This might be an odd question but is it possible to transfer characters? As DM I've occasionally made characters for players who aren't familiar with the game or else I've had players leave a campaign but transferred the character to another active player. Would it be possible for me as a DM to Archive all characters that play in my games, copying them into my account for storage?
Reading through this thread, it looks like this is a “future enhancement” but I will throw it out there as at least a request/ Use Case Scenario to consider when developing. My son’s friends are just getting started in D&D and I am planning on going Legendary & Master Tier. My ideal situation would be to have a campaign where I can share all sourcebooks with everyone and share adventures with only 1 person (the one actually DMing). That would have me all set! (Well, that and adding in 3pp DMs Guild content *cough* pugilist *cough*, but I know that’s a big ask that will have to wait.) ;)
Just the ability to toggle each book as “everyone in campaign” or “DM only” would be great. For now, it sounds like it’s “trust the players not to peak at adventures” but I know some of my son’s friends. :)
Reading through this thread, it looks like this is a “future enhancement” but I will throw it out there as at least a request/ Use Case Scenario to consider when developing. My son’s friends are just getting started in D&D and I am planning on going Legendary & Master Tier. My ideal situation would be to have a campaign where I can share all sourcebooks with everyone and share adventures with only 1 person (the one actually DMing). That would have me all set! (Well, that and adding in 3pp DMs Guild content *cough* pugilist *cough*, but I know that’s a big ask that will have to wait.) ;)
Just the ability to toggle each book as “everyone in campaign” or “DM only” would be great. For now, it sounds like it’s “trust the players not to peak at adventures” but I know some of my son’s friends. :)
Thanks! Can’t wait for the 15th!!
I think BadEye said that selective whitelisting of resources was something the developers want to do but it won't be in at launch.
Reading through this thread, it looks like this is a “future enhancement” but I will throw it out there as at least a request/ Use Case Scenario to consider when developing. My son’s friends are just getting started in D&D and I am planning on going Legendary & Master Tier. My ideal situation would be to have a campaign where I can share all sourcebooks with everyone and share adventures with only 1 person (the one actually DMing). That would have me all set! (Well, that and adding in 3pp DMs Guild content *cough* pugilist *cough*, but I know that’s a big ask that will have to wait.) ;)
Just the ability to toggle each book as “everyone in campaign” or “DM only” would be great. For now, it sounds like it’s “trust the players not to peak at adventures” but I know some of my son’s friends. :)
Thanks! Can’t wait for the 15th!!
I think BadEye said that selective whitelisting of resources was something the developers want to do but it won't be in at launch.
Oh, exactly! Guess I should have worded it clearer or just been patient. I didn’t mean it as a question but more as a request or an example to keep in mind when they do get to building it.
Mostly, I’m just eager for launch and keep thinking about and wanting to discuss ways I want to use this. :)
(Well, that and adding in 3pp DMs Guild content *cough* pugilist *cough*, but I know that’s a big ask that will have to wait.) ;)
I think Pugilist is one of the homebrew classes people are asking for most. It's such a good class and it uses features from other classes, just recombined in a unique way.
It looks like the Monk would be the easiest to use as a template as Pugilist because the foundation is a STR based Monk with a few changes.
I think the only thing that would be needed is to rename Ki points to Moxie points, rename martial arts to fisticuffs, tag the weapons that can be used with fisticuffs, replace the Monk in armored defense with the Barbarian version, and make unarmed/fisticuff attacks use STR as normal.
If there's ever the opportunity to beta something like that for the devs, I would be more than happy to work on it so that we could get it out quicker.
Reading through this thread, it looks like this is a “future enhancement” but I will throw it out there as at least a request/ Use Case Scenario to consider when developing. My son’s friends are just getting started in D&D and I am planning on going Legendary & Master Tier. My ideal situation would be to have a campaign where I can share all sourcebooks with everyone and share adventures with only 1 person (the one actually DMing). That would have me all set! (Well, that and adding in 3pp DMs Guild content *cough* pugilist *cough*, but I know that’s a big ask that will have to wait.) ;)
Just the ability to toggle each book as “everyone in campaign” or “DM only” would be great. For now, it sounds like it’s “trust the players not to peak at adventures” but I know some of my son’s friends. :)
Thanks! Can’t wait for the 15th!!
I think BadEye said that selective whitelisting of resources was something the developers want to do but it won't be in at launch.
