 'good' and 'evil' races. Whether that is part of the race, or a result of ideology, theology, and divine interference, we may not truly know." Reirlin shrugs after saying this.
"They're only "evil" because they're your enemies. How would they think of you?"
Both brothers ponder this for a while. "Interesting theory." Egrien says, and Reirlin nods in agreement. They continue to ponder this for a while.
Indeed, and interesting point you have made. Tehonican's voice rings in Mithris' mind, and you can tell he is speaking to Egrien and Reirlin at the same time as well. But how do you explain the actions of the deities of those races? Those deities, and the faiths they are the foundation of, are the source of evil in the hearts and minds of said races. Not only that, but in many cases, those same deities CREATED the evil races, and made them of like mind. In those cases, how do you explain their actions, especially those who, like the Gnoll and Drow, worship a demon as their deity? Obviously, such an entity as a demon lord or queen will be evil, and, by association, those that worship said entity will become evil, first by simply the exposure to its presence, and eventually that much power and perversion will irreparably twist the very identity of the race to evil.
I don't think the dark elves are evil. I'm sure that others are more knowledgable about them than me, and might have a different opinion, but I think that they're misguided. That they've been worshipping Lolth for so long that they don't realize that what they're doing isn't normal. It's just life for them, not crimes or atrocities. And besides that, I don't think every single drow ever believes in her teachings. There's never been a culture in existence that didn't have dissidents.
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"Indeed. Please don't jump to any conclusions about Soldaer though. While he does seem to enjoy the thrill of battle, he doesn't actively seek it out. After all, he is a disciple of Eilistraee and Mielikki above all else." Reirlin says. "Ine the years we spent adventuring with him, he never once started a fight, but he always won those that couldn't be avoided."
"I'm sorry, but I don't know who either of those people are."
"Do you have the Drow in your world? And if so, was there a great Drow-elf war, one that started in the Pantheon itself with Lloth and the Seldarine?" Egrien asks.
"Dark elves exist in Borrelia. But I've never heard of the Seldarine."
"The Seldarine is the Elf sub-pantheon, led by Correlon Larethian. Lloth was originally part of the Seldarine, and actually Correlon's Consort in the dawn ages."
*Suffice to say that between Egrien and Reirlin, they piece together they major parts of the basics of Lloth and the War on the Seldarine.*
"Things aren't that way in Borrelia. There were three major elven deities: Arvinal, Rósonon, and Xenestyä. While the majority of elves remained loyal to these gods, a traitorous faction began to experiment with demon summoning, becoming more and more obsessed with the Abyss and the power that it held. Fearful, the rest of their kind drove them underground, where they were corrupted by a demon lord named Lolth, becoming the dark elves."
"Interesting. Well, during the war, most of the Drow joined with Lloth, but a few saw through her lies, and stayed true to the teachings of Correlon Larethian. Those people forsook the name 'Drow', and started calling themselves the 'Twilight Elves', Soldaer's kin. The Drow feel upon the Twilight Elves with a vengeance for 'forsaking' the teachings of Lloth. Eilistraee was Lloth's daughter, but took more after Correlon, her father. She protected the Twilight Elves from the wrath of the Drow, and has been their Matron Goddess ever since."
Egrien continues. "Mielikki is a nature deity. She is one of the most common deities to be worshipped by rangers. One of her primary tenets is to protect civilization from the wilds, and those intent on destroying it."
"Are the wilds really that bad? Kingdoms are full of hatred and corruption. Laws only allow people to be hurt without any consequences."
"In my world, yes. There are many pseudo-intelligent creatures, and even sentient creatures, who absolutely want to kill anything, or anyone, they come across. If you ever journey to our world, you will see what I mean." Reirlin explains. "As far as your claims regarding laws and kingdoms, they're unfortunately true in many worlds. Luckily, it isn't true, at least not for the most part, on my world. In fact, the Twilight Elves of the Fírantín Forest are allies with a strong and just coalition of four kingdoms known as the Winged Alliance. Between these five groups, they protect much of the continent of Hyperia from the goblinoids, orcs, and evil giantkin."
Mithris gives a sad smile. "My people have thought of the orcs and giants as enemies for a very long time. I think I might be the only one of us to ever see them differently."
Egrien returns that smile. "It is unfortunately true that, for the most part at least, those races are usually evil. There are occasionally exceptions, but those are very rare." Both he and Reirlin sigh and take drinks from their mugs.
