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Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
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Yep. This is the straw that makes me unsubscribe. I've spent well over $1k worth of material from this site and been a master tier subscriber for years. The way this site is run oozes of greed and distain for its customer base. I've been interested in Pathfinder 2e for a while now and this is as good a reason as any to learn a new system instead of be forced to adopt a half-baked one.
Not sure yet, how the changes being proposed for the character sheets is going to affect them. I'd recommend making pdfs of the characters and storing them on your laptop/computer hard drive just to err on the side of caution. That way you have a hard copy of the original to refer to.
Subscription cancelled.
What happens if you are mid-campaign with existing content in this model? Did anyone explore the impact on actual players of this decision? I don’t want to open my character sheet and have a different Spellbook in the middle of an ongoing campaign personally, and I assume a lot of other people would feel the same.
legacy tag seemed to work fine
I want to add to my previous frustrated feedback that, honestly, most of the changelog is fine to me. Classes, subclasses, species, backgrounds, feats, and even monsters get a legacy tag, still accessible, great! I even get having just the updated rules for things like exhaustion; I typically had to go look those up in the book anyway, so I don't mind. That all sounds fine for the most part.
But why exclude spells and magic items? Why did the effort to keep legacy content available only go so far? Was it an issue of double-listing things? It seems like there could've been an overhaul that yes, would've been more work initially, but would be better for this transition and player satisfaction in the long run. At the very least this is creating an impression that people are losing a lot of things they paid for access to (an arguable point, seeing as the old books will still exist, but at the very least the impression is there, and it's bad). Just a very weird choice that needs explanation.
What a crock.
You only need to add a version ID to the database entry for these things and let the players decide. Unless the idea is to force us into the new content.
In either case, I'm strongly considering unsubscribing.
Because I want to make it clear that this move is the reason I cancelled. I want the statistics to show that staring in Sept, accounts began cancelling their subs once they realized the content they needed for their campaigns was altered without any recourse.
I'm petty, okay?
When you cancel, you're asked to list a cancellation reason, and it gives you a field you can type into. You can be very clear why you're cancelling while still doing it with enough lead time that just maybe this gets fixed. I certainly was.
Also if you do it now you show it was when they made the announcement
Good call, I've cancelled my renewal.
Unsubscribe.. Fill out feedback forms https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=225303 Money talks for companies... words don't. Share with your players, share with your DM's share with everyone that these terrible decisions are impacting...
Has it been answered yet if spells and items released under 2014 that will not get an updated version will still be available?
And lets say I own the 2014 PHB, will spells that got an update still be available to me, or will these be locked after the update?
Sigh. Another one on the cancel pile, I suppose. This is ridiculous. Homebrewing spells and magic items we already have, really? The legacy system is already in place, just use that for everything that's changed... Gah. And here I thought I escaped pen and paper.
I've unsubscribed as i still have access for my current subscription. The only thing they listen too is cancellations.
Money.
By making the experience miserable and using the old ruleset tedious, they're hoping to force people to re-buy the books out of sheer frustration.
I am interested in why you are doing this now instead of waiting until you have a list of exactly which spells/items are being made unavailable. Please don't take this as accusatory or having some ulterior motive behind my post. Truthfully, you are one of my favorite posters on this entire site, so I am asking out of genuine curiosity.
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This has to be the dumbest decision in a. long time. D&D is NOT World of Warcraft, where you just change up everything and everyone just deals with it, because everyone’s play experience is amended to be in alignment with the mechanics out of the gate. For many of us, we are in the middle of campaigns in the 2014 ruleset, and have no plans to move to the 2024 ruleset until we finish our current campaigns. I’m sorry, but neither WotC nor Hasbro has the right to brute force a mid-campaign rule swap. And I can always buy the 2014 ruleset as used books, bypassing the need for D&D Beyond.
I’m going to be blunt. I don’t need “digital D&D.” My group uses a VTT because we are spread across multiple states. All we need are tokens and maps. If I want to play a multiplayer virtual tabletop, it’s called an MMORPG and I scratch that itch with any number of them: WoW, FFXIV, Rift, even DDO. DDB could have been a lovely, polished VTT to compete with Roll 20 and Fantasy Grounds, but y’all decided to Frankenstein the animated aspects of the MMORPG with the mechanics of die rolling. I mean, fine - Larian pulled that off with BG3, but I don’t pay for DDB for that. I pay DDB to have access to the digital ruleset and to fiddle around with builds when my DM’s campaign in Fantasy Grounds is offline. Honestly, Hasbro has no clue how to handle the IP.
The answer is to roll all the 2014 stuff to legacy that can be toggled, and just post the 2024 stuff under its own ruleset. Because mashing it together is just going to result in those of us using this site as reference material in stopping our subscriptions. I am not going to fight the interface on this website to find the information I need. And if I can’t keep digital copies of my character sheets as-is, this site is useless to me. I will decide if and when I will adopt the 2024 ruleset, not WotC and certainly not Hasbro. You are not Blizzard, and the digital expression of D&D is certainly not WoW.
And frankly, if Hasbro wants to compete in the MMORPG space, just take DDO and either give that IP to a developer who can put better polish on it or buy Turbine and invest in better art assets. Folks looking for the “D&D flavor” in their MMORPG space will be happy, and Hasbro isn’t re-inventing the wheel.
I imagine the reason of "it's better to be safe than sorry" applies here.
Wonderful! You have just successfully alienated pretty much all of your customers.
You seem to have a terminal case of HUA Syndrome.
Archive nothing; tag Legacy as such!
This is the worst decision possible. I will be terminating my master subscription and moving to another RPG. This is a blatant money move that hurts players and destroys the years of work I have put in as a DM. After the OGL fiasco and this, no one should ever trust WotC to do anything other than ruin a consumer's experience with their services.