This, however they (Badeye in this post) have specifically acknowledged the fact that the more something is asked for the higher it moves up the list of priorities. even if you see it asked for and on a list, it doesn't seem to hurt to add that you also want it. They have basically said the order in which things will be added is based on a combo of the user-requests/demands and the ease of implementation (a dice roller isn't super high on the requested list, but it's easy to implement was a specific example they gave as to why it will be implemented soon, whereas the encounter builder is really high on the list, but is much more complicated so will take longer to see).
I just wanted to say this because I see a few people and I myself in the past have hopped on to reply and say "well DNDB staff have already said it's in the works down the line" but they have acknowledged that the higher the demand (based on forum posts and surveys) the more likely it will get added/higher up the list it will go.
I'm not exactly sure what the point of all this nitpicking for you is. This service is useful for some people, and not for others. If you feel like there's no value in it for you, that's fine. D&D Beyond doesn't fit absolutely everyone's needs. It fits a wide variety of people's needs, but it's not for everyone.
If you're here to get us to sell you on the product, that's not really our job. There are plenty of us who are more than willing to help answer questions that you may have, but I, for one, will not sell anyone on it, especially someone who seems determined not to get it.
If, on the other hand, your intent is to devalue the product in other people's eyes, I'd request you stop. D&D Beyond works for some, and not for others. Trying to devalue it because it doesn't fit your needs isn't very productive. It's just antagonistic, and I, for one, am not really up for combating a troll.
I'm here because I have thoughts that I wanted to share about a product that I'm interested in. If you feel that I'm nitpicking, I disagree to the tune of over $50 a year for several years. I'm sorry you feel that I'm devaluing the product, and I'm not sure how to respond to that. I have a tremendous amount of respect for the Beyond team, and you can go through my post history to see where I've praised them, and posted threads that I thought would help build the Beyond community.
As far as my expectations of you, it's simply that you are also here to discuss the thing that I'm interested in, and nothing more. You don't need to sell me on anything. Or even read my posts, let alone respond to them. I certainly don't come here to be antagonistic, or to troll you (or anyone else). I think my posts have made you feel defensive, and I honestly wish that that hadn't happened. I appreciate your time engaging with me, and your enthusiasm for the product.
On a completely separate note, I'm having trouble finding the price page by trying to navigate to it without using the forums. Where is it linked in the documentation pages?
I'm going to leave this as mostly settled, largely because I don't see a point in continuing it, but I will clarify that my response is out of your insistence on repeating the same line of questioning that multiple people have answered in similar ways across multiple conversation chains in this thread, and you kept asking them all the same. It was becoming very clear to me that you were fishing for something, but you weren't getting what you wanted, so you continued to push for it. You're right that I didn't need to respond, but I was trying to be helpful, and I felt I was being very clear in the way things work, even making a point to address an underlying concern that it didn't have extended value for that scenario, and trying to close out the fact by conceeding that D&D Beyond isn't going to work out for everyone. Curse has made their business decisions to create the Master tier, by offering some people options to share content with up to 36 other people for less than the cost of 2-3 books per year. If I were to make a guess, it would be because they're aware that not everyone can afford to buy everything, or even anything, and the solution works to help mitigate the cost to the players while bringing in additional revenue that they'd otherwise never see. The additional cost may not work for everyone, although it could easily be argued that you could ask the free players to chip in to the $55 only, as a means of offsetting your cost, and minimizing how much they have to pay. Or you can do it at the monthly rate, or whatever. Back to the point, they made that decision, and if that doesn't work for everyone, that's fine, but repeating the same question (which I will gladly point out that you've large strayed away from) was frustrating, especially when multiple people were offering reasonable answers for questions you kept repeating, looking for a specific answer, instead of inferring what you need from that. Hence my reaction. Since the issue has been largely settled, we can leave it all be. As I said, I just wanted to clarify my frustration.
(Well, that and adding in 3pp DMs Guild content *cough* pugilist *cough*, but I know that’s a big ask that will have to wait.) ;)
I think Pugilist is one of the homebrew classes people are asking for most. It's such a good class and it uses features from other classes, just recombined in a unique way.
I needs me some UA Revised Ranger!
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(Well, that and adding in 3pp DMs Guild content *cough* pugilist *cough*, but I know that’s a big ask that will have to wait.) ;)
I think Pugilist is one of the homebrew classes people are asking for most. It's such a good class and it uses features from other classes, just recombined in a unique way.