"No species is evil. Some beings from the Outer Planes might be, but humanoids aren't. Neither are dragons, or giants, or even fey."
"Perhaps. But, at least in our world, and most worlds we have been to, there are indeed 'good' and 'evil' races. Whether that is part of the race, or a result of ideology, theology, and divine interference, we may not truly know." Reirlin shrugs after saying this.
"They're only "evil" because they're your enemies. How would they think of you?"
Both brothers ponder this for a while. "Interesting theory." Egrien says, and Reirlin nods in agreement. They continue to ponder this for a while.
Indeed, and interesting point you have made. Tehonican's voice rings in Mithris' mind, and you can tell he is speaking to Egrien and Reirlin at the same time as well. But how do you explain the actions of the deities of those races? Those deities, and the faiths they are the foundation of, are the source of evil in the hearts and minds of said races. Not only that, but in many cases, those same deities CREATED the evil races, and made them of like mind. In those cases, how do you explain their actions, especially those who, like the Gnoll and Drow, worship a demon as their deity? Obviously, such an entity as a demon lord or queen will be evil, and, by association, those that worship said entity will become evil, first by simply the exposure to its presence, and eventually that much power and perversion will irreparably twist the very identity of the race to evil.
I don't think the dark elves are evil. I'm sure that others are more knowledgable about them than me, and might have a different opinion, but I think that they're misguided. That they've been worshipping Lolth for so long that they don't realize that what they're doing isn't normal. It's just life for them, not crimes or atrocities. And besides that, I don't think every single drow ever believes in her teachings. There's never been a culture in existence that didn't have dissidents.
Indeed, you are correct with the assessment regarding the Drow. There have been dissidents in some worlds, especially the world known as Toril, where one Drizzt Do'Urden has successfully left his heritage fully behind him and has earned himself quite the reputation as a goodly hero. So maybe the Drow aren't inherently evil, but that does not answer my statement regarding the Gnoll. It is well known that they worship and serve the great demon lord Yeenoghu. I can easily bring up other deific examples, such as Gruumsh and the orcs. The orcs only care to pillage, plunder, and kill in almost every world, and only rarely do they peacefully coexist with the goodly races. Or I could bring up the Demon Queen of the Metallic Dragons, Tiamat, whose sole goal is to return to the Material Plane to wreak havoc and chaos.
And, yes, these are not necessarily true in every world, but they certainly are in most, and even you can agree to that much, I am sure.
"Indeed. Please don't jump to any conclusions about Soldaer though. While he does seem to enjoy the thrill of battle, he doesn't actively seek it out. After all, he is a disciple of Eilistraee and Mielikki above all else." Reirlin says. "Ine the years we spent adventuring with him, he never once started a fight, but he always won those that couldn't be avoided."
"I'm sorry, but I don't know who either of those people are."
"Do you have the Drow in your world? And if so, was there a great Drow-elf war, one that started in the Pantheon itself with Lloth and the Seldarine?" Egrien asks.
"Dark elves exist in Borrelia. But I've never heard of the Seldarine."
"The Seldarine is the Elf sub-pantheon, led by Correlon Larethian. Lloth was originally part of the Seldarine, and actually Correlon's Consort in the dawn ages."
*Suffice to say that between Egrien and Reirlin, they piece together they major parts of the basics of Lloth and the War on the Seldarine.*
"Things aren't that way in Borrelia. There were three major elven deities: Arvinal, Rósonon, and Xenestyä. While the majority of elves remained loyal to these gods, a traitorous faction began to experiment with demon summoning, becoming more and more obsessed with the Abyss and the power that it held. Fearful, the rest of their kind drove them underground, where they were corrupted by a demon lord named Lolth, becoming the dark elves."
"Interesting. Well, during the war, most of the Drow joined with Lloth, but a few saw through her lies, and stayed true to the teachings of Correlon Larethian. Those people forsook the name 'Drow', and started calling themselves the 'Twilight Elves', Soldaer's kin. The Drow feel upon the Twilight Elves with a vengeance for 'forsaking' the teachings of Lloth. Eilistraee was Lloth's daughter, but took more after Correlon, her father. She protected the Twilight Elves from the wrath of the Drow, and has been their Matron Goddess ever since."
Egrien continues. "Mielikki is a nature deity. She is one of the most common deities to be worshipped by rangers. One of her primary tenets is to protect civilization from the wilds, and those intent on destroying it."
