So, I will be honest: I hated THAC0.

So did my group. We never actually used it, lol. What we used was still the "this is your AC, roll better than to hit it.". We didn't go "down", we went up. Much closer to 5e, but not quite the 1e stuff either.

We called it THAC0, though, lol.

Let's see, what else. Honestly, not really a lot. We played 2e very much like we played 1e, with a few more bells and whistles, really. We used the OA Monk and Shukenja for years over the nromal ones.

We spit over 3e. I was not happy with it, so never really stepped out of the 1e/2e stuff, but I read the books.

I disliked the chapbook stuff of late 2e that led into 3e and caused 3.5 to happen (from a player viewpoint).

4e I just said no, this isn't D&D to me.

5e took a while for me to warm up to.  I think my biggest issue is that we have been playing by our own rules for so long that sometimes I forget they aren't official rules. What we are all playing in different games now is so much a mesh of different versions that it can be hard to keep them straight at times.

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So, I will be honest: I hated THAC0.

So did my group. We never actually used it, lol. What we used was still the "this is your AC, roll better than to hit it.". We didn't go "down", we went up. Much closer to 5e, but not quite the 1e stuff either.

We called it THAC0, though, lol.

Let's see, what else. Honestly, not really a lot. We played 2e very much like we played 1e, with a few more bells and whistles, really. We used the OA Monk and Shukenja for years over the nromal ones.

We spit over 3e. I was not happy with it, so never really stepped out of the 1e/2e stuff, but I read the books.

I disliked the chapbook stuff of late 2e that led into 3e and caused 3.5 to happen (from a player viewpoint).

4e I just said no, this isn't D&D to me.

5e took a while for me to warm up to.  I think my biggest issue is that we have been playing by our own rules for so long that sometimes I forget they aren't official rules. What we are all playing in different games now is so much a mesh of different versions that it can be hard to keep them straight at times.

 

 

 I like how this is presented, so here’s my unasked for opinions on the editions.

I love THAC0. I don’t want to play with it all the time, modern AC is better, but I have played with it and I really enjoy it. Nothing can convince me otherwise.

I haven’t had much experience with 1 and 2e, so I won’t put any judgements here. I do play some OSR games though, and I enjoy many elements of them that are apparently taken from those editions.

3e is great to me. I love the crunchiness, and while there are definitely some clarifications I’d like and reworks that would be nice, it is a very fun system. I buy any 3e books I can find. I have no experience with 3.5, so I won’t add judgements here.

I’m sorry, but I think 4e is cool. I own some books and I’ve played, and I enjoy the system. It’s very different, and I will go ahead and admit it: this isn’t D&D. This is a fantasy superhero game. However, it’s still different and interesting in moderation.

I love 5e pre Tasha’s. Now, don’t get me wrong, books released Tasha’s and on have been alright, but the best material came before then (except two of my all time favorite books: Bigby’s and Keys from the Golden Vault. All they lack are character options). The game is not quite the challenge I want anymore though, so I use a fair amount of homebrew and unofficial material, and I must say, 5e homebrew has a lot of great stuff in it.

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So, I will be honest: I hated THAC0.
So did my group. We never actually used it, lol. What we used was still the "this is your AC, roll better than to hit it.". We didn't go "down", we went up. Much closer to 5e, but not quite the 1e stuff either. We called it THAC0, though, lol.
Let's see, what else. Honestly, not really a lot. We played 2e very much like we played 1e, with a few more bells and whistles, really. We used the OA Monk and Shukenja for years over the nromal ones.
We spit over 3e. I was not happy with it, so never really stepped out of the 1e/2e stuff, but I read the books.
I disliked the chapbook stuff of late 2e that led into 3e and caused 3.5 to happen (from a player viewpoint).
4e I just said no, this isn't D&D to me.
5e took a while for me to warm up to.  I think my biggest issue is that we have been playing by our own rules for so long that sometimes I forget they aren't official rules. What we are all playing in different games now is so much a mesh of different versions that it can be hard to keep them straight at times.