I needs me some UA Revised Ranger!
The UA Revised Ranger is big improvement. I have a sneaking suspicion we're going to see this in Xanathar's in November. People really seemed to like it.
If that's the case (which I hope it is because it's great), that could maybe open up the option of alternate base classes and pave the way for homebrew base classes that are built off current class components and features.
I'm super excited for Xanathar's and I think I'm going to just buy it through DDB and skip the hardcover.
I'm going to leave this as mostly settled, largely because I don't see a point in continuing it, but I will clarify that my response is out of your insistence on repeating the same line of questioning that multiple people have answered in similar ways across multiple conversation chains in this thread, and you kept asking them all the same. It was becoming very clear to me that you were fishing for something, but you weren't getting what you wanted, so you continued to push for it. You're right that I didn't need to respond, but I was trying to be helpful, and I felt I was being very clear in the way things work, even making a point to address an underlying concern that it didn't have extended value for that scenario, and trying to close out the fact by conceeding that D&D Beyond isn't going to work out for everyone. Curse has made their business decisions to create the Master tier, by offering some people options to share content with up to 36 other people for less than the cost of 2-3 books per year. If I were to make a guess, it would be because they're aware that not everyone can afford to buy everything, or even anything, and the solution works to help mitigate the cost to the players while bringing in additional revenue that they'd otherwise never see. The additional cost may not work for everyone, although it could easily be argued that you could ask the free players to chip in to the $55 only, as a means of offsetting your cost, and minimizing how much they have to pay. Or you can do it at the monthly rate, or whatever. Back to the point, they made that decision, and if that doesn't work for everyone, that's fine, but repeating the same question (which I will gladly point out that you've large strayed away from) was frustrating, especially when multiple people were offering reasonable answers for questions you kept repeating, looking for a specific answer, instead of inferring what you need from that. Hence my reaction. Since the issue has been largely settled, we can leave it all be. As I said, I just wanted to clarify my frustration.
I'm certainly slow on the pickup sometimes, and often need to review information in a variety of ways before I really understand it. I suspect others are the same. I'm guessing that's why repetition is an accepted rhetorical device.
I regret that I didn't take your concession that "D&D Beyond isn't going to work out for everyone" to mean very much (honestly, it felt dismissive...), and that I caused you to become frustrated. That is perhaps why you called me a troll. And you're right when you say that I can ask for others to give or lend me money or to pay for things for me. As I said above about other options, these exist, but aren't what I consider reasonable options. I would consider it broad-minded of you to consider all your options, at all times, but I find going through such an interminable menu exhausting. So, I only examine what I consider to be reasonable options. And, when I refer to "all the options," it's a shorthand to refer to all the reasonable options.
I disagree when you say that Beyond has made a decision, and imply that that's the end of it. I think they've been exceptionally responsive to the community's feedback, and I consider myself part of that community.
I do suspect that you're trolling me by repeating your complaint about me repeating myself, but I would rather believe that you're a good person, here to have fun and engage in an enjoyable discussion about the game we both like on a platform we admire, and I'll leave it at that. ;) I appreciate your time and effort engaging with me, and I hope I don't frustrate you further, although I somehow fear I might. If that is the case, I encourage you to block me, as much as I dislike the idea.
I'm going to leave this as mostly settled, largely because I don't see a point in continuing it, but I will clarify that my response is out of your insistence on repeating the same line of questioning that multiple people have answered in similar ways across multiple conversation chains in this thread, and you kept asking them all the same. It was becoming very clear to me that you were fishing for something, but you weren't getting what you wanted, so you continued to push for it. You're right that I didn't need to respond, but I was trying to be helpful, and I felt I was being very clear in the way things work, even making a point to address an underlying concern that it didn't have extended value for that scenario, and trying to close out the fact by conceeding that D&D Beyond isn't going to work out for everyone. Curse has made their business decisions to create the Master tier, by offering some people options to share content with up to 36 other people for less than the cost of 2-3 books per year. If I were to make a guess, it would be because they're aware that not everyone can afford to buy everything, or even anything, and the solution works to help mitigate the cost to the players while bringing in additional revenue that they'd otherwise never see. The additional cost may not work for everyone, although it could easily be argued that you could ask the free players to chip in to the $55 only, as a means of offsetting your cost, and minimizing how much they have to pay. Or you can do it at the monthly rate, or whatever. Back to the point, they made that decision, and if that doesn't work for everyone, that's fine, but repeating the same question (which I will gladly point out that you've large strayed away from) was frustrating, especially when multiple people were offering reasonable answers for questions you kept repeating, looking for a specific answer, instead of inferring what you need from that. Hence my reaction. Since the issue has been largely settled, we can leave it all be. As I said, I just wanted to clarify my frustration.
