I hope that I don't get dragged out and set on fire for saying this here, but I'm not quite ready to cancel my sub just yet. That said, if the new OGL turns out to be what it appears to be, there is no way I'll be moving to 1D&D. I'll stick to using the core 3 5e books I own physical copies of and the fantastic Kobold Press stuff I already own. Not sure what the paradigm will look like for my online games at that point, but I'll get it sorted I'm sure.
You do you! The purpose of this thread is gathering numbers, not dragging others. Thank you for your addition to the metric and explaining what you voted!
I did about year ago, pretty much lost my interest in any new d&d product with release of Strixhaven, and every new release in '22 was just a massive disappointment so I have no regrets.
But I'm tempted to subscribe again just to unsub immediately.
I did about year ago, pretty much lost my interest in any new d&d product with release of Strixhaven, and every new release in '22 was just a massive disappointment so I have no regrets.
But I'm tempted to subscribe again just to unsub immediately.
Probably not a good idea to resub and unsub. It might create an unintentional uptick, even if for a bit. Also, best not just give your money to them if you plan this as you still will be fully charged with no refund.
Apologies for not fully reading the purpose of the thread, I’ve edited my post.
My groups and I will be taking a hiatus from D&D for the next couple years anyway (just canceled my GM membership) to explore other alternatives. May this dark portent be but a nightmare that fades with the dawn, and if not may fortune favor you and your party in the years to come, wherever your path may take you!
Apologies for not fully reading the purpose of the thread, I’ve edited my post.
My groups and I will be taking a hiatus from D&D for the next couple years anyway (just canceled my GM membership) to explore other alternatives. May this dark portent be but a nightmare that fades with the dawn, and if not may fortune favor you and your party in the years to come, wherever your path may take you!
As a fellow DM, I understand how big a deal it is to unsub. I hope you and your party find what makes all of you happy, and keep on having fun. I'll update this poll opener soon to reflect the new "update" on the GSL2.0 being posted.
I've been a D&D player and sometime DM since 2e. I love this game; but I am both saddened and sickened as I watch the PC,SJW, pronoun BULLSHIT of the real world I'm trying to leave behind invade my game while the company who runs that game tries to act progressive and oh so holier than thou liberal while in the shadows of NDAs tries to drape 3rd party creators of their autonomy and their IP while shoving this wholly bad deal down their throat. They are becoming the BBEG that we must defeat.
Well, just downloaded all my Characters as PDFs and unsubbed. Ironic that WotC bought dndbeyond for all the great metrics and now this one is going to tell them how poor of a decision they are going to make if they release OGL 1.1 leaked version - as restrictive and not open as it is in that form - and try to revoke OGL 1.0a.
Now that Wizards of the Coast has ceded to everyone's demands and apologized for their actions, how many of you are going to resubscribe?
The sincerity of their regretful outpouring and overwhelming truthfulness of their promises of good intentions have won me over.............
*Charm Person duration expires*
Oh wait know I'd sooner stick my head in a hydras mouth than take their "word" for anything, they can deliver a new hard copy for us to judge or affirm 1.0a as actually irrevocable you know like you did a few years back. I wonder were they lying then or just from now.
"A couple of last thoughts. First, we won’t be able to release the new OGL today, because we need to make sure we get it right, but it is coming. Second, you’re going to hear people say that they won, and we lost because making your voices heard forced us to change our plans. Those people will only be half right. They won—and so did we."
That line in their response made me laugh and not want to resub.
Sad to see corporate greed wreck a community I love.
my comment:
The OGL change, even what I’ve heard of the updated one, goes against how we, as a community operate. It’s possible to profit from DND without betraying our principles. Prove that you won’t take advantage of content creators that acted in good faith and I’ll sign up again. Until then, I won’t buy WOTC products and my group will likely be moving to another system when my annual expires.
The real question is whether they will have a sale on new subscriptions to draw people back or whether they will try to punish people for unsubscribing by jacking the prices up!
I've been a D&D player and sometime DM since 2e. I love this game; but I am both saddened and sickened as I watch the PC,SJW, pronoun BULLSHIT of the real world I'm trying to leave behind invade my game while the company who runs that game tries to act progressive and oh so holier than thou liberal while in the shadows of NDAs tries to drape 3rd party creators of their autonomy and their IP while shoving this wholly bad deal down their throat. They are becoming the BBEG that we must defeat.
This thread is dedicated to the gathering of data as a metric to see a ratio of people unsubscriping, waiting, or not. Please calm down and take the weirdly placed wrath to a thread devoted to discussing such topics. This is a data analysis thread where people vote and maybe comment on what they voted.
I think I'm waiting. It was a huge misstep on the part of WoTC and Hasbro, but until things are finalized I don't want to lose my stuff because I judged to quickly. I'm going to still play D&D, even if the new OGL turns out to be as bad as the leaked one. I just love the game, and it's what me and my players are comfortable with.
