This setting looks very cool! I Just heard about the new crowdfund and was exploring the creator YouTube channel. I'll wait for the 2024 update or new version to drop here on DDB.
Calling everyone involved "scamming lowlifes." as if this is some kind of rug pull is pretty nasty not gonna lie, it's not like they've gone radio silent on all of their socials and shut down their discord or something, hell I don't even think 2024 content was promised in the product buy page, it just wasn't not promised and out side of that all of the other content provided work perfectly fine (I think I didn't check them all).
It's not on there anymore, but when it was released, the product page did promise 2024 compatibility. A lot of people (including me) bought the book expecting this compatibility and have been waiting to get what we were promised and paid for for a few months now. I agree that "scamming lowlifes" is a bit harsh, but after 3ish months, it's starting to feel like an empty promise.
According to the 1985 team, a 2024 update for DND beyond content is in the works. They're tentatively hoping for a fall release.
Do remember that the current content is still 2024 compatible, as all 2014 based content is. Compatible isn't the same as being built on the 2024 rule set.
Being truly compatible would, however, definitely include being able to use the Obojima subclasses with 2024 classes. If you can't do that in Beyond (although it would be pretty easy to do ourselves pencil and paper), then it's not compatible in practical terms.
Is there a reason why the Map of Obojima still has no MAP KEY provided in the book? Why do I have to go to REDDIT for something already paid for and seemingly cannot find anywhere easily online? Is there some kind of update to the missing content in the Digital Copy of this book?? Thanks in advance.
Don't know what else to tell you. Beyond has made it quite clear that all updates to the third-party sources (aside from bug fixes) have to come from the third-party devs. Beyond can't unilaterally update the materials to the other ruleset.
To add on to Athanar's pointLIt's not a mechanical matter:It's most likely a copyright, licensing & legal matter.
Hasbro doesn't own Obojima or any Partner's original content, as they learned during OGLgate. & they've clearly been going out of their way not to just buy or claim Partnered Content. Heck, they enforce other Partners' copyrights if public homebrew violates it.
They CAN take it. They just know it's not profitable as they learned during OGLgate.
So Beyond's programmers can't just snap their code editing fingers & implement 2024 Obojima.
There's legal hurdles, as well as the issue of demand, that need consideration.
I think we should demand from all parties involved for Obojima 2024 to be added as a freebie to those who paid for 2014, & paid otherwise.
The anti-2024 crowd will demand abstaining on behalf of 3PP, tho, on the grounds of OGLgate never being over(Despite almost all of the major ORC license partners(Green Ronin Press being the only one left) having posted Partnered Content on Beyond, Critical Role having not ditched Hasbro for Daggerheart, & a certain eyepatch-wearing ex-DMsGuild dev who was one of the main OGLgate poster children having lied about AI art usage & having used OGLgate to promote his own game while abstaining from making 3pp).
So it becomes a matter of "Is there enough demand & are the legal hurdles clear to jump, or is there enough anti-hype where we check for hype(Unfortunately, this means social media) talking this further collab down, & thus potential revenue is reduced for all by ongoing bad press?"
If Beyond tells us to talk to 1985, and 1985 tells us to talk to Beyond, then both are at fault and I am happy with neither. They advertised the Beyond version of the book as working fully with 2024 rules, which would logically include working fully with character creation and so forth on the site, not just at our tables (which we could probably figure out). So unless that's implemented before the end of the year, I fully intend to invoice them for a refund and ding their credit if it's not forthcoming.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
This setting looks very cool! I Just heard about the new crowdfund and was exploring the creator YouTube channel. I'll wait for the 2024 update or new version to drop here on DDB.
Being truly compatible would, however, definitely include being able to use the Obojima subclasses with 2024 classes. If you can't do that in Beyond (although it would be pretty easy to do ourselves pencil and paper), then it's not compatible in practical terms.
Is there a reason why the Map of Obojima still has no MAP KEY provided in the book? Why do I have to go to REDDIT for something already paid for and seemingly cannot find anywhere easily online? Is there some kind of update to the missing content in the Digital Copy of this book?? Thanks in advance.
Spells from obojima still aren't disponible with bard magical secrets
If Beyond tells us to talk to 1985, and 1985 tells us to talk to Beyond, then both are at fault and I am happy with neither. They advertised the Beyond version of the book as working fully with 2024 rules, which would logically include working fully with character creation and so forth on the site, not just at our tables (which we could probably figure out). So unless that's implemented before the end of the year, I fully intend to invoice them for a refund and ding their credit if it's not forthcoming.