 
Back in the day, I thought THAC0 was the stuff. But in hindsight - constantly needing to refer to the THAC0 table because everyone's "to hit" was different - Fighters needed a 10 to hit a specific creature, but Wizards might need a 13, but Thieves need a 12, and Druids need a 16....

In hindsight, it's utter chaos to even think how I enjoyed D&D back then, for as much as I hate math.

I do have to ask what you disliked about 3rd edition that you spat on it?

I agree on 4th Edition - to me it was D&D trying to capture the MMO crowd. Because it literally felt like "We took World of Warcraft and made it into a D&D game." Which, I understand why, considering World of Warcraft was dominating everything - so why play D&D around a table when you can all log in, make characters, and go on quests and raids together? So I get why they sort of made this MMO on Paper feel. But it was horrible (in my opinion - the worse edition of D&D). I played in it for about a year - and it's the sole version of D&D that I own none of the books to because I disliked it.

5th Edition took me no time - it was the perfect evolution of 3rd edition.

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 I like how this is presented, so here’s my unasked for opinions on the editions.
I love THAC0. I don’t want to play with it all the time, modern AC is better, but I have played with it and I really enjoy it. Nothing can convince me otherwise.
I haven’t had much experience with 1 and 2e, so I won’t put any judgements here. I do play some OSR games though, and I enjoy many elements of them that are apparently taken from those editions.
3e is great to me. I love the crunchiness, and while there are definitely some clarifications I’d like and reworks that would be nice, it is a very fun system. I buy any 3e books I can find. I have no experience with 3.5, so I won’t add judgements here.
I’m sorry, but I think 4e is cool. I own some books and I’ve played, and I enjoy the system. It’s very different, and I will go ahead and admit it: this isn’t D&D. This is a fantasy superhero game. However, it’s still different and interesting in moderation.
I love 5e pre Tasha’s. Now, don’t get me wrong, books released Tasha’s and on have been alright, but the best material came before then (except two of my all time favorite books: Bigby’s and Keys from the Golden Vault. All they lack are character options). The game is not quite the challenge I want anymore though, so I use a fair amount of homebrew and unofficial material, and I must say, 5e homebrew has a lot of great stuff in it.

 
How do you love THAC0 so much but barely played 1e and 2e? THAC0 went away after 2e.

We agree on 5e - I think it really was perfect - but Tasha's - and again I get why - opened so many doors to customize. A lot of people (thankfully not at my table, but on various forums where people are asking about builds) - Tasha's seemed to introduce a heavy hand to "power gaming" folks - you can now pick a specific race and class combo without feeling "punished" (I want to play a dwarf wizard, but they don't get a bonus to Intelligence... but I will take this race that does! Or just apply the two points to Intelligence!") - this is cool for a player perspective (which, really the game should gear for, so like many things, I understand why they did it) - but it also kind of erases the idea of any specific race. Like everyone just plays a blank slate race and slap trait bonuses (and proficiencies) where ever you want. Again, highly beneficial for the player - which is cool. I just feel like it mutes the selection of picking specific races. (But again, I get it... it also removes stereotypes... not every dwarf is strong... some study spell books and focus on intelligence... I get it, I really, really do, but just wasn't a fan of it).

When you say that 5e isn't the challenge you want anymore? What do you mean? As a DM?

Because, you combine the right set of monsters, for example - at any given level - you can create a massive challenge for a party.

I do have to ask what you disliked about 3rd edition that you spat on it?

3e wasn't D&D at the time.

It had started with the release of all the chapbooks in the late stage 2e, which seriously annoyed the broke me and slightly less broke group as a whole at that time, and I found that it became gross an unwieldy and most importantly it did the same thing that remains my greatest gripe about 5e: the classes lost their distinctiveness.

