I hope that works to show... the Sacred Flame and Light DCs are 17, and other spells are at DC 19? Does the Rod of the Pact Keeper only raise Spell DC? not Cantrips?
Thanks for the link. That might be it, but I notice that the three cantrips affected are not listed on the sheet as Warlock spells: on instance of the light spell is because of your race. The other instance of light and sacred flame are "bonus cantrips" you get as a Celestial warlock. They are not typically warlock spells, and the Rod of the Pact Keeper is specific to warlock spells. That said, I would rule that the bonus cantrips should be considered warlock spells for purposes of using theRod of the Pact Keeper. The instance of light related to your Aasimar race, however, should not be affected. (But that's kind of moot since you have light from your warlock patron, too). So I'm not sure if it's a bug, if it's a feature they haven't been able to model correctly yet, or if it is actually RAW. (There's a whole philosophical debate about precisely the variously worded references to class spell lists)
This definitely looks to be a bug (the spells granted by the Celestial Patron should count as Warlock spells). I've passed this issue along to the dev team.
Warlock Boon: Pact of the Tome spells display incorrect DC, based on a different ability score than Charisma.
Pact of the Tome
Your patron gives you a grimoire called a Book of Shadows. When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list). While the book is on your person, you can cast those cantrips at will. They don’t count against your number of cantrips known. If they don’t appear on the warlock spell list, they are nonetheless warlock spells for you.
So far as I can see, it's the Rod of the Pact Keeper (+3 to saves for Warlock spells) that is not being accounted for on the Pact Boon Spells (un-equipping it gets every leveled off to DC 17).
So far as I can see, it's the Rod of the Pact Keeper (+3 to saves for Warlock spells) that is not being accounted for on the Pact Boon Spells (un-equipping it gets every leveled off to DC 17).
That has been reported many times over the past 3 years. They know it’s a thing, they just couldn’t fix it before. Hopefully with the system overhaul they are doing that will change, but who knows how long that could take. 🤷♂️
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Is there any reason why a 9th level Warlocks DCs for his spells would be 2 higher than his cantrips? No idea why they do not report the same DC...
Perhaps I am missing something, but no idea... thanks for any help,
~Mad
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I hope that works to show... the Sacred Flame and Light DCs are 17, and other spells are at DC 19? Does the Rod of the Pact Keeper only raise Spell DC? not Cantrips?
That might be it, as I am writing all this...
~Mad
Thanks for the link. That might be it, but I notice that the three cantrips affected are not listed on the sheet as Warlock spells: on instance of the light spell is because of your race. The other instance of light and sacred flame are "bonus cantrips" you get as a Celestial warlock. They are not typically warlock spells, and the Rod of the Pact Keeper is specific to warlock spells. That said, I would rule that the bonus cantrips should be considered warlock spells for purposes of using theRod of the Pact Keeper. The instance of light related to your Aasimar race, however, should not be affected. (But that's kind of moot since you have light from your warlock patron, too). So I'm not sure if it's a bug, if it's a feature they haven't been able to model correctly yet, or if it is actually RAW. (There's a whole philosophical debate about precisely the variously worded references to class spell lists)
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Thanks, I appreciate that. I will run that by my DM and see what he thinks. :D
Have a great day,
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D&D Beyond StaffThis definitely looks to be a bug (the spells granted by the Celestial Patron should count as Warlock spells). I've passed this issue along to the dev team.
Thank you sir!
~Mad
Warlock Boon: Pact of the Tome spells display incorrect DC, based on a different ability score than Charisma.
Pact of the Tome
Your patron gives you a grimoire called a Book of Shadows. When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list). While the book is on your person, you can cast those cantrips at will. They don’t count against your number of cantrips known. If they don’t appear on the warlock spell list, they are nonetheless warlock spells for you.
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Thus, the Spell Save DC should be based on on Charisma, rather than whatever modifier would normally apply to this spell.
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So far as I can see, it's the Rod of the Pact Keeper (+3 to saves for Warlock spells) that is not being accounted for on the Pact Boon Spells (un-equipping it gets every leveled off to DC 17).
Yes, that is a known limits of the software.
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Thus my post, because it's a bug.
That has been reported many times over the past 3 years. They know it’s a thing, they just couldn’t fix it before. Hopefully with the system overhaul they are doing that will change, but who knows how long that could take. 🤷♂️
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That was my hope too, because I knew about the system re-work.
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