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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
I did about year ago, pretty much lost my interest in any new d&d product with release of Strixhaven, and every new release in '22 was just a massive disappointment so I have no regrets.
But I'm tempted to subscribe again just to unsub immediately.
Probably not a good idea to resub and unsub. It might create an unintentional uptick, even if for a bit. Also, best not just give your money to them if you plan this as you still will be fully charged with no refund.
I think when I've paid through paypal in the past and canceled within the same day I got a refund. But you're right, I'm not going to give a penny. WotC are dead to me now :)
You do you! The purpose of this thread is gathering numbers, not dragging others. Thank you for your addition to the metric and explaining what you voted!
I did about year ago, pretty much lost my interest in any new d&d product with release of Strixhaven, and every new release in '22 was just a massive disappointment so I have no regrets.
But I'm tempted to subscribe again just to unsub immediately.
Probably not a good idea to resub and unsub. It might create an unintentional uptick, even if for a bit. Also, best not just give your money to them if you plan this as you still will be fully charged with no refund.
Much less bias poll than others.
Apologies for not fully reading the purpose of the thread, I’ve edited my post.
My groups and I will be taking a hiatus from D&D for the next couple years anyway (just canceled my GM membership) to explore other alternatives. May this dark portent be but a nightmare that fades with the dawn, and if not may fortune favor you and your party in the years to come, wherever your path may take you!
As a fellow DM, I understand how big a deal it is to unsub. I hope you and your party find what makes all of you happy, and keep on having fun. I'll update this poll opener soon to reflect the new "update" on the GSL2.0 being posted.
I've been a D&D player and sometime DM since 2e. I love this game; but I am both saddened and sickened as I watch the PC,SJW, pronoun BULLSHIT of the real world I'm trying to leave behind invade my game while the company who runs that game tries to act progressive and oh so holier than thou liberal while in the shadows of NDAs tries to drape 3rd party creators of their autonomy and their IP while shoving this wholly bad deal down their throat. They are becoming the BBEG that we must defeat.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/1096wqm/for_anyone_else_wanting_to_cancel_their_dd_beyond/
I didn't have a subscription, so submitted a request to delete my account.
Do we have numbers on the poll? I see % of respondants, but total number is necessary to get a full view of this.
I've unsubbed from my Master Tier subscription, this despicable move by WotC is unacceptable and I will not support them financially ever again
Well, just downloaded all my Characters as PDFs and unsubbed. Ironic that WotC bought dndbeyond for all the great metrics and now this one is going to tell them how poor of a decision they are going to make if they release OGL 1.1 leaked version - as restrictive and not open as it is in that form - and try to revoke OGL 1.0a.
Now that Wizards of the Coast has ceded to everyone's demands and apologized for their actions, how many of you are going to resubscribe?
The sincerity of their regretful outpouring and overwhelming truthfulness of their promises of good intentions have won me over.............
*Charm Person duration expires*
Oh wait know I'd sooner stick my head in a hydras mouth than take their "word" for anything, they can deliver a new hard copy for us to judge or affirm 1.0a as actually irrevocable you know like you did a few years back. I wonder were they lying then or just from now.
"A couple of last thoughts. First, we won’t be able to release the new OGL today, because we need to make sure we get it right, but it is coming. Second, you’re going to hear people say that they won, and we lost because making your voices heard forced us to change our plans. Those people will only be half right. They won—and so did we."
That line in their response made me laugh and not want to resub.
3+ year master tier cancelled.
Sad to see corporate greed wreck a community I love.
my comment:
The OGL change, even what I’ve heard of the updated one, goes against how we, as a community operate. It’s possible to profit from DND without betraying our principles. Prove that you won’t take advantage of content creators that acted in good faith and I’ll sign up again. Until then, I won’t buy WOTC products and my group will likely be moving to another system when my annual expires.
The real question is whether they will have a sale on new subscriptions to draw people back or whether they will try to punish people for unsubscribing by jacking the prices up!
This thread is dedicated to the gathering of data as a metric to see a ratio of people unsubscriping, waiting, or not. Please calm down and take the weirdly placed wrath to a thread devoted to discussing such topics. This is a data analysis thread where people vote and maybe comment on what they voted.
I did it yesterday when the cancelled the 3pm live stream and then put up a BS cancellation notice at 3:20.
I think I'm waiting. It was a huge misstep on the part of WoTC and Hasbro, but until things are finalized I don't want to lose my stuff because I judged to quickly. I'm going to still play D&D, even if the new OGL turns out to be as bad as the leaked one. I just love the game, and it's what me and my players are comfortable with.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
- Litany Against Fear, Frank Herbert
I think when I've paid through paypal in the past and canceled within the same day I got a refund. But you're right, I'm not going to give a penny. WotC are dead to me now :)