The structural Archetypes for the game changed so greatly that they stopped being visible as "Fighter, Wizard, Cleric, Rogue" ad became a melange, a mess, a way to step around one of the architectural core elements that were key to the way D&D worked.

1e/2e are a different game from 3e and later. Entirely. In feel, in way of play, in depth of system -- they are completely separate games linked by a certain degree of commonality comprised o the publisher, the spells, the monsters, and the conceptual architecture of the game's central resolution mechanics.

While a lot of the rules from 1e/2e would be useful in 5e, there are even more that cannot be brought forward -- but the benefit of it all is that D&D as a whole has escaped the Ship of Theseus trap of "what is D&D".

3e -- and even more importantly 3.5 e is why they needed to do 5e the way they did in the basis of simplicity. Although they did throw out the baby with the bathwater in some respects to some folks.

Back then, a lot of folks felt as if it was a betrayal. It became "too much", and between the stage of our lives, the fiscal demands it required, the sense of betrayal, and the other, larger changes going on in ttrpg as an industry, it was a perfect storm for a lot of folks to just opt out.

So we did.

One of the folks madeit a point to collect every version of the old chapbooks -- and then 3e came out and they dropped out of the whole thing and still don't join us, despite 3e really just being a continuation and minor adaptation of a lot of the old chapbook stuff.

Another has freaking everything. I had to store all their stuff for a year because they literally went broke and homeless as a result.

So, it was the times, in summation. We mostly just kept using our hybrid of 1e/2e as a whole until a bit after 5e came out -- and all of us drifted away from the industry stuff (stopped following news, etc) except me, and for many years I just did stuff with other companies and groups creating game mechanics while running my MSHAS and MW/BT games.

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How do you love THAC0 so much but barely played 1e and 2e? THAC0 went away after 2e.

When you say that 5e isn't the challenge you want anymore? What do you mean? As a DM?

I discovered THAC0 while doing some research, because as it turned out, I accidentally made THAC0 (almost) while designing a game system. Then, after that I decided to figure out how this alien system worked, and I used some simplified 1e rule guides to figure out how to use it. I then translated it over into an OSR system I was playing with some friends (I couldn’t tell you which one 😂 this is a while ago. It might have been DCC RPG) and we liked it, so we went looking for a 5e rules hack. After some good searching I think we found one, but it needed some customization and fixing, which I did. I’ll link the doc I wrote it up on if I can find it (Note: I did not… I think it was on my computer when it decided to sacrifice itself for the greater good: forcing me to buy a new one. And no, I didn’t have a backup because I thought that that sort of thing couldn’t happen to me..). It was fun though!

As for 5e being easy, I just mean that characters have an ability for everything and they usually can fix any problem by preparing a new spell next rest or seeking out a safe space to rest and replenishing some very limited abilities. I really like systems where resource management is more important and recovery is rarer, such as DCC RPG or Shadowdark. I’ve found some rules for travel that make it tougher and more about resource management (I love them! Buy Uncharted Journeys from Cubicle 7!) and I’ve changed the rules a bit to encourage creative problem solving using things that aren’t class features or spells. I’m really trying to encourage using items from shops, your own intellect, and the environment to solve problems, and I’ve noticed a lot more player engagement and excitement at the table, because monsters are scary when they use their environment, forcing you to figure it out, traps are dangerous when players know they won’t get a rest anytime soon, and puzzles are tense when you have to choose between cheesing with a knock spell and saving your last cure wounds for your low HP fighter.

Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

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Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

 At high velocity and with a slight minty aftertaste.

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Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

 Broiled in a cauldron with liver and stardust — makes for the best potions of healing.

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Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

 I like omelets, but I also like to mix in eggs with ramen broth from cup noodles and then microwave them to get a sort of egg jelly/foam with ramen flavor.

Greek or Italian omelet. Also eggs Benedict with Hollandaise sauce.

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Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

 
That depends...

