I mean Yurei, I kinda get that. That's similar to how I felt about Wildemount.
At least some of the mechanics might be able to be adapted to another setting. Like, I'm not too excited for Wildemount, but the Time/space magic in it is actually something I would be really interested in having on my character in Faerun.
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Theros is definitely not a "real greek mythology setting". What makes it be a real greek mythology setting? It just has similar races and slightly similar gods.
I would prefer a book detailing the rules of actually playing in Ancient Greece to this. Now that this book is coming out, that never will happen. It isn't something I really want to happen, never really thought of that before today, but it is what I'd prefer to this world.
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Oh well. Other people can by all means enjoy, suppose it's a little taste of my own medicine for being excited to see the Explorer's Guide to Wildemount. Just means that if I ever want to run a Hero Myth-style game I get to figure out how do it myself. Fair enough.
Or you could just buy this book, resin whatever you want, and stop complaining quite so much. Your doctor would probably recommend it, with as butthurt as you can get sometimes you BP must be something like 190/100. I’m genuinely concerned for your health. Maybe try yoga or decaf or something. Pet a cat, aroma therapy, something.
Heh. I've had my years of supporting Wizards products just because I wanted them to succeed, Sposta. They shitcanned my favorite tabletop game ever for no real reason, they screwed my brother out of a ten thousand dollar M:tG collection he'd curated over a period of six years of driving hundreds of miles out of his way to attend their big fancy events, and their design philosophy for 5e here can be charitably described as, at best, slipshod.
Nah. If Wizards wants my money they can bloody well earn it from now on. And up until the mods decide to toss me for good, I may as well opine from time to time between calls at work here. They want people to get excited over M:tG crossovers, they can make those crossovers not the sort of whiffy hog shyte the Ravnica book was.
Maybe this one will be better. Who knows. We'll see, I suppose.
It should be a lot cleaner than the Ravnica book. Theros had a much better world development with a more experienced Creative team and the stories and lore that came out around the first trip there were really good. The second, more recent, trip is a little on the iffy side for in-verse reasons that shouldn't be much of an issue in translating the world over to D&D. Honestly, it's going to be a pretty easy lift converting Theros over to D&D and making it feel like it belongs, I think.
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As a big MTG and D&D fan I am very excited for this setting. I am a big fan of Theros and Greek mythology I can not wait for this book to release.
Same, Theros was a big win for me in terms of flavour and I'm excited to see that same theme brought into D&D. It'll be nice to have something that's such a big departure from Forgotten Realms, like Eberron was but in the other direction. Ancient Greek mythology is such a cool source of inspiration, so having more stuff to riff off of and be influenced by will be great.
Also, the options sound really cool; new subclasses, 'tougher than legendary' monsters, supernatural boons. I'm hyped.
As a huge MTG fan I'm psyched. I understand why people wouldn't be, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I'd tell them what they told me when I got annoyed with things like Acquisitions Incorporated or Wildemount—this book is not for you. You don't have to play it. (And to be honest, while I wouldn't play this setting with someone who didn't care at least a bit about the Magic lore, I think it's still an excellent Greek myth setting for people who aren't into the card game.)
Sidenote: I would love to see an Ixalan sourcebook (I've run adventures there before), and, maybe, my two favorite planes, Innistrad and Eldraine, even if they're not too different from stuff we already have.
Oh, and P.S. Yurei, you really aren't helping your case for disliking the setting by insulting Magic players. It is as generalizing and toxic as the people who claim all Critters are not real D&D fans. I personally would rather have a Magic player, even one who fits your stereotype (and I've never personally met one who does), at my table than someone who acts toxic.
I used to be really into M:tG, I still like it, but don't play much anymore. I am however super excited to see Leonin as a playable race, I wonder what features we'll see on them.
I used to be really into M:tG, I still like it, but don't play much anymore. I am however super excited to see Leonin as a playable race, I wonder what features we'll see on them.
I guess +2 to STR, +1 to CHA or WIS, advantage on saving throws against being frightened (maybe charmed as well), and darkvision. Claws/Bite as a natural weapon possibly.
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Regardless, I honestly never got into M:tG but either way this campaign setting sounds really fun. I've always loved Greek mythology so this should be a blast.
As a huge MTG fan I'm psyched. I understand why people wouldn't be, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I'd tell them what they told me when I got annoyed with things like Acquisitions Incorporated or Wildemount—this book is not for you. You don't have to play it. (And to be honest, while I wouldn't play this setting with someone who didn't care at least a bit about the Magic lore, I think it's still an excellent Greek myth setting for people who aren't into the card game.)
I don't know. I've been into MtG for (oh no) 18 years or so but I've never been excited about the Magic/D&D crossovers - and Ravnica was by far my favorite setting. By the same token, I love Critical Role (especially as a recruiting tool) but I'm not gonna spare a glance for Wildemount.
Part of it is because I don't really like setting-specific materials. We have seven setting sourcebooks at this point, and only what, six hardcover setting agnostic books to pull from? Its an added barrier to options if a player wants to play a Simic Hybrid but then needs to work with the DM to figure out how a Simic Hybrid happened in a world with no Simics. As a DM, I arch an eyebrow whenever somebody pulls in material from a different setting because there's usually no lore-friendly reason to do so and it often feels. . . munchkiny.
I specifically resent the MtG material because, well, MtG has a much more predatory business model than D&D, and I say this as a fan of both. It feels as if Wizards/Hasbro is trying to get more people into Magic from the D&D base because thats where they make bigger profits. Seven people can drop $100 on D&D books and get thousands of hours of playtime out of it. One person dropping $100 on MtG won't even get them a standard-viable deck.
