I'm having issues adding the oath spells provided at different levels (level 3 here) to Paladin characters. For context, my character has the Oath of Redemption, to which expanded rules applies. These are not automatically added to the spell list, and cannot be added manually due to limits on known/prepared spells and, in a few cases, not being in the Paladin spell list.
I've found through a little experimentation that this is a problem that exists for all the expanded rules subclasses (Conquest, Redemption, Crown, and Watchers) as well as Legacy (Oathbreaker). This is not an issue for the 2024 subclasses.
I'm having issues adding the oath spells provided at different levels (level 3 here) to Paladin characters. For context, my character has the Oath of Redemption, to which expanded rules applies. These are not automatically added to the spell list, and cannot be added manually due to limits on known/prepared spells and, in a few cases, not being in the Paladin spell list.
I've found through a little experimentation that this is a problem that exists for all the expanded rules subclasses (Conquest, Redemption, Crown, and Watchers) as well as Legacy (Oathbreaker). This is not an issue for the 2024 subclasses.
Yes, those older subclasses only point to the older versions of the spells, but they aren’t being pulled to the sheets anymore. The current workaround is unfortunately to make a homebrewed version of the subclass and attach the new versions of the spells to it.
I wasn't able to get the homebrew to work properly, so I'm hoping they just fix this bug in the future.
I was able to build a Homebrew based off of the Oath of the Crown Paladin and it works... It's just a lot of work! Worse, it can't be shared to save the rest of the community from all of that work because of the license issue!
But it seems like the DDB Team could just do the same and share that? Why is this still an issue?
Nnnh, is that really the best solution we can get? Everyone individually rebuilds the classes as personal homebrew? I desperately do not wish to do this. I don't have enough time. :( I wish we could have more transparency as to what things are being worked on behind the scenes and whether these things are even going to be actioned on at some point...
I'm also experiencing this issue (example character sheet for Oath of Conquest). The subclass spells are showing in my list of known spells even though not all of them are paladin spells; however, the only way to get them to display on my character sheet is to prepare them even though they should always be prepared and this causes them to be counted against the number of prepared spells I can have at any given time.
In addition, the core class Channel Divinity feature isn't displaying on my character sheet, but the subclass Channel Divinity feature is. This is causing the checkboxes for tracking uses to not be present and the Divine Sense ability isn't displayed.
I understand that there is a lot of work involved in updating the legacy content to be relevant with the 2024 rules; however, these books in the Marketplace specifically state they are 2024 compatible and advertise using them in the character builder tool (for an example see Xanathar's Guide to Everything in Marketplace) when they are clearly not compatible.
Instead of doing a whole-ass subclass, I have just made a feat that I add the spells to when I level up. It's a little clunky and I have to manually do my own spell slots as they show up as unlimited, but it's a mid-level fix that doesn't require building the subclass from the ground up!
I'm still having this problem to date with my Watchers spells not showing up. Thus far it's missing 3rd and 5th levels in Alarm and Moonbeam. Really hoping this gets fixed soon instead of me trying to Homebrew a solution
Same problem with an Oath of Redemption Paladin using the 2024 Paladin... This is really frustrating because I have paid for the source books, paid for the subclass, pay the monthly subscription, and the features we have paid for don't work
I'm having issues adding the oath spells provided at different levels (level 3 here) to Paladin characters. For context, my character has the Oath of Redemption, to which expanded rules applies. These are not automatically added to the spell list, and cannot be added manually due to limits on known/prepared spells and, in a few cases, not being in the Paladin spell list.
I've found through a little experimentation that this is a problem that exists for all the expanded rules subclasses (Conquest, Redemption, Crown, and Watchers) as well as Legacy (Oathbreaker). This is not an issue for the 2024 subclasses.
Yes, those older subclasses only point to the older versions of the spells, but they aren’t being pulled to the sheets anymore. The current workaround is unfortunately to make a homebrewed version of the subclass and attach the new versions of the spells to it.
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I wasn't able to get the homebrew to work properly, so I'm hoping they just fix this bug in the future.
Seconded.
Plus one, please fix this DDB Team!
Same issue, same subclass!
Same issue non core subclass oath spells not showing up on the sheet.
Same issue.
I was able to build a Homebrew based off of the Oath of the Crown Paladin and it works... It's just a lot of work! Worse, it can't be shared to save the rest of the community from all of that work because of the license issue!
But it seems like the DDB Team could just do the same and share that? Why is this still an issue?
Nnnh, is that really the best solution we can get? Everyone individually rebuilds the classes as personal homebrew? I desperately do not wish to do this. I don't have enough time. :( I wish we could have more transparency as to what things are being worked on behind the scenes and whether these things are even going to be actioned on at some point...
I'm also experiencing this issue (example character sheet for Oath of Conquest). The subclass spells are showing in my list of known spells even though not all of them are paladin spells; however, the only way to get them to display on my character sheet is to prepare them even though they should always be prepared and this causes them to be counted against the number of prepared spells I can have at any given time.
In addition, the core class Channel Divinity feature isn't displaying on my character sheet, but the subclass Channel Divinity feature is. This is causing the checkboxes for tracking uses to not be present and the Divine Sense ability isn't displayed.
I understand that there is a lot of work involved in updating the legacy content to be relevant with the 2024 rules; however, these books in the Marketplace specifically state they are 2024 compatible and advertise using them in the character builder tool (for an example see Xanathar's Guide to Everything in Marketplace) when they are clearly not compatible.
Instead of doing a whole-ass subclass, I have just made a feat that I add the spells to when I level up. It's a little clunky and I have to manually do my own spell slots as they show up as unlimited, but it's a mid-level fix that doesn't require building the subclass from the ground up!
I'm still having this problem to date with my Watchers spells not showing up. Thus far it's missing 3rd and 5th levels in Alarm and Moonbeam. Really hoping this gets fixed soon instead of me trying to Homebrew a solution
Same issue. Please fix this Wizards! Oathbreaker subclass
This same problem exists for the paladin subclass in Heliana's Guide as well.
Having the same problem on my Oath of the Watchers
Same problem with an Oath of Redemption Paladin using the 2024 Paladin... This is really frustrating because I have paid for the source books, paid for the subclass, pay the monthly subscription, and the features we have paid for don't work
Weekly bump that shit's broken. Still don't have my Oath spells from my subclass.
So much for content being backwards compatible.
I already addressed this in another thread.
The final result is the same. The content is unavailable a year after this launched.