I'm certainly slow on the pickup sometimes, and often need to review information in a variety of ways before I really understand it. I suspect others are the same. I'm guessing that's why repetition is an accepted rhetorical device.
I regret that I didn't take your concession that "D&D Beyond isn't going to work out for everyone" to mean very much (honestly, it felt dismissive...), and that I caused you to become frustrated. That is perhaps why you called me a troll. And you're right when you say that I can ask for others to give or lend me money or to pay for things for me. As I said above about other options, these exist, but aren't what I consider reasonable options. I would consider it broad-minded of you to consider all your options, at all times, but I find going through such an interminable menu exhausting. So, I only examine what I consider to be reasonable options. And, when I refer to "all the options," it's a shorthand to refer to all the reasonable options.
I disagree when you say that Beyond has made a decision, and imply that that's the end of it. I think they've been exceptionally responsive to the community's feedback, and I consider myself part of that community.
I do suspect that you're trolling me by repeating your complaint about me repeating myself, but I would rather believe that you're a good person, here to have fun and engage in an enjoyable discussion about the game we both like on a platform we admire, and I'll leave it at that. ;) I appreciate your time and effort engaging with me, and I hope I don't frustrate you further, although I somehow fear I might. If that is the case, I encourage you to block me, as much as I dislike the idea.
I wasn't trolling you, I promise. I just wanted to be very clear, as I deviated a few times, and I wanted to reiterate it. Other than that, we're all good, especially now that we understand each other a little better.
In a broader sense, D&D Beyond definitely benefits everyone, since you can share your information more effectively, and on a more consistent basis, not to mention that you don't need to have multiple copies of books floating around the table.
It's worth noting that this is true ONLY if someone in the group has a Master tier subscription. Otherwise, there appears to be NO sharing of unlocked content at all.
Yes. It's fair to say that. It's pretty much how it works. These features work well for some, and not as well for others. They're great tools, in my opinion, but they're not necessarily going to hold the same value up for every single person. Granted, that's why Curse has developed a metric ton of options for people, to find their right level of involvement, but it's not for everyone.
Except the only option, if you unlock content that you want to use as more than a private reference, is to get a Master tier subscription. And, let's face it, a lot of the options involve unlocking content. Your metric ton is quickly reduced to one option, in that case.
Not true. If you want it to be more than a private reference, you could pass your tablet around the table. as you would a real book. It is meant to be a resource used at the gametable after all. How about offering a suggestion to improve this. Every time Curse listens, responds and improves I see more negativity. If you don't like what is on offer there is no pressure to buy. We all want this to succeed.
If you want it to be more than a private reference, you could pass your tablet around the table. as you would a real book. It is meant to be a resource used at the gametable after all.
Okay, this makes it a semi-private reference, given the personal nature of such devices. And, as I said elsewhere, I'm not sure this has any real advantage over books, and certainly has some disadvantages over the books. This is a second use that might be reasonable, even though I personally don't consider it such. And, as I say above, when I say one option, I mean one reasonable option.
How about offering a suggestion to improve this. Every time Curse listens, responds and improves I see more negativity. If you don't like what is on offer there is no pressure to buy. We all want this to succeed.
I think the easy solution to be obvious: allow lower tiers to share some unlocked content. It could be as simple as Hero Tier gets to share stuff within one group, and maybe free subscribers with just two or three other subscribers. I apologize if I didn't type that out explicitly. The solution I did suggest was to bundle content with a (higher-priced) subscription, working around the WotC licensing terms by spreading the cost of the licenses over multiple years. The problem, to state it succinctly, is that a Master tier subscription is mandatory to make any substantial use of unlocked content, so it feels like a hidden fee. Both the above solutions would solve that.