"Are the wilds really that bad? Kingdoms are full of hatred and corruption. Laws only allow people to be hurt without any consequences."
"In my world, yes. There are many pseudo-intelligent creatures, and even sentient creatures, who absolutely want to kill anything, or anyone, they come across. If you ever journey to our world, you will see what I mean." Reirlin explains. "As far as your claims regarding laws and kingdoms, they're unfortunately true in many worlds. Luckily, it isn't true, at least not for the most part, on my world. In fact, the Twilight Elves of the Fírantín Forest are allies with a strong and just coalition of four kingdoms known as the Winged Alliance. Between these five groups, they protect much of the continent of Hyperia from the goblinoids, orcs, and evil giantkin."
Mithris gives a sad smile. "My people have thought of the orcs and giants as enemies for a very long time. I think I might be the only one of us to ever see them differently."
Egrien returns that smile. "It is unfortunately true that, for the most part at least, those races are usually evil. There are occasionally exceptions, but those are very rare." Both he and Reirlin sigh and take drinks from their mugs.
"No species is evil. Some beings from the Outer Planes might be, but humanoids aren't. Neither are dragons, or giants, or even fey."
"Perhaps. But, at least in our world, and most worlds we have been to, there are indeed 'good' and 'evil' races. Whether that is part of the race, or a result of ideology, theology, and divine interference, we may not truly know." Reirlin shrugs after saying this.
"They're only "evil" because they're your enemies. How would they think of you?"
Both brothers ponder this for a while. "Interesting theory." Egrien says, and Reirlin nods in agreement. They continue to ponder this for a while.
Indeed, and interesting point you have made. Tehonican's voice rings in Mithris' mind, and you can tell he is speaking to Egrien and Reirlin at the same time as well. But how do you explain the actions of the deities of those races? Those deities, and the faiths they are the foundation of, are the source of evil in the hearts and minds of said races. Not only that, but in many cases, those same deities CREATED the evil races, and made them of like mind. In those cases, how do you explain their actions, especially those who, like the Gnoll and Drow, worship a demon as their deity? Obviously, such an entity as a demon lord or queen will be evil, and, by association, those that worship said entity will become evil, first by simply the exposure to its presence, and eventually that much power and perversion will irreparably twist the very identity of the race to evil.
I don't think the dark elves are evil. I'm sure that others are more knowledgable about them than me, and might have a different opinion, but I think that they're misguided. That they've been worshipping Lolth for so long that they don't realize that what they're doing isn't normal. It's just life for them, not crimes or atrocities. And besides that, I don't think every single drow ever believes in her teachings. There's never been a culture in existence that didn't have dissidents.
Indeed, you are correct with the assessment regarding the Drow. There have been dissidents in some worlds, especially the world known as Toril, where one Drizzt Do'Urden has successfully left his heritage fully behind him and has earned himself quite the reputation as a goodly hero. So maybe the Drow aren't inherently evil, but that does not answer my statement regarding the Gnoll. It is well known that they worship and serve the great demon lord Yeenoghu. I can easily bring up other deific examples, such as Gruumsh and the orcs. The orcs only care to pillage, plunder, and kill in almost every world, and only rarely do they peacefully coexist with the goodly races. Or I could bring up the Demon Queen of the Metallic Dragons, Tiamat, whose sole goal is to return to the Material Plane to wreak havoc and chaos.
And, yes, these are not necessarily true in every world, but they certainly are in most, and even you can agree to that much, I am sure.
*You meant chromatic, right?*
I think you can ask some of my friends if you think that gnolls are evil. They're gotten along pretty well with them. And I've never heard of Gruumsh before, so I can't really say very much about that. But Tiamat isn't even a species. She's just one dragon who sided with the demons.
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"Indeed. Please don't jump to any conclusions about Soldaer though. While he does seem to enjoy the thrill of battle, he doesn't actively seek it out. After all, he is a disciple of Eilistraee and Mielikki above all else." Reirlin says. "Ine the years we spent adventuring with him, he never once started a fight, but he always won those that couldn't be avoided."
"I'm sorry, but I don't know who either of those people are."
"Do you have the Drow in your world? And if so, was there a great Drow-elf war, one that started in the Pantheon itself with Lloth and the Seldarine?" Egrien asks.
"Dark elves exist in Borrelia. But I've never heard of the Seldarine."