Generally speaking, I like them over easy. However, my favorite way is (3 eggs)

separate the yolks from the whites of two eggs.

add some heavy cream, finely grated cheese, fresh green onions and one whole egg to the whites and mix thoroughly. 

Lay out whites in an omelette pan. Add a mix of black and white pepper.

Once the base has firmed, add a bit more cheese and the two yolks in the center.

Fold the omelette over the whole yolks. Flip until the whites mixture is cooked and you have the yolks warmed.

Serve on a plate with a run of mayo and onion powder sauce, and salt to taste.

I am, sadly, only allowed 1 of those a week.

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Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

 Hatched and raised from chicks up into glorious hens that produce more eggs. 

Eggs are scrumptious anyway they are made. A fried egg on toast is good and simple. 

Can't stand eggs. Only if they're concealed pretty well by a lot of other ingredients. Like in a cake.

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Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

 
That depends...

Generally speaking, I like them over easy. However, my favorite way is (3 eggs)

separate the yolks from the whites of two eggs.

add some heavy cream, finely grated cheese, fresh green onions and one whole egg to the whites and mix thoroughly. 

Lay out whites in an omelette pan. Add a mix of black and white pepper.

Once the base has firmed, add a bit more cheese and the two yolks in the center.

Fold the omelette over the whole yolks. Flip until the whites mixture is cooked and you have the yolks warmed.

Serve on a plate with a run of mayo and onion powder sauce, and salt to taste.

I am, sadly, only allowed 1 of those a week.

 

 Darn now I want an omelet. I love omelets and eggs in general

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Can't stand eggs. Only if they're concealed pretty well by a lot of other ingredients. Like in a cake.

 
That's full cover and concealment...

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Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

Every time I hear about eggs (which I like)... I always think of this magnificent panel, featuring Longshot along side the X-Men.

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Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

 Dead

Preferably for a few days (;

So, an "eggs" story.

My middle daughter decided one year she was going to go vegan. Really. I did most of the cooking, so I said "ok" and made  a bunch of special vegan things for a about a year and a half.

One day, she comes home after school and fixes herself a tomato, lettuce, and onion sandwich. I'm sitting there working, and I glance pp to see her slatherin mayo on the bread.

"i thought you were being vegan>" I mutter quietly.

"I am."

"Then why didn' t you use the Miracle Whip?"

"I don't like miracle whip. It doesn't taste as good as mayo."

At that moment I looked up from my work and gave her my arched eyebrow. "What is Mayo made out of?"

She did not know. I had failed as a cooking parent to teach her how to make her own mayonnaise. "Well, then, get out the blender, the safflower oil, a lemon, and apple cider vinegar. We will make the best mayo you have ever had."

She dutifully did it. I dashed a pinch of paprika, tossed a teaspoon of vinegar, a teaspoon of lemon juice, poured out my cup of oil, then reached in and grabbed three eggs, crackign them while she stared open mouthed at me. Turning the blender on, I began drizzling the oil into the blender slowly, watching carefully, and reached a great consistency after the cuo was fully in there.

I grabbed a spoon, told her to taste, suffering through the death stare of ultimate destruction and immolation. She did.

"I haven't been very vegan, have I?" she says.

"You've been a marvelous vegetarian, though." I respond, knowing I was still doomed for at least the next six months.

I was indeed doomed, but she stopped being vegan or vegetarian, and I started having to make Mayo every week instead of buying it.

It ranks up there as one of my fave memories. Way better than the "this is how you make ketchup" episode...

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So, an "eggs" story.

 

I was indeed doomed, but she stopped being vegan or vegetarian, and I started having to make Mayo every week instead of buying it.

 

In the famous words of Torty the Tortle Bard, "What an egg-cellent story, m'lday."

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Question of the day: How do you like your eggs?

 

Every time I hear about eggs (which I like)... I always think of this magnificent panel, featuring Longshot along side the X-Men.

 

 
I wish I could like this twice just for the oldish school X-Men drop.