I'm happy you're all getting a book you're excited for, but I would have preferred something like another Volo's, or a published, hardcover Unearthed Arcana/Arcana Unearthed.
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I mean Yurei, I kinda get that. That's similar to how I felt about Wildemount.
At least some of the mechanics might be able to be adapted to another setting. Like, I'm not too excited for Wildemount, but the Time/space magic in it is actually something I would be really interested in having on my character in Faerun.
Where did you find that list of inclusions like the reprints etc?
I don’t know about y’all, but I for one am so very happy we have official D&D rules for Loxodon and Vedalken.
Theros is definitely not a "real greek mythology setting". What makes it be a real greek mythology setting? It just has similar races and slightly similar gods.
I would prefer a book detailing the rules of actually playing in Ancient Greece to this. Now that this book is coming out, that never will happen. It isn't something I really want to happen, never really thought of that before today, but it is what I'd prefer to this world.
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Or you could just buy this book, resin whatever you want, and stop complaining quite so much. Your doctor would probably recommend it, with as butthurt as you can get sometimes you BP must be something like 190/100. I’m genuinely concerned for your health. Maybe try yoga or decaf or something. Pet a cat, aroma therapy, something.
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I assume the Leonins will have advantage against being frightened, and Satyrs will be fey.
Any other speculation on the races?
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Heh. I've had my years of supporting Wizards products just because I wanted them to succeed, Sposta. They shitcanned my favorite tabletop game ever for no real reason, they screwed my brother out of a ten thousand dollar M:tG collection he'd curated over a period of six years of driving hundreds of miles out of his way to attend their big fancy events, and their design philosophy for 5e here can be charitably described as, at best, slipshod.
Nah. If Wizards wants my money they can bloody well earn it from now on. And up until the mods decide to toss me for good, I may as well opine from time to time between calls at work here. They want people to get excited over M:tG crossovers, they can make those crossovers not the sort of whiffy hog shyte the Ravnica book was.
Maybe this one will be better. Who knows. We'll see, I suppose.
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It should be a lot cleaner than the Ravnica book. Theros had a much better world development with a more experienced Creative team and the stories and lore that came out around the first trip there were really good. The second, more recent, trip is a little on the iffy side for in-verse reasons that shouldn't be much of an issue in translating the world over to D&D. Honestly, it's going to be a pretty easy lift converting Theros over to D&D and making it feel like it belongs, I think.
As a big MTG and D&D fan I am very excited for this setting. I am a big fan of Theros and Greek mythology I can not wait for this book to release.
Same, Theros was a big win for me in terms of flavour and I'm excited to see that same theme brought into D&D. It'll be nice to have something that's such a big departure from Forgotten Realms, like Eberron was but in the other direction. Ancient Greek mythology is such a cool source of inspiration, so having more stuff to riff off of and be influenced by will be great.
Also, the options sound really cool; new subclasses, 'tougher than legendary' monsters, supernatural boons. I'm hyped.
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As a huge MTG fan I'm psyched. I understand why people wouldn't be, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I'd tell them what they told me when I got annoyed with things like Acquisitions Incorporated or Wildemount—this book is not for you. You don't have to play it. (And to be honest, while I wouldn't play this setting with someone who didn't care at least a bit about the Magic lore, I think it's still an excellent Greek myth setting for people who aren't into the card game.)
Sidenote: I would love to see an Ixalan sourcebook (I've run adventures there before), and, maybe, my two favorite planes, Innistrad and Eldraine, even if they're not too different from stuff we already have.
Oh, and P.S. Yurei, you really aren't helping your case for disliking the setting by insulting Magic players. It is as generalizing and toxic as the people who claim all Critters are not real D&D fans. I personally would rather have a Magic player, even one who fits your stereotype (and I've never personally met one who does), at my table than someone who acts toxic.
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I used to be really into M:tG, I still like it, but don't play much anymore. I am however super excited to see Leonin as a playable race, I wonder what features we'll see on them.
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I guess +2 to STR, +1 to CHA or WIS, advantage on saving throws against being frightened (maybe charmed as well), and darkvision. Claws/Bite as a natural weapon possibly.
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what an oddly aggressive post.
Regardless, I honestly never got into M:tG but either way this campaign setting sounds really fun. I've always loved Greek mythology so this should be a blast.
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I'd be careful about assuming there'll be too much Greek Mythology in this 'Hero Myth' setting. One can always hope, but...well.
Loxodon. Just...loxodon.
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I don't know. I've been into MtG for (oh no) 18 years or so but I've never been excited about the Magic/D&D crossovers - and Ravnica was by far my favorite setting. By the same token, I love Critical Role (especially as a recruiting tool) but I'm not gonna spare a glance for Wildemount.
Part of it is because I don't really like setting-specific materials. We have seven setting sourcebooks at this point, and only what, six hardcover setting agnostic books to pull from? Its an added barrier to options if a player wants to play a Simic Hybrid but then needs to work with the DM to figure out how a Simic Hybrid happened in a world with no Simics. As a DM, I arch an eyebrow whenever somebody pulls in material from a different setting because there's usually no lore-friendly reason to do so and it often feels. . . munchkiny.
I specifically resent the MtG material because, well, MtG has a much more predatory business model than D&D, and I say this as a fan of both. It feels as if Wizards/Hasbro is trying to get more people into Magic from the D&D base because thats where they make bigger profits. Seven people can drop $100 on D&D books and get thousands of hours of playtime out of it. One person dropping $100 on MtG won't even get them a standard-viable deck.
I'm happy you're all getting a book you're excited for, but I would have preferred something like another Volo's, or a published, hardcover Unearthed Arcana/Arcana Unearthed.
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