"The Seldarine is the Elf sub-pantheon, led by Correlon Larethian. Lloth was originally part of the Seldarine, and actually Correlon's Consort in the dawn ages."
*Suffice to say that between Egrien and Reirlin, they piece together they major parts of the basics of Lloth and the War on the Seldarine.*
"Things aren't that way in Borrelia. There were three major elven deities: Arvinal, Rósonon, and Xenestyä. While the majority of elves remained loyal to these gods, a traitorous faction began to experiment with demon summoning, becoming more and more obsessed with the Abyss and the power that it held. Fearful, the rest of their kind drove them underground, where they were corrupted by a demon lord named Lolth, becoming the dark elves."
"Interesting. Well, during the war, most of the Drow joined with Lloth, but a few saw through her lies, and stayed true to the teachings of Correlon Larethian. Those people forsook the name 'Drow', and started calling themselves the 'Twilight Elves', Soldaer's kin. The Drow feel upon the Twilight Elves with a vengeance for 'forsaking' the teachings of Lloth. Eilistraee was Lloth's daughter, but took more after Correlon, her father. She protected the Twilight Elves from the wrath of the Drow, and has been their Matron Goddess ever since."
Egrien continues. "Mielikki is a nature deity. She is one of the most common deities to be worshipped by rangers. One of her primary tenets is to protect civilization from the wilds, and those intent on destroying it."
"Are the wilds really that bad? Kingdoms are full of hatred and corruption. Laws only allow people to be hurt without any consequences."
"In my world, yes. There are many pseudo-intelligent creatures, and even sentient creatures, who absolutely want to kill anything, or anyone, they come across. If you ever journey to our world, you will see what I mean." Reirlin explains. "As far as your claims regarding laws and kingdoms, they're unfortunately true in many worlds. Luckily, it isn't true, at least not for the most part, on my world. In fact, the Twilight Elves of the Fírantín Forest are allies with a strong and just coalition of four kingdoms known as the Winged Alliance. Between these five groups, they protect much of the continent of Hyperia from the goblinoids, orcs, and evil giantkin."
Mithris gives a sad smile. "My people have thought of the orcs and giants as enemies for a very long time. I think I might be the only one of us to ever see them differently."
Egrien returns that smile. "It is unfortunately true that, for the most part at least, those races are usually evil. There are occasionally exceptions, but those are very rare." Both he and Reirlin sigh and take drinks from their mugs.
"No species is evil. Some beings from the Outer Planes might be, but humanoids aren't. Neither are dragons, or giants, or even fey."
"Perhaps. But, at least in our world, and most worlds we have been to, there are indeed 'good' and 'evil' races. Whether that is part of the race, or a result of ideology, theology, and divine interference, we may not truly know." Reirlin shrugs after saying this.
"They're only "evil" because they're your enemies. How would they think of you?"
Both brothers ponder this for a while. "Interesting theory." Egrien says, and Reirlin nods in agreement. They continue to ponder this for a while.
Indeed, and interesting point you have made. Tehonican's voice rings in Mithris' mind, and you can tell he is speaking to Egrien and Reirlin at the same time as well. But how do you explain the actions of the deities of those races? Those deities, and the faiths they are the foundation of, are the source of evil in the hearts and minds of said races. Not only that, but in many cases, those same deities CREATED the evil races, and made them of like mind. In those cases, how do you explain their actions, especially those who, like the Gnoll and Drow, worship a demon as their deity? Obviously, such an entity as a demon lord or queen will be evil, and, by association, those that worship said entity will become evil, first by simply the exposure to its presence, and eventually that much power and perversion will irreparably twist the very identity of the race to evil.
I don't think the dark elves are evil. I'm sure that others are more knowledgable about them than me, and might have a different opinion, but I think that they're misguided. That they've been worshipping Lolth for so long that they don't realize that what they're doing isn't normal. It's just life for them, not crimes or atrocities. And besides that, I don't think every single drow ever believes in her teachings. There's never been a culture in existence that didn't have dissidents.
Indeed, you are correct with the assessment regarding the Drow. There have been dissidents in some worlds, especially the world known as Toril, where one Drizzt Do'Urden has successfully left his heritage fully behind him and has earned himself quite the reputation as a goodly hero. So maybe the Drow aren't inherently evil, but that does not answer my statement regarding the Gnoll. It is well known that they worship and serve the great demon lord Yeenoghu. I can easily bring up other deific examples, such as Gruumsh and the orcs. The orcs only care to pillage, plunder, and kill in almost every world, and only rarely do they peacefully coexist with the goodly races. Or I could bring up the Demon Queen of the Metallic Dragons, Tiamat, whose sole goal is to return to the Material Plane to wreak havoc and chaos.