I'm not sure how to avoid what you call negativity. I was trying my best to get a clear picture of what the state of affairs was, because I honestly thought that it made little sense for it to be this way, and that I must have misunderstood something. Then, when I was clear about it, I didn't understand how others don't see this as problematic. My slowness on the pickup, again, as I've said elsewhere, is probably a limitation that is intrinsic to me.
And while we're talking about this, I have to say that there's been a couple of accusations that I received in this conversation, which is fine (especially since one guy basically apologized afterwards), but are we really so thin-skinned that criticism is so unwelcome? I'm pretty supportive of Beyond overall, but that doesn't mean that I'm not going to point out a problem if I see one. If we all get to that point, I'm not sure how we'll survive, as a species.
"Any substantial use" is highly subjective. Some people just want to make their own characters and bring their sheet (or app) to the game. What if your DM doesn't use DDB? You can still use it yourself. I think that's a substantial use.
@BadEye Can you look into an option to use the Amazon prime twitch sub to pay for DnDBeyond sub hero or master?
It seems it would be beneficial to Twitch. While you could be sending those subs to streamers, you could instead exchange it for digital content access... essentialy saving the money that would be given as a sub.
I realize this would have effects on Twitch / DnDBeyond sub markets. Just an Idea I had, thanks.
It would be nice to see Amazon Prime / Twitch Prime grant something for D&D Beyond. :)
I don't know if there's sufficient commerical ability to deliver a full D&D Beyond subscription as part of the Prime programme, but I don't have access to the finance data.
That would really be nice if they could, I have Amazon Prime and would love to be able to use and control my subscription, etc. here through them with my others. Nice to have things all in one place. I even get my comixology for digital comics from amazon so do not see why they could not set something up like that here.
Content sharing is what makes the master tier so desirable. I couldn't see them diluting it into the hero, especially free, tiers. I would anticipate master tier players will become a hot commodity for campaigns in the months to come.
The problem, to state it succinctly, is that a Master tier subscription is mandatory to make any substantial use of unlocked content, so it feels like a hidden fee.
If the Master Tier is a hidden fee, it really and truly failed its Stealth check. Because it has been right out there from the first discussion of pricing.
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If the Master Tier is a hidden fee, it really and truly failed its Stealth check. Because it has been right out there from the first discussion of pricing.
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This might be an odd question but is it possible to transfer characters? As DM I've occasionally made characters for players who aren't familiar with the game or else I've had players leave a campaign but transferred the character to another active player. Would it be possible for me as a DM to Archive all characters that play in my games, copying them into my account for storage?
Reading through this thread, it looks like this is a “future enhancement” but I will throw it out there as at least a request/ Use Case Scenario to consider when developing. My son’s friends are just getting started in D&D and I am planning on going Legendary & Master Tier. My ideal situation would be to have a campaign where I can share all sourcebooks with everyone and share adventures with only 1 person (the one actually DMing). That would have me all set! (Well, that and adding in 3pp DMs Guild content *cough* pugilist *cough*, but I know that’s a big ask that will have to wait.) ;)
Just the ability to toggle each book as “everyone in campaign” or “DM only” would be great. For now, it sounds like it’s “trust the players not to peak at adventures” but I know some of my son’s friends. :)
Thanks! Can’t wait for the 15th!!
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"Any substantial use" is highly subjective. Some people just want to make their own characters and bring their sheet (or app) to the game. What if your DM doesn't use DDB? You can still use it yourself. I think that's a substantial use.
@BadEye Can you look into an option to use the Amazon prime twitch sub to pay for DnDBeyond sub hero or master?
It seems it would be beneficial to Twitch. While you could be sending those subs to streamers, you could instead exchange it for digital content access... essentialy saving the money that would be given as a sub.
I realize this would have effects on Twitch / DnDBeyond sub markets. Just an Idea I had, thanks.
It would be nice to see Amazon Prime / Twitch Prime grant something for D&D Beyond. :)
I don't know if there's sufficient commerical ability to deliver a full D&D Beyond subscription as part of the Prime programme, but I don't have access to the finance data.
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That would really be nice if they could, I have Amazon Prime and would love to be able to use and control my subscription, etc. here through them with my others. Nice to have things all in one place. I even get my comixology for digital comics from amazon so do not see why they could not set something up like that here.
Content sharing is what makes the master tier so desirable. I couldn't see them diluting it into the hero, especially free, tiers. I would anticipate master tier players will become a hot commodity for campaigns in the months to come.
We shall see, I suppose.
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