And, yes, these are not necessarily true in every world, but they certainly are in most, and even you can agree to that much, I am sure.
*You meant chromatic, right?*
I think you can ask some of my friends if you think that gnolls are evil. They're gotten along pretty well with them. And I've never heard of Gruumsh before, so I can't really say very much about that. But Tiamat isn't even a species. She's just one dragon who sided with the demons.
*Yep, lol. After midnight, and functioning on about 5 hours of sleep right now, so there's gonna be some mistakes, even in my lore here, so bear with me, lol*
I Wasn't claiming either Gruumsh or Tiamat as a species, but Tiamat is the Queen of the Chromatics, and they follow her tenets, almost invariably. I, and these good brothers, spent quite some time on Toril, and became well-acquainted with their cosmology, deities, and history. Tiamat was one of three Draconic Deities, and she killed the third one, Sardior, the god and creator of the Gem Dragons. When she became banished to the Nine Hells, she called to her children, the Chromatics, to hoard as many riches as they could in order to bring her back to the Material Plane. When she was on the Material Plane, she and the rest of the Chromatics did nothing more than cause chaos and destruction for the sheer joy of it.
As for Gruumsh, once we decide to leave this place, we can take you to Toril, and you can find out more about him, and the other deities like him, there. I'm not fully qualified to speak as to him.
Egrien and Reirlin are both nodding at this, honestly seeming excited to go on another adventure again.
"Indeed. Please don't jump to any conclusions about Soldaer though. While he does seem to enjoy the thrill of battle, he doesn't actively seek it out. After all, he is a disciple of Eilistraee and Mielikki above all else." Reirlin says. "Ine the years we spent adventuring with him, he never once started a fight, but he always won those that couldn't be avoided."
"I'm sorry, but I don't know who either of those people are."
"Do you have the Drow in your world? And if so, was there a great Drow-elf war, one that started in the Pantheon itself with Lloth and the Seldarine?" Egrien asks.
"Dark elves exist in Borrelia. But I've never heard of the Seldarine."
"The Seldarine is the Elf sub-pantheon, led by Correlon Larethian. Lloth was originally part of the Seldarine, and actually Correlon's Consort in the dawn ages."
*Suffice to say that between Egrien and Reirlin, they piece together they major parts of the basics of Lloth and the War on the Seldarine.*
"Things aren't that way in Borrelia. There were three major elven deities: Arvinal, Rósonon, and Xenestyä. While the majority of elves remained loyal to these gods, a traitorous faction began to experiment with demon summoning, becoming more and more obsessed with the Abyss and the power that it held. Fearful, the rest of their kind drove them underground, where they were corrupted by a demon lord named Lolth, becoming the dark elves."
"Interesting. Well, during the war, most of the Drow joined with Lloth, but a few saw through her lies, and stayed true to the teachings of Correlon Larethian. Those people forsook the name 'Drow', and started calling themselves the 'Twilight Elves', Soldaer's kin. The Drow feel upon the Twilight Elves with a vengeance for 'forsaking' the teachings of Lloth. Eilistraee was Lloth's daughter, but took more after Correlon, her father. She protected the Twilight Elves from the wrath of the Drow, and has been their Matron Goddess ever since."
Egrien continues. "Mielikki is a nature deity. She is one of the most common deities to be worshipped by rangers. One of her primary tenets is to protect civilization from the wilds, and those intent on destroying it."
"Are the wilds really that bad? Kingdoms are full of hatred and corruption. Laws only allow people to be hurt without any consequences."
"In my world, yes. There are many pseudo-intelligent creatures, and even sentient creatures, who absolutely want to kill anything, or anyone, they come across. If you ever journey to our world, you will see what I mean." Reirlin explains. "As far as your claims regarding laws and kingdoms, they're unfortunately true in many worlds. Luckily, it isn't true, at least not for the most part, on my world. In fact, the Twilight Elves of the Fírantín Forest are allies with a strong and just coalition of four kingdoms known as the Winged Alliance. Between these five groups, they protect much of the continent of Hyperia from the goblinoids, orcs, and evil giantkin."
Mithris gives a sad smile. "My people have thought of the orcs and giants as enemies for a very long time. I think I might be the only one of us to ever see them differently."
Egrien returns that smile. "It is unfortunately true that, for the most part at least, those races are usually evil. There are occasionally exceptions, but those are very rare." Both he and Reirlin sigh and take drinks from their mugs.
"No species is evil. Some beings from the Outer Planes might be, but humanoids aren't. Neither are dragons, or giants, or even fey."
"Perhaps. But, at least in our world, and most worlds we have been to, there are indeed 'good' and 'evil' races. Whether that is part of the race, or a result of ideology, theology, and divine interference, we may not truly know." Reirlin shrugs after saying this.
"They're only "evil" because they're your enemies. How would they think of you?"
Both brothers ponder this for a while. "Interesting theory." Egrien says, and Reirlin nods in agreement. They continue to ponder this for a while.
Indeed, and interesting point you have made. Tehonican's voice rings in Mithris' mind, and you can tell he is speaking to Egrien and Reirlin at the same time as well. But how do you explain the actions of the deities of those races? Those deities, and the faiths they are the foundation of, are the source of evil in the hearts and minds of said races. Not only that, but in many cases, those same deities CREATED the evil races, and made them of like mind. In those cases, how do you explain their actions, especially those who, like the Gnoll and Drow, worship a demon as their deity? Obviously, such an entity as a demon lord or queen will be evil, and, by association, those that worship said entity will become evil, first by simply the exposure to its presence, and eventually that much power and perversion will irreparably twist the very identity of the race to evil.
I don't think the dark elves are evil. I'm sure that others are more knowledgable about them than me, and might have a different opinion, but I think that they're misguided. That they've been worshipping Lolth for so long that they don't realize that what they're doing isn't normal. It's just life for them, not crimes or atrocities. And besides that, I don't think every single drow ever believes in her teachings. There's never been a culture in existence that didn't have dissidents.
Indeed, you are correct with the assessment regarding the Drow. There have been dissidents in some worlds, especially the world known as Toril, where one Drizzt Do'Urden has successfully left his heritage fully behind him and has earned himself quite the reputation as a goodly hero. So maybe the Drow aren't inherently evil, but that does not answer my statement regarding the Gnoll. It is well known that they worship and serve the great demon lord Yeenoghu. I can easily bring up other deific examples, such as Gruumsh and the orcs. The orcs only care to pillage, plunder, and kill in almost every world, and only rarely do they peacefully coexist with the goodly races. Or I could bring up the Demon Queen of the Metallic Dragons, Tiamat, whose sole goal is to return to the Material Plane to wreak havoc and chaos.
And, yes, these are not necessarily true in every world, but they certainly are in most, and even you can agree to that much, I am sure.
*You meant chromatic, right?*
I think you can ask some of my friends if you think that gnolls are evil. They're gotten along pretty well with them. And I've never heard of Gruumsh before, so I can't really say very much about that. But Tiamat isn't even a species. She's just one dragon who sided with the demons.
*Yep, lol. After midnight, and functioning on about 5 hours of sleep right now, so there's gonna be some mistakes, even in my lore here, so bear with me, lol*
I Wasn't claiming either Gruumsh or Tiamat as a species, but Tiamat is the Queen of the Chromatics, and they follow her tenets, almost invariably. I, and these good brothers, spent quite some time on Toril, and became well-acquainted with their cosmology, deities, and history. Tiamat was one of three Draconic Deities, and she killed the third one, Sardior, the god and creator of the Gem Dragons. When she became banished to the Nine Hells, she called to her children, the Chromatics, to hoard as many riches as they could in order to bring her back to the Material Plane. When she was on the Material Plane, she and the rest of the Chromatics did nothing more than cause chaos and destruction for the sheer joy of it.
As for Gruumsh, once we decide to leave this place, we can take you to Toril, and you can find out more about him, and the other deities like him, there. I'm not fully qualified to speak as to him.
Egrien and Reirlin are both nodding at this, honestly seeming excited to go on another adventure again.
*Makes sense.*
Saevaran rules over all dragons, whether metallic or chromatic. Tiamat might be an elder dragon, but she is no goddess. Any dragons who follow her are worthy of death. But I would enjoy going to this world of yours.
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*With that, I'm gonna need to sign off for the night. got some classes in the morning, and didn't get too much sleep last night, so...*
*Have a Neutral Good Night Y'all!*
*Alright, BYE!!!*
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"Uhhhh....." Avery fiddles with the lock for a few moments, "Ok, sure."
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"Thanks sir," Avery grins, opening the chest
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Its filled with an assortmant of items. precious stones, metals, and other objects made of those stones and metals. Avery claps, "Loot!"
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"Once you're done with obsessing over that, it's time for you to complete your end of the deal."
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Avery nods, "Who must i find?"
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*Would you prefer Discord or a PM?*
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*PM, i don't have discord*
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Two things are infinite: The universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not so sure about the universe.
Scifi horror is quite the trip :) Comics and a story
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*Alright.*
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Both brothers ponder this for a while. "Interesting theory." Egrien says, and Reirlin nods in agreement. They continue to ponder this for a while.
Indeed, and interesting point you have made. Tehonican's voice rings in Mithris' mind, and you can tell he is speaking to Egrien and Reirlin at the same time as well. But how do you explain the actions of the deities of those races? Those deities, and the faiths they are the foundation of, are the source of evil in the hearts and minds of said races. Not only that, but in many cases, those same deities CREATED the evil races, and made them of like mind. In those cases, how do you explain their actions, especially those who, like the Gnoll and Drow, worship a demon as their deity? Obviously, such an entity as a demon lord or queen will be evil, and, by association, those that worship said entity will become evil, first by simply the exposure to its presence, and eventually that much power and perversion will irreparably twist the very identity of the race to evil.
I don't think the dark elves are evil. I'm sure that others are more knowledgable about them than me, and might have a different opinion, but I think that they're misguided. That they've been worshipping Lolth for so long that they don't realize that what they're doing isn't normal. It's just life for them, not crimes or atrocities. And besides that, I don't think every single drow ever believes in her teachings. There's never been a culture in existence that didn't have dissidents.
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Indeed, you are correct with the assessment regarding the Drow. There have been dissidents in some worlds, especially the world known as Toril, where one Drizzt Do'Urden has successfully left his heritage fully behind him and has earned himself quite the reputation as a goodly hero. So maybe the Drow aren't inherently evil, but that does not answer my statement regarding the Gnoll. It is well known that they worship and serve the great demon lord Yeenoghu. I can easily bring up other deific examples, such as Gruumsh and the orcs. The orcs only care to pillage, plunder, and kill in almost every world, and only rarely do they peacefully coexist with the goodly races. Or I could bring up the Demon Queen of the Metallic Dragons, Tiamat, whose sole goal is to return to the Material Plane to wreak havoc and chaos.
And, yes, these are not necessarily true in every world, but they certainly are in most, and even you can agree to that much, I am sure.
*You meant chromatic, right?*
I think you can ask some of my friends if you think that gnolls are evil. They're gotten along pretty well with them. And I've never heard of Gruumsh before, so I can't really say very much about that. But Tiamat isn't even a species. She's just one dragon who sided with the demons.
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If there was no light, people wouldn't fear the dark.
*Yep, lol. After midnight, and functioning on about 5 hours of sleep right now, so there's gonna be some mistakes, even in my lore here, so bear with me, lol*
I Wasn't claiming either Gruumsh or Tiamat as a species, but Tiamat is the Queen of the Chromatics, and they follow her tenets, almost invariably. I, and these good brothers, spent quite some time on Toril, and became well-acquainted with their cosmology, deities, and history. Tiamat was one of three Draconic Deities, and she killed the third one, Sardior, the god and creator of the Gem Dragons. When she became banished to the Nine Hells, she called to her children, the Chromatics, to hoard as many riches as they could in order to bring her back to the Material Plane. When she was on the Material Plane, she and the rest of the Chromatics did nothing more than cause chaos and destruction for the sheer joy of it.
As for Gruumsh, once we decide to leave this place, we can take you to Toril, and you can find out more about him, and the other deities like him, there. I'm not fully qualified to speak as to him.
Egrien and Reirlin are both nodding at this, honestly seeming excited to go on another adventure again.
*With that, I'm gonna need to sign off for the night. got some classes in the morning, and didn't get too much sleep last night, so...*
*Have a Neutral Good Night Y'all!*
*Makes sense.*
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*Alright, BYE!!!*
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*Not much to do i guess*
I play a miriad of characters at the lord's rest inn
Two things are infinite: The universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not so sure about the universe.
Scifi horror is quite the trip :) Comics and a story
#FreeDND